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HeppyCat
hah
sinthetek
ok, fresh new gentoo install underway
gotta kill some time...
Freman
(Action) needss to go read up on gnap again, see what's changed...
Gurkan
(Action) needss Freman
Freman
if I get my way I'm going to need gnap so I can have my self distructing baby
Psych
hay Jo|nt
Jo|nT
hey
need some help to install gentoo
Freman
I've read your mind, no-one here can help you
Jo|nT
thx Freman
         

Freman
no seriously, how can you expect help, without saying where you're having a problem?
Jo|nT
I said I need help to see if anyone would have time and would want to help me..
traumahound
let microsoft knock on my door about a box that came without an operating system.
Freman
but without knowing the nature of the problem we don't know how much time it would take to help you
Jo|nT
The installer stops at the point it says "unpacking services"or something like this,and says install failed
Freman
ah, you're using the graphical installer
in which case I can't help you, never used it
Jo|nT
ok
traumahound
last i heard the gui was a bit flakey.
Jo|nT
thx guys,good nite
Psych
what a nice man
Freman
think I was hard on the fella?
Psych
knows
traumahound
wonder what kinda lawsuit is gonna be brought against M$ with all this "don't sell PCs without operating systems" crap?
Freman
hehe (C:
I've never bought a whole pc
traumahound
only once.
Freman
are they going to start selling me $600 hard disks with windows pre-installed?
traumahound
and the first thing i did was format the hd.
no, M$ wants to put people on the street checking into these boxes sold without operating systems.
they ever wanna see mine its gonna "come back with a warrant or court order"
Freman
they're not the ones you have to worry about anyway
most people who just buy old boxes without an os on them want linux machines
traumahound
but thats no excuse to microsoft.
Freman
people who build boxes on the other hand may want a high end windows gaming machine
         

traumahound
good luck finding that for a reasonable price and exactly what you want.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39261437,00.htm
"Supplying base systems, or 'naked PCs', is a missed opportunity, according to Michala Alexander, Microsoft's head of anti-piracy." that right there is all its about... it was sold without windows and they don't like that.
Psych
Wasn't expecting mirage_!
(Action) hides
ectospasm
blah
Psych
Hi yo~
I'm a doctor not a work.
ectospasm
Yeah, you're not a work, you're a piece of work Psych
HeppyCat
heh heh
Raptor
Autie: still there?
I ran into problems
HeppyCat
m$ has *never* liked that
Raptor
I'm getting permission denied upon reboot :/
HeppyCat
the naked pc bit
ectospasm
they're not really hinting that MS is going to "leverage the monopoly" in regards to naked PCs
Raptor
when I add this to /etc/conf.d/local.start
su hlds screen -A -m -S hlds /home/hlds/HLDSteam/hlds_run -game cstrike +mapchangecfgfile "server.cfg" +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 20 -insecure -nomaster
I get /usr/bin/screen: permission denied
upon reboot
anyone got a clue as to why?
ectospasm
What user is it being run as?
Raptor
hlds
thus the su hlds
as Autie pointed out earlier
HeppyCat
m$ says they will cease to give system builders vendor discounts if they sell 'naked' pcs
Raptor
[23:40:12] <Autie> Raptor: in /etc/conf.d/local.start : su user command
theBear
don't you want sudo not su ?
Raptor
I have no clue what sudo is?
theBear
super user do
Raptor
I don't have sudo
do I just emerge sudo ?
theBear
come to think of it, why are you trying to run counterstrike with screen ?
its a good idea... sudo is handy
ectospasm
HeppyCat: that's not how I read it...
Raptor
to see the output using putty from my other pc
theBear
oh..... errr... o.k...
Raptor
I have a screenless, keyboardless pc running gentoo
HeppyCat
that was the issue a couple years ago
same with vendors selling linux pcs
Raptor
so instead of su I do what?
sudo and the rest is unchanged?
theBear
i'd try sudo -u username command ...
Raptor
lemme emerge sudo first and see what -u does
theBear
it does username
oh... and your one is wrong too....
Raptor
how?
theBear
should be su -c COMMAND username
Raptor
well not my fault :)
ectospasm
HeppyCat: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=182285&cid=15067670
Raptor
I wrote it exactly how I was instructed to
sudo -u hlds screen -A -m -S hlds /home/hlds/HLDSteam/hlds_run -game cstrike +mapchangecfgfile "server.cfg" +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 20 -insecure -nomaster
does that look right to you?
theBear
also you could try using a path to specify screen... yeah... that looks ok
ectospasm
you should use the -c option to su...
Raptor
okay lemme reboot it and see what it does
brb
theBear
wait
test it by hand first
no use rebooting to type one line... get it working then test it with a reboot
ectospasm
good point
if he even has sudo... on a lot of systems it's not installed by default.
theBear
earlier he said he would emerge it
ectospasm
OK
Raptor
cannot open your terminal /dev/console - please check
that's what I'm getting
:/
theBear
oh.... maybe screen doesn't like being run without a controlling terminal...
Raptor
ok now what?
theBear
how about just using putty to ssh in each time you wanna play, then manually starting the server AND watching the output ?
Raptor
well
I want this server to be on 24/7
even if the power goes out, I want it to run on each startup
theBear
or running it without screen and with logging turned on, when you wanna monitor the output use tail -f /var/log/mylog
obviously it seems to be screen causing the problems...
Raptor
I wanna be able to use the server console
to change stuff
theBear
is it ONLY available on the console that started the server ?
HeppyCat
there isnt a 'server -console' switch to connect to a running server?
Raptor
I have no clue
you really shouldn't be asking me questions, I'm the basic definition of a n00b :)
theBear
then check it out... there's gotta be a more sensible way than what your trying to do....
Raptor
if that were an option I'm sure I would have read about it
but basically everyone uses screen
:/
ectospasm
Are you just trying to read stderr and stdout?
Raptor
no
I'm trying to interact with a running server
sudo -u hlds screen -A -m -d -S hlds /home/hlds/HLDSteam/hlds_run -game cstrike +mapchangecfgfile "server.cfg" +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 20 -insecure -nomaster
that does NOTHING
I have no clue why
running it as root
I get no messages but it starts nothing
theBear
you sure it starts nothing ?
Raptor
yes
ps -al shows just ps
theBear
what about aux
or ax
Raptor
what doest hat do? :D
ectospasm
or ps waux
theBear
shows more stuff
ectospasm
You'll need to pipe it through grep...
Raptor
nope
no trace of screen
ectospasm
do something like "ps waux | grep screen"
Raptor
or hlds for that matter
theBear
hmmm.....
Raptor
hlds@raptor2 ~ $ ps waux | grep screen
hlds 7077 0.0 0.1 1516 476 pts/1 S+ 23:57 0:00 grep --color=auto screen
hlds@raptor2 ~ $
ectospasm
Take out the -d option to screen, that applies only if there's a running screen
Raptor
can someone translate that?
it's ignored if there's no other screen
I just read the man on it
I tried w/o it
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