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dbtid
can anyone tell me about celeron M, and how it differs from other M processors?
malfunc
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malfunc
thanks
tiocsti
there is no celeron m
i assume you mean centrino, not celeron
dbtid
there is on intel's page
tiocsti
centrino pentium m
dbtid
it compares a celeron M vs petium M
         

tiocsti
oh, hmm, maybe it's new
dbtid
and from what i've been told, centrino == chip + wireless both from intel
it's a "package" not a CPU
i'm looking at buying a dell laptop w/ part of my refund
but i don't want to spend arm + leg
tiocsti
yeah centrino is a branding of various mobile technologies
pentium m is basically a p3 on crack
dbtid
not a p4?
tiocsti
no, p4 is horrible
dbtid
really?
tiocsti
p3 is a much better architecture
clock for clock, a p3 is 50% faster than a p4
dbtid
isn't the celeron a pentium 4 w/ less cache?
tiocsti
it looks like half the l2 or so
dbtid
yeah
tiocsti
for the celeron m
dbtid
this one is a celeron m w/ 1MB l2 cache
well, 1MB cache is what it says
it's $500 w/ 1/2GB ram and a wireless card, and 40GB HD
do you know what "celeron m processor 370" is vs a "360?"
for $100 more do i want the pentium m processor 735?
or wouldn't it matter?
tiocsti
ok theres 2 differences
L2 cache (about half)
dbtid
i saw 2 on their page
yea
tiocsti
and speedstep isnt functional
dbtid
and the FSB is lower
only 400MHz on the celeron
speedstep is?
power saving?
tiocsti
speedstep might be a big deal if you are gonna use it on battery power a lot
yeah power saving, bumps processor speed down when it's idle
or when it's not being heavily used
dbtid
not worried about that
hard to beat this for the price
tiocsti
so it comes down to cache then
dbtid
seems to
2MB vs 1MB for $100 more, and +.2GHz in clock
BOTH have a 400MHz FSB
         

tiocsti
id go for centrino if its only 100$ more
dbtid
you mean the pentium m?
tiocsti
yeah
dbtid
because it will save battery?
tiocsti
(celeron isnt centrino branded, i dont believe)
no, because it'll be faster
dbtid
well this doesn't say centrino b/c it has dell wireless
tiocsti
ill pay 100$ for twice the cache
dbtid
i guess that makes sense
if i could find a comparable machine cheaper i'd look at it; but i can't
and they're doing free shipping
tiocsti
of course, if i was in the market for a new laptop i already know what i'd get
dbtid
for $500 or $600 ?
i'm not going nuts with this
it's for ease of use and entertainment
tiocsti
i used to buy laptops for that purpose
dbtid
i'll write code on it but not all the time
tiocsti
but i dont anymore
i find the price/performance/durability isnt worth it
dbtid
ease of use meaning i don't have to run upstairs everytime i want to do something on a PC :)
tiocsti
so if i really need to travel with a laptop, i'll buy a good laptop, but right now i dont see me getting a laptop anytime soon
err another laptop, i have 2
well 1, i sold one this morning
dbtid
lol
tiocsti
id prob buy a macbook if i was in the laptop market, but you cant get one for 500-600$
i sold my powerbook, ill use funds to buy g4 mini & to renew my ida license
dbtid
i don't want the expense of a mac
you can't touch one for $500 or $600
tiocsti
you can get a mini for that
dbtid
and when i do development it will be for windows
i can't put a mini in my car
tiocsti
see i only have a windows box so i can test code for portability sake
i dont really do any windows development
actually you can put a mini in your car
dbtid
they don't have monitors
tiocsti
correct
dbtid
i'll probably get the bigger one then
tiocsti
im getting a mini just so i can maintain a ppc dev box
i might sell my thinkpad too, and get a desktop
dbtid
sounds fun
gateway doesn't even come close
tiocsti
what id like
as a laptop
dbtid
although i might be able to find a discount
tiocsti
is something with very little local storage
and has like a basic unix install
with ssh and firefox
dbtid
yeah
tiocsti
in memory, and thats it
super lightweight client
ideally, no moving parts
but nobody would build such a thing
there'd be no money in it
you'd have to be fu*king insane to think someone is going to deploy something like that on a wide scale
sun was that crazy
but nobody else is
and look how many javastations you see deployed in the enterprise
if sun loses their mind some more and decides to make a laptop version of the sunray
id prob buy it
dbtid
lol
well, time to head home
bbl
thanks for your input
tiocsti
it is that time!
Ever|asT
nicos i need a webshell
tiocsti too!
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Funny.
dbtid
howdy
_exe
:_)
How are you dbtid?
Morn.
Ashe`
Ahoy
_exe
How are you doing, sir Ashe?
Ashe`
Goed goed, just bought a house
You?
_exe
I'm ok.
Where is the new house?
Ashe`
Not far from here
It's my grandparents' house
_exe
Nice
How much did it cost?
Ashe`
Dumbass wifi, why doesn't it work when you're 2 kilometers away from home
Yeah so how much, 225 000 euros
Houses are cheap in here
_exe
"cheap".
Ashe`
12 rooms in the "main house" + big land + 2 workshops + 1 room where they used to organize parties for 100+ people
So yeah, cheap
_exe
12 rooms? :_O
Ashe`
I don't mean bedrooms
Just any room
kitchen, living room, etc
_exe
Ahh.
How many bedrooms?
Ashe`
Ah no 13 actually
Forgot one
3
Doesn't really matter anyway, I'll probably never live there
_exe
So? Why did you buy it?
Ashe`
Cause its price will increase
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