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Tregarious
anyone know good places to get shells?
wgreenhouse
Tregarious: the beach
Tregarious
wgreenhouse, i knew somebody was gonna say that :-P
xshellz seems okay for IRC Undernet blocks it but it works for other networks
wgreenhouse
so you're specifically looking for shells to IRC from?
Tregarious
wgreenhouse, nah not necessarily but it's nice if they can do that too
wgreenhouse
Tregarious: perhaps http://torvps7kzis5ujfz.onion/index.php/FAQ
they may or may not be idiots or sleazeballs, I offer no endorsement
otherwise I'd just use one of the old standbys like sdf.org or panix.com
Tregarious
wgreenhouse, thanks! sdf is useless unless you're paying these days. Haven't been to panix I'll check that out
wgreenhouse
panix is pay-to-play too, I'm pretty sure
there's free ones and there's ones that actually function, unfortunately
unless there's a third option like your friend's/uni's/whatever's server
Tregarious
xshellz does pretty good... you have to keep going in their freenode channel and tell their bot to let you keep the account but yeah it's a functioning free shell
         

cacahuatl
Totally off-topic for tor however
Tregarious
cacahuatl, my bad
cacahuatl
And repeatedly coming back and asking the same question that's clearly not related seems dishonest.
Tregarious
cacahuatl, I've asked that before?
srg
Hi all. I'm a bit curious about my relay. It's not new, and it's on a high speed pipe, but it's running very slowly.
I run another relay on another host with an almost identical config, and it's very fast
the host knows I run a relay and their TOS doesn't say anything about limiting bandwidth or anything like that.
It's been running since february
cacahuatl
Could be related to bwauth stuff. Care to share the fingerprint?
srg
Traffic graphs: http://gaia.guglielmo.us/
fingerprint: FB5FF60F5EBA010F8A45AC6ED31A4393718A2C31
It's on a 10 gig pipe. BandwidthRate is set to "275 MBits" (the host requested it doesn't go over 300 mbit)
unlimited monthly traffic
cacahuatl
it's got quite low measured bandwidth
srg
there was a recent period of downtime, and I thought that would affect it. but it hasn't sped up yet
cacahuatl
it could be related to it's geolocation :/
srg
ah :-\
You think I should try to relocate it elsewhere?
cacahuatl
It's how high advertised bandwidth, but the actual bandwidth calculation that's given to it in the consensus depends on it being measured by the bwauths
if it's hard to build a circuit to Singapore, eg, a lot of the routes to it suck, then the bwauths can only measure how good it is from their perspective
tbiou
is there any trick i could use to somehow optimize/speedup torbrowser which is working slowly on an old computer with few ram ?
cacahuatl
even if it's got the network capacity to shift more, and may even be visibly better from other parts of the network
tbiou
(hello)
srg
cacahuatl: hm, alright. I'll relocate it and see how it goes
cacahuatl
it looks like it is being measured, there were problems for a while with some new relays never getting measured and being assigned a sort of 'default' weight, that doesn't seem to be the case here :/
srg
(Action) loves cloud-based VPSs...can snapshot and relocate it within an hour
ah
yeah, i did see that on the tor-relays mailing list
cacahuatl
geodiversity is good but the bwauths sort of get a skewed perception of the network in that sense :P
tbiou
to be clear: i'm talking about the browser itself, not tor
         

cacahuatl
tbiou: Not really, use the security slider to maybe disable some features, turn off javascript and visit simple websites.
tbiou
okay thanks
lol @ "visit simple websites" ;p
cacahuatl
Well if the website gives you a lot of flashy content to render then it's going to have an impact on the browsers required resources, regardless of the browser.
srg
cacahuatl or anyone else: what would be a good geolocation? NYC, San Fran, London, Amsterdam, Singapore?
Singapore was slow. I'm not sure if any particular one would help or is needed for to support the health of the network
Or germany
cacahuatl
It's probably not slow
It's just not being fairly measured :P
srg
ah, I mispoke
cacahuatl
All the bwauths are in Europe or America, as I understand it, which is sub-optimal :(
I mean, if you want to know the best choice, figure out the AS for each of the locations and pick the one with the least current relays running in it.
srg
good advice! thanks
cacahuatl
it's probably Singapore, but you're likely to be underutilised :(
tbiou
so, singapore might be a good choice for running bridge ?
i was also wondering where to eventually run a node
srg
I probably shouldn't even run ssh on my nodes
I should just use my hosts kvm console
(Action) does that
woosa
srg: u can run ssh on the hidden service and lock the port so only ur tor client can access it
kernelcorn
you should also have SSH on something other than 22. Pick some number above 10,000
woosa
fusebox
using HiddenServiceAuthorizeClient -- this is almost a mantra for me now, and as woosa said (I think) you could only accept ssh on localhost
srg
kernelcorn: that reduces security. A daemon needs root access to listen on ports < 1024
Any process, including unprivledged, can listen on > 1024
But I agree, it does help clean up logs from scriptkiddies trying to bruteforce port 22
fusebox
on non HS+SSH I was getting regular hits from skids above 1024
maybe people just hate me
but yes, even more so below, esp' 22
a1
Hi all. Would installing the cryptical add on in Tor Browser be a good idea? Just wondering that because the Tor project doesn't recommend installing add ons.
virus
can any kind souls send an invite to #nottor by any chance logged back in today and all the sudden you need an invite to join
thanks
sailor
is there any way to get just the firefox part of the tor browser running strippin the connection part?
kernelcorn
yes, just turn off Tor Button I suppose
cacahuatl
Er, there are better ways if you're on *NIX
kernelcorn
and you may need to go into the browser preferences and find the place where it uses the Tor proxy
sailor
ok will try that ty
cacahuatl
TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH=1;TOR_TRANSPROXY=1;./start-tor-browser
That'll stop tor launcher from running tor and tell tor button that tor transproxy is being applied upstream (it won't use a proxy)
kernelcorn
sweet, good to know
sailor
sweet indeed thanx
cacahuatl
it's less destructive that ripping out extensions, which actually do things to help protect the browser
I don't advocate it, just harm reduction :P
oftc-webi
We've been discussing locating plaintiffs to bring suit on the issue of Brad Spengler of GRSecurity once he closes his derivative work (with some new discussions):
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/09/07/040206 http://pipedot.org/pipe/KPRX
http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/tech/res/346860.html http://pipedot.org/pipe/K33M
If you've not been taught the law, don't try to debate the legal merits of the case and show yourself to be a lay fool, please.
kernelcorn
did anyone know that there is an invite-only #tor channel on IRCnet?
greg
We've been discussing locating plaintiffs to bring suit on the issue of Brad Spengler of GRSecurity once he closes his derivative work (with some new discussions):
https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/09/07/040206 http://pipedot.org/pipe/KPRX
http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/tech/res/346860.html http://pipedot.org/pipe/K33M
If you've not been taught the law, don't try to debate the legal merits of the case and show yourself to be a lay fool, please.
mancha
Sanity check, in TBB, tabs can see other tabs' cookies, yah?L
cacahuatl
Right, well cookies aren't per-tab
but yes, they share a common cookie-jar
mancha
so if you want to ensure site A never knows you're at site B (and vicey versey), you don't open them in 2 tabs in the same instance.
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