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bilber
Is there a way to make tor exit from a specific server?
srg
"ExitNodes" in torrc.
bilber
thank you
srg
bilber: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-manual.html.en#ExitNodes
irreverant
i have a couple questions regarding TOR.
When it comes to the internet i've been on it since 94 93 - i started as phone phreaker and got into skateobards and pu**y.
so computers kinda went out of sight out of mind, but i'm coming back into it and would like to know if you guys have any useful links for tor information
i can google but it's always either news articles about hackers or some other crap
cacahuatl
https://torproject.org/
irreverant
One specific question is when you come out of a node, does it change your ip?
i did a check network settings on my tor browser and it shows me an IP that isn't mine.
thorazine
irreverant: do you know what a proxy is?
irreverant
sure
so basically it proxies my connection?
         

thorazine
tor is, at least as far as TBB is concerned, a randomized multilayer proxy
irreverant
ok.
because of this nature, is that why my connection on it appears to be slowed down?
TBB?
thorazine
by running your traffic through tor, rather than contacting the destination directly, it is generally slowed down
ryonaloli_
it's slow both because the network has a high load, and because there is a high latency (it often goes through long-range, high latency satalite or undersea cable)
thorazine
tor bounces your traffic around the tor network a few times before it reaches the destination
irrevverant_
so that I don't have to use a tor client but rather have my downstream
sorry got bumped by my crap isp
be able to use tor from the upstream appliance?
lets say using an asa 5510 with an update fimrware version? or modified version?
thorazine
huh?
you mean, a transparent tor gateway?
irrevverant_
yeah
thorazine
yeah there are directions online for that
irrevverant_
sounds like that' what i would want.
thorazine
google for "tor gateway"
cacahuatl
I don't see why you'd want to use tor upstream, you'd lose the end-to-end nature of the cryptography.
irrevverant_
realy?
thorazine
cacahuatl: for some situations it makes sense, such as putting a hidden service behind a tor gateway
devilspgd
Just be aware that it *will* make you identifiable to sites that care.
cacahuatl
No it doesn't make sense in those situations.
thorazine
cacahuatl: that way a compromised hidden service can't leak its IP
devilspgd
But if you just want to access hidden services, or have protection against local-WAN snooping, it will work.
cacahuatl
Putting it behind a restricted connection makes sense, if you put a hidden service behind an upstream tor proxy it'll do tor over tor, which is stupid.
devilspgd
But if a site you visit wants to identify you, it can and will.
         

thorazine
i'm assuming you use a 10.x.x.x (or similar) address behind the tor gateway, and all traffic is funneled over tor
cacahuatl: you can have the upstream tor serve 10.x.x.x (rather than localhost) as the hidden service
cacahuatl
It's a bad idea.
irrevverant_
why?
i was thinking exatly what thorazine was talking about.
thorazine
the alternative is relying on firewall rules to enforce all outbound traffic going over tor
devilspgd
So for some purposes, it's just fine, if you understand the risks and limitations of this approach. The Tor browser is hardened in ways you can't replicate with a network level proxy solution, so don't expect all the benefits of Tor.
thorazine
devilspgd: i'm specifically talking about hidden services, not browsing
cacahuatl
How do you intend to force traffic over Tor? Firewall rules, right. So it's the same except if you just deny you will leak *less*
devilspgd
But not everyone needs all of the benefits of Tor... I just care about hidden services, and I don't care if they can identify me, so for my purposes, it would be just fine.
cacahuatl
Use tor2web
deadminons
how does tor prevent your mom from knowing you watch porn?
thorazine
cacahuatl: i am thinking mostly from a separation-of-services perspective, e.g. the machine running the hidden service should not know anything about the external world and not be able to reach it at all other than as proxied via tor
devilspgd
deadminons: It doesn't if you forget to turn the speakers down. Uhhh, uhhh, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
irrevverant_
tor really aint tht good for porn
cacahuatl
Not really interested in debating it, thorazine.
thorazine
cacahuatl: well can you link me to some info as to why running tor locally is better than a gateway in the case of a hidden service?
probably interesting material
deadminons
how do i hide my porn addiction?
irrevverant_
don't have one?
devilspgd
deadminons: You don't. Do or do not, but if you do, be proud.
deadminons
my mom found a sock...
irrevverant_
i don't want to kno w more.
you made a fifi?
thorazine
deadminons: transfer your addiction to an unusual fetish, like a fetish for expensive suits
deadminons: then just google for politics news all the time
deadminons
if i don't flap i walk around with a bonner
its... humilating
does anyone know how to download torrents?
irrevverant_
than'ks for the help guys with the tor stuff
deadminons
is donald trump really a jew? is there in information about this on the deepweb
can some one tell me a good exit point for tor?
cacahuatl
It'll select one for you automatically.
deadminons
but what if i want to be in a better country?
srg
deadminons: define "better"
deadminons
is there any exit points on the international space station?
srg
(Action) writes you off as a troll and moves on.
deadminons
is it possible to increase the lag?
to stop timing attacks
qwerty1
these are actually more fun that the serious ones
than
i think those mostly go elsewhere now
irc doesn't have the same nice interface for canned responses
well there is the bot
kernelcorn
if you are trying to defend against timing attacks, Tor is not the tool for you. You need a mixnet.
And there are more researchers writing about mixnets than there are mixnet users.
cacahuatl
*high latency mixnet
also there may be some advantages to limiting client bandwidth
deadminons
im concerned that the fbi is tracking me
is there any organization doing counter intelligences on the fbi?
srg
deadminons: then get off the internet. only way to be sure.
deadminons
privacy it the real issue to day.
Spinnaker
hi, I got 2 questions.
deadminons
if the method used to track people today where available to the king of england then there would not have been a American revolution
spinnaker: i can handle your questions
Spinnaker
1) I run a relay for 20 days not it's flaged: Fast, Running, Stable, Valid did I have something to do in orderto become Guard ?
thx deadminons, I appreciate it
deadminons
nope
cacahuatl
!lifecycle
dpkg
Please read Roger's blog post on the lifecycle of Tor relays - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/lifecycle-of-a-new-relay
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