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kernelcorn
lol
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Guest2249 do you seek anything of relation to Tor?
Guest2249
Of course I am speaking about how to morally use tor.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Morallity is not defined by the tools but rather by the application of those tools
Guest2249
"The technology is morally neutrol since we use it"
neutral
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
I use Tor to mask my metadata from the all seeing eye. Allowing the all seeing eye of 5 eyes to continue information dominance you are placing the powers of the world centrallized into hands of corrupt.
Guest2249
And at last but not least how to purpose this project to sample internet user who do not see more longer than a sample windows usage?
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Windows is the downfall of technology and human intelligence. No offense intended, only wisdom.
Use linux unix OS based
Guest2249
I can only agree with that.
         

V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
I am on command line interface. CLI superrior to GUI.
kernelcorn
ah, the Richard Stallman approach to browsing the web
Guest2249
I use already linux but how to share my project if I do not want my vict... clients will be seen?
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
I love lynx browser
Guest2249 what is it you seek to do?
Your agenda is not yet clear to my understanding
If I understand your doing you seek, I can better assist with wisdom to your inquirty
inquiry
Guest2249
I want to make a human free service to use Tor to share ideas with no consequences for the politic life of the client.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
So kind of like a anonymous blog?
Or a system ran by bots to spread ideals and ideas?
kernelcorn
you may be interested in SecureDrop
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
reddit is open source. Why not use reddit source code from github behind hidden service?
Guest2249
More or less I want to help persons to anonymously give their ideas but how to contact them?
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Where they located?
Guest2249
On the clearnet blog but using Tor to protect the anonymisation.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
If know location, mail copies of TAILS with instructions how to use, with listings of bridges to circumvent censorship and blocking of Tor.
bfgdgd
w00t!
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Operation Burn Down Great Firewall Of China
bfgdgd
actually the onion server i was talking about works... it just needs some options tweaking
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
What tweaking do you need?
Guest2249
Yes but even using Tails entierely take one year to understand and pratice if we are not passionated in informatic.
I want to do it for other people.
But if I do not know them I do not know how to do it.
whitanne
lol mailing copies of tails
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
So to reach out to people you do not know or know how to reach?
Guest2249
Yes.
         

V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
mailing copies of TAILS with directions and ip addresses of brdiges to random addresses in China
bfgdgd
to set SSL enabled, hexchat doesn't do that automatically
SASL is not even required... apparently.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
and offer hidden service to blog for Chinease people to freely spread info and speak
idea i always had
Just bombard China land with unstoppable flood of TAILS mailings muhahahahaaa
whitanne
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3: or they coulod purchase a USB and install Tails on it?
Guest2249
Not for China just people like Canadian or european who do not want to be criticked for their opinion.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Freedom Grams, with unique bridges and hidden service for China land people to communicate and speak freely and access to info
Guest2249
Muahahah!
But to do it myself I need to contact them.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Guest2249 people can already be anonymous if they such choose. Anyone can download Tor software from the inter-tubes
Guest2249
How to contact them if they have not any anonimisation tool?
Yes but is it hard :(
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Mail, or spreading education on how to use anon tools on plain internet
Muhahahaaaa! ohh yess!
Guest2249
Nice idea.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Just anonymously outreach on plain internet where you can reach civillians to teach how to be uber anon
wgreenhouse
DIY 'zines distributed by classic irl methods can also be useful
Guest2249
Ok. :(
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Or perhaps I do not fully understand your intent? If describe agenda we can better assist
Guest2249
:) I have never ever done agenda.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
Just take QR Code with catchy phrase such as "Be the resistance" so when people scan the QR code from being curious they are brought to site with guides on being anonymous
QR code stickers with catchy phrase, and stick everywhere. When people scan QR code they are delivered to a website with guides on how to be anonymous and resist powers j
Guest2249
I do not want to teach them I just want to make i for them.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
QR Codes with catchy phrase on stickers that you plant everywhere. That deliver to a website they can use. If want them to be anon the site can direct them to download Tor then to access hidden service
People see stickers everywhere with QR Codes with phrase "you are resistance!" they scan QR code
and delivered to site they can use.
if they want option of being true anonymous they can be directed to download Tor and use the hidden service
Here is plausible deniability because they can just say "I did not know what QR code was, was not my will to go to that site" if they ever questioned on why they visited the plain internet site
This sort of what you are looking for?
Guest2249
It might be a good idea because they do not need to be really anonymous (just anonymous against population and political opposants) but I do not like this idea because I would prefer being anonymous cleanely and target use seen on internet.
I would love see the face of people who have never ever learn about tor read this message for the first time.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
What message would that be?
"All restistance are belong to you!"
I like that message
Guest2249
Not enought theatral.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
"All restistance are belong to you!" Right above the QR Codes, stickers that people can distribute everywhere
thetral?
Guest2249
Yes.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
what is thetral mean?
Guest2249
Theatrical.
V3RY_ERR0NEOUS_N1CKN4m3
"All restistance are belong to you!" is very theatrical
Maybe if what more theatre have animation of dancing kitten
Or sheep being led to slaughter.
MUhahahaaa
sheep being led to slaughter by wolves, with sheep dog saying "All resistance are belong to you!"
Then the sheep eat the wolves
Would make great animation,
Then the sheep vomit wolf guts
w4r10ck25
an interesting onion site?
gwen
Search Engine, DuckDuckGo. http://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion
why does not Tor Project offer hidden service for torproject.org?
w4r10ck25
i do not know
TvdW
because by the time you've got Tor running, why would you want to go there?
gwen
to obtain sources?
(packages)
w4r10ck25
I'm searching for books
does anyone know where can i find books?
gwen
library, book shops, etc.
w4r10ck25
ebooks I mean
for free
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