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stormtropa
can you increase your number of tor hops? What are the implications of that?
TvdW
well, since the middle node can count hops, you'll basically stand out :)
stormtropa
TvdW: how save is tor really?
safe*
or, I know that there are plenty of article I can read about that, don't bother
TvdW
tor is safe.
the only catch is that you can't really make any changes or it's no longer safe :)
Zionv
Hello.
Connection to a local address are denied since it might be a TCP DNS query to a local DNS server. Rejecting it for safety reasons. (in tsocks_connect() at connect.c:177)
Anyone know how to fix that error?
kvm234
can you give more details about your setup and what is giving the error?
TvdW
yes, stop doing localhost requests :)
stormtropa
Zionv: you can't tell the exit node to do connect to a local DNS server.
Zionv
kvm234: Well, I tried it with torsocks-2.0.0, as well as tor-1.2, and they give similar errors.
Although, I can connect to 127.0.0.1 with torify; although, even the new torify gives those annoying res_send errors, which was the whole reason I was updating.
         

cacahuatl
It's not researching Tor, it's being blocked by torsocks.
stormtropa
Zionv: what are you coding in? Is this some c-library or something?
Zionv
stormtropa: I am not coding at all.
stormtropa
ok nvm
Zionv
This is an error the torsocks wrapper gives.
When trying to connect to 127.0.0.1.
cacahuatl
"yes, stop doing localhost requests :)"
*reaching
Zionv
I would prefer to be able to continue to do localhost requests.
kvm234
when you say "connect to 127.0.0.1", do you mean you are able to connect via Tor? In other works go through a tor circuit, through the exit node and back to 127.0.0.1?
Zionv
kvm234: No.
I just want it to be able to connect to localhost, treating as it would if not using torsocks at all.
I connect to 127.0.0.1 in my IRC client, which I torify for other networks.
Wooshie
if I use torsocks, I generally dont want ANYTHING treated 'as if not using torsocks at all'
Zionv
Also, it seems the newer torsocks does not work with Irssi, so I think I will just use the older one; although, the older one actually does not have the res_send error anyways, but it does disallow connections to 127.0.0.1.
kvm234
Ok. I guess it is important where Torsocks is installed in your case...how about a different machine and just pass all traffic through that?
Wooshie
if you want it to behave as if not using torsocks at all... Don't use Torsocks at all?
Zionv
Wooshie: I want it to behave that way for 127.0.0.1 only.
fusebox
the perhaps you could try relaying with socat instead
Wooshie
Zionv so don't use torsocks for 127.0.0.1 only?
fusebox
set a relay with socks4a to the server you want to connect to via Tor, connect irssi to that
Zionv
fusebox: I connect to way more servers over Tor, than the one I connect to at 127.0.0.1.
So, using socat to _not_ connect to Tor in that case would make more sense than using it for every server.
Wooshie
Zionv can you not make a simple bash script? if destination != 127.0.0.1 use TorSocks else use TorSocks
Zionv
Wooshie: I think it would be a little more complicated than that. And, really, there should be a way to change the way it acts for 127.0.0.1 in the config.
Or if not, I was hoping there might be a patch.
         

ecoob
Zionv: i'd suggest you to switch to weechat which is more modular than irssi about proxy settings
except you have no choice
except *if* you have no choice (about your irc client)
Zionv
I might as well just connect to the hidden service instead of localhost.
korick
WWW.EXPOSINGCOMMUNISM.COM
ahmatrige
hey guys. can you advise the best way how to buy bitcoins anonymously in US, without phone and ID?
L
localbitcoins or an atm
ahmatrige
L. thanks. I've never bought via ATM, does it ask a phone number?
L
i don't think you'll really be able to find any but no
Googler
Yo
11001
oftc-webi
http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/tech/res/346860.html#356457
><nick12345> Could you set a monthly donation goal to a large amount of money that when reached the current stable sources get released?
><strcat> email brad and ask, but I'm pretty sure he's pissed enough at the companies violating the trademark and/or license that it's not a clear cut thing
><strcat> i.e. it's not about money
IE: Even if plebs like us ponied up money, we still won't get the source patch. IE: the applied affect IS the intended effect: the general public no longer gets grsecurity.
jackbauer
hi
agorecki
Why is #nottor invite only?
Peng
agorecki: It happens sometimes during periods of high abuse.
agorecki
Peng> k
is there any way to knock the channel to tell someone to let me in?
jackbauer
agorecki, it is not
agorecki
velope, Lucky, cat-xeger: invite plz if you're around
chanserv provided an access list :P
regind
Not much talking for 502 people?
agorecki
:)
Peng
Naturally. Tor is intuitive, bug-free and has perfect documentation.
pioyue
I was thinking about running tor on my server to route IRC traffic through it. Does the tor service chew up a lot of resources relative to a bittorrent daemon and media server software?
agorecki
probably not
it's pretty light on resources afaict
pioyue
agorecki could you think if any reason I would shy away from having tor running all the time?
velope
yes, especially if you mean for just your own personal irc traffic
agorecki
I had it running all the time on my system without any problems, but I wasn't running a server. it was only for my own personal use
velope
it's fine to leave all the time, when there are no new connections for a long time, it will ramp down activity
pioyue
velope you're saying I shouldn't do this?
It would be running with znc so there would always be something connected through it
velope
"new connections"
pioyue
Oh right
nickname4
#tor-dev seems a lot smaller than this channel... is it only for developer discussion, and i should ask tor development related questions here if i am not an official dev?
velope
#tor-dev is a working channel for people contributing code to tor
this channel is for people using tor, including people programming things for use with tor
nickname4
i would like to contribute code, specifically to improving sandbox.c and some of the TODOs/FIXMEs in sandbox.c
would that question belong in here or #tor-dev? i can submit any changes i make but i am not an official dev.
velope
there is not much of an "official", except for a few paid people
nickname4
ok, so if it's related to the tor source code itself, i should ask in the dev channel?
velope
and yes, sounds like #tor-dev, but you need to be prepared to be very patient, and do most investigation and experiments on your own
nickname4
ok, thank you.
velope
one of the lead developers pretty much works a standard business week, another is away from irc these days
see the website Doc page, the Up to Speed section, HACKING notes, etc.
nickname4
i will, thank you.
]V[
http://it.slashdot.org/story/15/09/02/0010231/turkey-arrests-journalists-for-using-encryption
i wonder if the encryption system mentioned was Tor ?
pigster
Why does joining #nottor require an invitation now?
robbigo
Not many people talking...
Is no one taking in any room because of me or just because no one is talking?
velope
it's all about you
undercover__
velope:
Raiz
why #nottor is invite-only?
velope
because yesterday was a nearly nonstop sh*tfest
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