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velope
psilonux: fix your client to not be constantly reconnecting, or it will be temporarily banned until you do.
megadeth
Hello
Why TOR is very slow to connect with the server
Can anyone help me with that?
velope
:-D
whitanne
lol
Antalas
Hello
When using orbot I only get to 25% bootstrapping
What could be causing this?
Sebastian
Antalas: maybe an older version of Tor
Antalas
I downloaded orbot from the guardian project's latest link
cacahuatl
Does your connection work without Tor and is the time on your phone correct?
Sebastian
it could also be a block of the dirauths
         

cacahuatl
You could try using a bridge to get around a block like that.
Antalas
It's the same with a bridge
And the check page loads
But tor isn't working
Oh and when I enable transparent proxying connections will timeout, cacahuati, Sebastian
The app has super user privilege btw
cacahuatl
if it's not finishing the bootstrap process then that will happen, do you have an accurate date and time on the device?
Antalas
Yes
Actually I don't
I feel like an idiot
cacahuatl
update it and give it another go
Antalas
I changed the time
It still is stuck on 25%
How long should I wait?
Cacahuati, it now passed 25%
Thank you guys
elvis
hello. im using znc but i still can t hide or change my host name on irc
any help ?
velope
tell us how your question is about tor
elvis
velope: you can help ?
velope
don't repeat your question in multiple channels, unless you direct replies to a single channel
--> #nottor
felis
good day everyone. would running a recursive dns server add any benefit to the relay im running?
pakcjo
hello, anyone running tor in openwrt?
ryonaloli_
i have run tor in openwrt before
pakcjo
ryonaloli_: was it easy to compile? I'm planning of doing so... (currently downloading the openwrt buildroot)
ryonaloli_
i didn't compile it, i installed it with opkg
cacahuatl
felis: It can do but be careful what you log. If it's not an exit though, it's not really doing to be doing a lot of DNS lookups.
ryonaloli_
but tor is easy enough to compile if you want to do so
cacahuatl: i'm pretty sure openwrt doesn't log dns requests by default
felis
cacahuatl: it's an exit as well
cacahuatl: and i try to keep logs as little as possible
so basically, there is some benefits to it eh?
cacahuatl
there was a thread about it recently on the tor-relays mailinglist, it might be worth doing a search for that to see some of the pros, cons and gotchas.
it's good to not centralise information, if all the exits used google's public DNS, for example, then google would see a lot of information about where Tor users were going and when.
felis
im sub to the list, but cacnt seem to find it now
         

wgreenhouse
also you could bolt on dnssec validation to your recursive resolver
and even have that forward its requests, via tcp dns, over tor :)
I think isis documented that setup a bit
https://github.com/isislovecruft/scripts/blob/master/dnswithtor
not sure if that would be suitable for an exit but it's interesting
felis
looks like it's more for the client
cacahuatl
felis
oooh neatt
cacahuatl
it's come up a few other times aswell, it's probably worth looking further back too in the archives.
red_rev
Who is up?
ryonaloli_
the sky ecks dee
oh i thought you said what is up
oops
red_rev
yeah
nbd
question604
hey there, would anyone happen to know if tor will work correctly if you're already running a vpn?
ryonaloli_
it will work correctly
red_rev
Should.
question604
or will it do some weird network stuff. I'm hoping that it work like, if the tor was compromised, then it would still be encrypted by the vpn
is this the case?
ryonaloli_
well
vpns do not provide good anonymity
but yes, if the vpn did provide anonymity, and tor were compromised by traffic analysis, the vpn would "protect" you
however there are cases where the vpn would actually cause more harm than good
question604
no but the data would be encrypted right
oh?
ryonaloli_
so unless you're already using a vpn, i would suggest using tor on its own
but don't use a vpn *just* to use with tor
question604
but they'd both work?
in both cases, i mean
ryonaloli_
the vpn would work with tor, yes
red_rev
Do not trust the VPN tho
question604
if i'm not taking too much of your time-- what cases would it be bad to use both vpn and tor?
ryonaloli_
well, a vpn is usually easier to hack into than your isp
and making the length of your connection longer can increase the chances you are subject to a successful traffic analysis attack
question604
If the vpn is using good encryption, how can it be easier to hack?
ryonaloli_
encryption isn't the only thing that makes something secure
something can use strong encryption, and still be subject to attacks
question604
hmm
ryonaloli_
for example PIA uses very good encrytion, but it is a broken vpn
red_rev
How so ?
ryonaloli_
red_rev: it is vulnerable to some magic that allows cache poisoning attacks and getting a list of user ips, et
*etc
(so a person could redirect anyone on PIA to any website they want, remotely)
red_rev
understood
question604
I'm torn as to which would be better for privacy and anonymity
red_rev
VPN is also prone to the subpoena hack haha
ryonaloli_
question604: tor would be better
question604
in most cases, would both be better than just one or the other, do you think?
sorry about all the questions
:p
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