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whyrlpool
UK is still fifth by consensus weight, 6th by count of exits, 7th by exit probability
I'm looking to see if I can get space at a DC within walking distance in London. Should I go with a company which has no relays hosted on their network or is it better to choose a hosting provider that has some experience with Tor relays?
I already run a relay on OVH
kernelcorn
are you thinking about setting up an exit, or a regular relay?
velope
"non-exit"
whyrlpool
currently running an exit. Would prefer to run an exit, but depends how the hosting provider reacts to abuse complaints
*as an exit
kernelcorn
then I think the latter option might be better
s7r
arma: yes. so we do bust in and try to take it back, or do we yield it?
+1 for this!
if I were to choose between setting up relays in NL vs UK, I'd choose UK
wonder of we can pool money to get a 10gbps. We can build and share more virtual machines on a single server, sharing with every contributor
also, if we are considering Singapore for example, I'd spare one virtual machine and make it a bwauth which would report to moria1
kwadronaut
marski: gotten any answers? I'm curous as well.
gamambel
s7r: i'd go with NL over UK. i don't trust UK's political climate...
s7r
well, from that point of view I have to agree. for diversity.. NL is already at over 18% exit power.
         

gamambel
the eternal question, do we need more diversity or do we need more capacity
i think the asia suggestion is a better one still
or africa, or ...
triton_
i think both would be good
kojin
hi all
ryonaloli_
hi
kojin
I want to build an email server under tor, how can I get a domain?
velope
if by "under tor" you mean a .onion, tor makes one for you automatically
kojin
ok so for example my email will be nickname@string.onion? is reachable outside tor?
cacahuatl
No, only through Tor
kojin
ok thank you :)
velope
and it's generally impossible to send mail from a server through tor, so a sending server can't hide its IP
cacahuatl
also .onion don't have the capacity for things like "MX" records, so you'd probably need to be doing some hacking to any servers intending to send email to the onion address
Err10n
I thought sigaint's email was based on a hidden service?
cacahuatl
You can access it through one, but it sends and receives outside of tor
Err10n
ok thank you
velope
onion-ifying a server doesn't by itself make it absolutely anonymous or secure, any more than torifying your local apps does
cacahuatl
Right, the server software itself probably leaks like a sieve, there are also other inherent problems with .onion email, like verifying the sender is who they claim and common methods for stopping spam/spoofing
marski
kwadronaut: nope
linuxthefish
what is that globe.torproject.org mirror site?
ryonaloli_
atlas?
Peng
https://globe.thecthulhu.com/ ? not sure it's still up
         

linuxthefish
thanks!
elliot
hello
anyone?
ryonaloli_
hello elliot
elliot
Do you used OnionPi ?
*use
ryonaloli_
i do not
elliot
what ip did it show when i joined
ryonaloli_
08:52 -!- elliot [~elliot@3DDAACOCH.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #tor
so it only shows your tor host
elliot
means i'm anonymous
ryonaloli_
so long as you don't willingly give out personal information, and don't get tricked into doing the same, then yeah
elliot
it keeps on changing like it should, would that affect my connection to the irc?
no, i think
ryonaloli_
tor changes *new* connections every 10 minutes
an already existing, open connection does not change
elliot
the traffic is never disconnected?
ryonaloli_
if one of the three tor nodes goes down, crashes, or reboots then you'll be disconnected
elliot
Where can I see the three nodes my traffic is going through?
ryonaloli_
i believe arm, vidalia, and the latest tor browser can show that information
elliot
thankyou
most irc servers close the connection as I try to connected via tor network
:(
Peng
Yes, IRC jerks frequently take advantage of Tor. Even this network disables it sometimes.
elliot
who's from 4chan?
ryonaloli_
elliot: me
i'm not a sh*tposter though. i only really go on /a/
elliot
i goto /b/ and /g/
ryonaloli_
elliot: let's move this to #nottor, since #tor is more for discussions about tor specifically
elliot
sure
Bronze
hi
I'm using the tor browser
Raizz
Gratz
Bronze
I was windering how stringly it can be "fingerprinted"
\*strongly
or, better put, are there ant tools/plugin that can be addedto the browserthat allow you permute or reset the values that get reported that are used by fingerprinters?
nibbler
individually or as "using tor" / "bein torbrowser" generally?
Bronze
using tor. individually
for example, each time you select the "new identity" button, I currently have to assume that the browser still has the same fingerprint
so yoy get a new exit node and a clear cache and (perhaps) clear local storgae, but can still be identified by the fingerprint
*you
qwerty1
the idea with tor browser is the 'fingerprint' is the same wherever it's run
Bronze
qwerty, OK, so anonymity is achieved because everyone is Spartacus, right?
qwerty1
yeah
Bronze
gracias.
s7r
jager: convinced that tech support?
ssdsdd
hi
who'
anyone here
Raizz
ssdsdd, 491 are here
ssdsdd
yet no one answers
Bronze
you didn't ask a question. Did you want 491 people to say "hi" back?
ssdsdd
i asked one yesterday and no one replied
so i want to know they're here before i ask a long question
Bronze
then no one had an answer or most people were afk.
Raizz
Most people run their IRC lcients in system tray
And others in other workspace (if in tiling WM)
ssdsdd
alright
do you guys use Qubes?
or Whonix
...
Raizz
He left ._.
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