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apx
are the long onion urls actually a thing yet?
arma
nope
somebody has to write a lot of code, and make it work, first
kernelcorn
coming soon though!
whyrlpool
what are the criteria for TBB's choice of exit node?
kernelcorn
TBB doesn't choose any exits, Tor does
apx: I'm hopeful that we can avoid such long URLs with a DNS system
*with a DNS
whyrlpool
hmm, tor on my raspberryPi can see iLikeKittens as an exit and use it, when I try to force TBB to go through my exit, it doesnt work. Trying to figure out why
works with other exits.
kernelcorn
how are you trying to "force it"?
whyrlpool
ExitNodes {fr}
ExcludeNodes all other nodes in france other than iLikeKittens
apx
kernelcorn not sure, I'd be looking out more for security than ease of the urls, but yes, shorter would be more accessible
         

whyrlpool
and StrictNodes 1
kernelcorn
whyrlpool: why don't you just write "Exit Nodes $fingerprint"?
whyrlpool
kernelcorn: because that doesnt work either
kernelcorn
oh? Are you getting a specific error message?
apx
whyrlpool ExitNodes DisplayNameOfNode .. e.g. ExitNodes apx2
no space
whyrlpool
all routers are down on won't exit
apx
works on my pi tho
whyrlpool
yet it exits when I connect with my raspberryPi
kernelcorn
"ExitNodes $fingerprint" where $fingerprint is the fingerprint ID of iLikeKittens, should work fine
apx
kernelcorn doesnt need to be the fingerprint
ExitNodes iLikeKittens should be sufficient
given there is only one iLikeKittens
whyrlpool
just tried ExitNodes $fingerprint
kernelcorn
right, that's why we're migrating away from names
whyrlpool
still times out and tor log says all routers are down
kernelcorn
sounds like a connection issue, that doesn't make any sense
latest Tor Browser? What version of Tor on the Pi?
apx
Looks like iLikeKittens had some downtime today, sure its not down again?
whyrlpool
latest Tor Browser (as of two days ago), Tor version 0.2.4.27 (git-412e3f7dc9c6c01a).
I'm currently SSH'd into it and watching arm
and just tested with my Pi and it exits
apx
Exits for me as well
(torbrowser)
cacahuatl
er 0.2.4.27, what version of tor browser is that?
whyrlpool
that's the version of tor, lemme check torbrowser
4.5.3
cacahuatl
to double check, you have tor browser 4.5.3 and it came with tor 0.2.4.27 bundled?
         

whyrlpool
0.2.4.27 is on my raspberryPi, lemme check the version of tor that came with TBB
cacahuatl
okay, nevermind, that's fine
whyrlpool
torbrowser on windows, raspberrypi on linux, node on linux 0.2.4.27, reduced exit policy
cacahuatl
so how are you configuring tor browser to use the specific exit?
algorythm
<3
whyrlpool
ExitNodes 04334CB737E70A8B372EBE80F192471A19EA8EE3
StrictNodes 1
cacahuatl
right, but where are you adding those?
algorythm
anywhere in the torrc most likely
whyrlpool
C:\Users\whyrlpool\Desktop\Tor Browser\Browser\TorBrowser\Data\Tor\torrc
^that one
algorythm
the config file is not structured into sections
whyrlpool
http://pastie.org/10315342
cacahuatl
that looks alright, you know you won't be able to do https over it, right?
bkl
cacahuatl likes child porn
whyrlpool
I tested http too with google.com but that didnt work either
cacahuatl
https everywhere will upgrade it to https
whyrlpool
https everywhere is off
bkl
whyrlpool: google won't work by default in ssl when user agent is strange
I mean custom useragent
cacahuatl
if it's failing rather than connecting then that's expected
whyrlpool
hmm, ok www.website.com works
bkl
whyrlpool: whats your useragent
whyrlpool
guessing it's just that my relay doesnt have the uptime to get chosen for https traffic?
bkl: good to know
cacahuatl
no it's not in it's exit policy
bkl
whyrlpool: tip: youtube ignores your useragent and always will be in https
whyrlpool
how did I leave 443 out of my exit policy?
ok fixed.
Sorry for wasting your time over that
bkl
whyrlpool: remember when you are opening an https site tor will pick up an exit nodes that will be able to open it
so if you blocked the 443 port, probably nobody will use it
c2d
velope: I want hate someone or something
algorythm
c2d: that is pretty dark
oh
dbclk
is there any reliable sites on the darkweb that sells electronics?
Pancakes
dbclk: this channel doesn't help with the deepweb, only the Tor browser
dbclk
ok
Pancakes
you're better off asking #nottor
Peng
Does anything bad happen to a relay's reputation if I take it down for a few days while it had exceeded its accounting limits and was idling anyway?
not an important question, but I'm curious
velope
down because of accounting vs. down for other reasons makes no difference to the network
Peng
That's good. Or not.
woossa
Peng maybe just set the bw limit to something really low so it stays connected
Peng
woossa: Yeah. There's debate about that. A faster relay available most of time is arguably better than a slower relay available all of the time.
Depends on if your unlucky users are streaming videos or IRCing.
velope
i say, if the relay can maintain some minimum capacity, like 250 Kbytes/sec, configure it such that it doesn't go idle.
otherwise configure it such that it maintains that minimum, going idle as necessary
cacahuatl
Really? I just open mine up and dump all the bw I can spare, it stays up like a week then hibernates for 3
velope
and so it's not a guard, i presume
cacahuatl
I used to have it configured with a minimal limit but it was being really under-utilised, so I figured it was more useful to be a good middle node for a while than a slow guard
and you could spend forever trying to tweak your advertised bw to match utilisiation then the whole thing shifts :P it's no fun
Peng
My relay's a guard >_>
velope
plausible, FSVO 'good' and 'slow'
Peng
I used to tweak advertised bw to try to avoid maxing out the CPU and dropping packets >_> Tor CPU usage got better, and the amount of traffic it got decreased anyway.
velope
and yeah, these days the bandwidth authorities are a mess, so tweaking could be a frustrating loss
cacahuatl
I've heard both sides argued well, I don't think I could say for sure which is better but i provide more of my available data throughput and don't artificually throttle circuits by just dumping everything
I think you're okay if you can provide about 3~ TB of data per month, someone made some graphs
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