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UltimateNate
Is soemthing wrong with atlas.torproject.org? beause my relay won't be listed on there even though it says "publishing server discripter"
arma
what's the relay nickname?
UltimateNate
SuchRelay, I just shut it off when getting on here.
arma
cached-descriptors.new:router SuchRelay 71.88.180.5 443 0 0
cached-descriptors.new:router SuchRelay 71.88.180.5 9001 0 0
?
UltimateNate
I even tried adding my fingerprint on https://atlas.torproject.org/#details/
yes, that's the one.
How did you find it?
It's not even on atlas
erm finding my fingerprint
finding, not adding lol.
arma: That's the one, but why isn't it listed?
arma
how long did you wait?
it looks like it's in the consensus for this hour
UltimateNate
About 30 minutes to an hour.
I wasn't exactly sure because arm wasn't displaying uptime for some reason.
buttermelted
hi
all
my node is listed multiple times on atlas because of reboots, how do i change that?
https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/oiltruffles
should i fix that?
arma
buttermelted: a reboot should not have changed its identity key. why did its key change?
         

cacahuatl
as I recall they're on openwrt with a lot of tmpfs, so possibly it does
buttermelted
arma: no plan? wanna see my torrc?
cacahuatl: ah yeah its openwrt
arma: its openwrt
so i should put the keys somewhere safe
cacahuatl
make the datadirectory some directory in a mount that isn't a tmpfs
otherwise you'll lose the key on reboot
buttermelted
cacahuatl: can you help me figure that out
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openwrttor
theres my mtab
and df -h
arma
what tor package are you using? and where is your datadirectory currently?
buttermelted
i think its /var/lib
i just installed tor via luci
i dont have storage attached via usb
tmpfs takes most of the space
arma
where do you keep your torrc file?
buttermelted
and /etc/torrc
arma
maybe that's where you should keep your datadir
buttermelted
good idea
arma
also consider setting 'avoiddiskwrites 1'
buttermelted
arma: tried that
arma
(if your disk is slow and wears down)
buttermelted
arma: but tor crashed after 12 hours or so complaining that no space is left, im not sure if that was the reason but since i put avoiddiskwrites 0 it works
arma
if the whole datadir is too big, you could make the keys/ directory in your datadir be a symlink to someplace more permanent
that way the cached directory stuff is still on tmpts
(or tmpfs)
ah. avoiddiskwrites does not change how many bytes it tries to store total
it just makes it sync to disk less often
(so, it is a coincidence that it hasn't crashed)
buttermelted
well i couldnt find out what the reason was because when i checked everything was fine
it was just in the logs
"/etc is on rootfs which has only 1.8M available
so a symlink should be fine
arma
of just the keys/ subdirectory
since the whole datadir can be 10 or 20 megabytes
for a relay
buttermelted
i have currently 17mb on /tmp
thats maximum
arma
you might try to getting a real computer at some point
buttermelted
arma: no interest
im just a relay and it seems to work
arma: isnt /var/ supposed to be refreshed after every boot anyway?
         

arma
no
at least, if on your system it is, then whoever picked /var/lib/ to put the datadir did it wrong.
buttermelted
arma: thats just default...
arma
for example, /var/mail/ is where mailboxes go by default
if your wiped all the mailboxes on every reboot, you would be a terrible OS
buttermelted
:D
ln -s /var/lib/tor/keys/ /etc/tor/keys/
like this?
or the other way?
ln -s /etc/tor/keys /var/lib/tor/keys
arma
looks plausible. make sure to set the permissions right too.
buttermelted
:(
ah damn that wont work, the symlink is going to be destroyed too
so i should put the data dir in /etc/tor and put a symlink to var
arma
or make the symlink on startup in an init script
buttermelted
:(
this is getting annoying
arma
no kidding. openwrt with no disk space seems like a pretty crappy thing.
buttermelted
i just wanted to run the relay for fun not having to do that sh*t
but i dont want to add a usb device either
ncl
an old laptop maybe?
buttermelted
no it was just fun that something like tor would run on my router
i was planning to leave it there when i moved out without telling my roommates
so it would run until they replaced the router
but this sh*t is annoying
now
arma
that's probably a poor idea anyway, unless you automate updates or something
buttermelted
arma: my roommates dont care about the router, it was worse before i installed openwrt
arma: what happens if i let it like this? does my consensus weight stop working?
or somehting?
ive read that tor nodes have to run a few days to work properly, so does it start at zero everytime again?
it has to right?
cacahuatl
Yes, and it's more than "a few days".
ncl
the cpu probably wont even be able to handle enough traffic to make it usable
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