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Chocolate_Chip
Is anyone here to help me?
I came yesterday about a tor error. The error has since been rectiufied, but it still does not start on its own
I have to open arm and select "Use Last Configuration"
How can I configure this to always open on the last configuration, at startup
It was doing this before, and I didn't have to set anything
meejah
Chocolate_Chip: more details, plz
Chocolate_Chip
Uh..
marcusw
we don't even know what OS you're running
Chocolate_Chip
[16:13:47] <Chocolate_Chip> Uh..
[16:14:04] <Chocolate_Chip> I turn on my computer, tor isn't started, I have to start it through arm
[16:14:11] <Chocolate_Chip> How do I get it to start automatically
[16:14:16] <Chocolate_Chip> What esle can I say
I dfon''t kno if you got that
meejah
i did not get that before
what OS?
Chocolate_Chip
Debian Testing
meejah
how did you install tor?
marcusw
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
         

Chocolate_Chip
meejah, through apt
cacahuatl
`systemctl enable tor`
meejah
with torproject repos?
marcusw
Chocolate_Chip
There's a tor project repo?
What is it/ I'd rater use thwat then the debian one
cacahuatl
https://torproject.org/docs/debian.html
marcusw
yeah, the debian one should be fine
you don't need arm
just do what cacahuatl said
Chocolate_Chip
thank you
meejah
esp. with 'testing' the tpo repos are probably better? i'm usually using jessie, not stretch though so ...
Chocolate_Chip
Well, I actually use a hybrid machine
cacahuatl
lol stretch isn't even listed on the debian docs on the torproject site :P
but it does exist
Chocolate_Chip
It utilyzes a process called Apt Piinning
Esentially I am running a system that uses Stable, Testing, Experimental, and Unstable packages
It's p neat. My friend taught me how
cacahuatl
...enjoy your obscure breakages in the future.
Generally the debian repos are good at keeping tor up to date, other distros vary
srg
Chocolate_Chip: that is how you break debian.
apt pinning exists, but it is not recommended for regular use
meejah
(Action) tried pinning *once* ...
srg
There's no need for pinning if you do things right ;-)
Chocolate_Chip
Using a bridge makes you further destinguished from other Tor users, right?
So why aren't bridges enabled by defaul
meejah
the stop you revealing "I am using Tor"; most users don't need them
srg
Does Tor traffic not have a "signature" or fingerprint that can be identified by monitoring the packet stream?
even if using a bridge?
cacahuatl
They defeat DPI, observers can probably tell it's a bridge, pluggable transports may make it harder still but it's not perfect.
         

meejah
they are in limited supply, and best used for people in the "most repressed" places...
Chocolate_Chip
k
meejah
srg: it tries to look like a "normal" SSL connection. But "probably".
Chocolate_Chip
So it would be selfish of me to use a bridge just because I wanted to be hidden from using tor
cacahuatl
They don't look very "normal" if you look at the cert for example, that's a dead give-away
also active follow-up probing, etc
meejah
Chocolate_Chip: can you afford to run your own bridge on a cheap VPS?
cacahuatl
Weird cert? Does it speak OR? It's a bridge!
Chocolate_Chip
meejah, nope
cacahuatl
Using a bridge will not make it look like you're not using Tor to someone actually observing you.
Bridges should be used if there is some kind of censorship/DPI that's stopping you accessing the Tor network normally.
Chocolate_Chip
k
kkspy
Hello. Could someone please explain the difference between Tails and Subgraph OS?
cacahuatl
Try #subgraph and #tails
kkspy
Thanks
mitty
hello
can i install tor on my serv and run it on my personal cpu from ssh ?
pc*
velope
doing that might make sense when torifying a simple text application like an irc client
probably less so with torbrowser, which is what you need for web browsing with tor. and torbrowser comes with its own tor that it runs locally.
cacahuatl
Also it sounds like not a great plan, if tor is running on the remote system you end up with an "SSL Added And Removed Here :¬)" situation, the server sees plaintext of tor traffic. I'd recommend running it locally.
ryouma
hi, i was trying tor browser on debian, and i am not sure if it works. "Download error: Download Error: 404 Not Found <class 'torbrowser_launcher.launcher.DownloadErrorException'>"
last message was "Downloading https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/5.5a4-hardened/tor-browser-linux64-5.5a4-hardened_en-US.tar.xz"
mitty
what about torsocks ?
ryouma
mitty: what's that?
cacahuatl
That's torbrowser-launcher, not tor browser.
ryouma
ah yes, i meant the former
cacahuatl
also I think the current debian release of it is outdated in the way it tries to fetch updates.
ryouma
is there a line i can change to get it to work? or even just to keep the old version instead of trying toupgrade to the newest?
cacahuatl
see https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher/commit/de616b147dbe81325163f99cee367ac529df0fea
velope
keeping the old version is a bad idea
forget the package, which doesn't really accomplish much, and just download according to the tor website instructions
ryouma
hmm
cacahuatl
Indeed, the main advantage of torbrowser-launcher is probably the apparmor restrictions.
mitty
pm ? velope ?
cacahuatl
anyway, that path is indeed 404, there is a quick fix in editing a file in .config I think, it's in the issues on github
velope
mitty: don't PM, keep it in the channel
mitty
ok
so actually you was telling me it is not possible ?
velope
i am telling you that you seem to be trying a complicated approach for no good reason
cacahuatl
ryouma: https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher/issues/203#issuecomment-154408847
but for future reference, torbrowser-launcher isn't an official tor project so best place to get support if stuff breaks will probably be the above linked github repo
mitty
so thats why cacahuatl says about running it locally
ryouma
cacahuatl: thanks, i've made a note of it and will take a look when i have the chance
BarryBlue
so we are supposed to install from here, right: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
but how to auto-update it? i had to update it manually last time
cacahuatl
It has automatic updates now, it'll patch itself.
meejah
BarryBlue: also, verify the signatures after downloading :)
cacahuatl
It'll prompt you, both the big warning that it's out of date and also to install it. Redownloading it is all the torbrowser-launcher does anyway, so yeah, you're doing what it does but manually with a few commands. instead of with a button click.
if you go into 'help -> about' you'll be able to check there manually and there'd be a button to patch it.
meejah
torbrowser-launcher also checks the signatures, make sure you do that too
BarryBlue
by "manually" i meant, i just had to click the "onion icon" (not download a new tarball.) in my last verion (5.03?)
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