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eemcs
Hi, when installing Tor Browser Bundle, why isnt the main folder "tor-browser_en-US/" with root ownership and 755, instead of user ownership and 700? Wouldn't it be better for security?
ralphy
hello guys
and girls :)
when running a relay, how often is the RelayBandwidthBurst used over the default speed?
is it based on the traffic needed to pass along ONLY?
Hello??
:(
junglefowl
ralphy: your text arrives, but i have no clue. maybe someone will answer soon
ralphy
junglefowl: thanks. It is good to know I wasn't typing to zoombies :)
junglefowl
i didn't write that ;)
bigxmac
I'm here too! Just not sure :)
ralphy
scary o_O lol
bigxmac
lol
junglefowl
... brains ...
         

ralphy
I just want to make sure I understand what it does properly because I have a guard relay set at 2MB/s
with an up to 8MB/s burst
hmmm... seems the burst is actually used quite a lot
the average speed is 6.2MB/s
Actually it was 6 before I upper that a bit so basically the average speed in my relay has been dictated by RelayBandwidthBurst and not the default RelayBandwidthRate
xava
is tor messenger still in test mode?
spikebike
eta
beta
xava
where can it be downloaded from?
spikebike
umm
want me to type that into google for you?
xava
I did lol
spikebike
first hit = Tor Messenger Beta: Chat over Tor, Easily | The Tor Blog
xava
well on disconnect.me
eemcs
xava: go to the blog article
mrphs
and if you find bugs, please report them on trac.torproject.org
but of course, be sure it hasn't been filed before
spikebike
I tried gmail, failed because of 2 factor auth. I tied freenod, but I think they block the exit nodes. I tried oftc, but I think they block the exit nodes. Not sure any is a tor bug.
junglefowl
oftc doesn't block, it just takes some time to find an exit node that doesn't have "too many connections open"
spikebike
junglefowl: ah, yeah I only tried twice or so
junglefowl
that's too optimistic ;)
mrphs
spikebike: you might enjoy https://blog.torproject.org/blog/call-arms-helping-internet-services-accept-anonymous-users
spikebike
mrphs: yeah, that's a tough issue. I think the best fix for that might well be a p2p version of tor.
mrphs
spikebike: no. the fix is to help service providers understand why anonymity is important :)
no p2p pls and thank you
spikebike
seems like a tough battle, I suspect they are fairly pragmatic, and users over tor are the most anti-social when posting to slashdot and the like
mrphs
spikebike: that requires a fix on society level and is pretty much off-topic here.
spikebike
agreed.
think ipv6 allowing a unique IP for a tor exit node would help the normal exit node issues?
         

Il
Hi, I'd like to run a tor relay, but I'd rather not deal with the consequences of being an exit relay, and something going wrong. (I'm fine to exit to stuff like, youtube, and high bandwidth legitimate sites though)
Is there anything I should know before I get started setting it up?
spikebike
make sure to turn on bridge and not exit in the config file ;-)
er relay and not exit
Il
Hmm. I assumed there was a way to allow exiting to certain sites.
spikebike
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment
have you read that?
Il
I dont have the technical capability to do half of those things, at the moment. I think I'll just run a bridge then.
cdiuepowqifs
where do people suggest changes to Tor messenger? can they discuss it here?
eemcs
yes you can here
spikebike
Il: you could run a relay and a non-exit node and it would still help
cdiuepowqifs
#tor-messenger default visuals sucks, make font slightly larger and choose no emoticons and any theme but Bubbles. Simple theme looks good for instance.
if Tor team plans to change the defaults of Instantbird
spikebike
normally I'd recommend opening a ticket/issue on github, but I don't see one
cdiuepowqifs
#tormessenger there is no option to clear scrollback
#tormessenger rebrand Instantbird to Tor messenger? friends seems to look as Instantbird users, lot of Instantbird references. Purpose as with Tor Browser?
mrphs
Il: it is not advised to censor/tamper-with or manipulate the traffic of any exit node.
Il: if you're not comfortable running an exit-node, please run a non-exit relay. it's still very much needed and we'd still love you for doing that :)
cdiuepowqifs
how to run entry node though
eemcs
When installing Tor Browser Bundle, why isnt the main folder "tor-browser_en-US/" with root ownership and 755, instead of user ownership and 700? Wouldn't it be better for security?
cdiuepowqifs
eemcs: maybe so that you don't need root pass to make it work
mrphs
cdiuepowqifs: you cant decide to be entry or middle. you can be either "bridge", "non-exit" or "exit"
cdiuepowqifs
thanks mrphs
eemcs
cdiuepowqifs: if it's 755 I won't need root to execute it
mrphs
eemcs: did you extract it when you were 'root'?
eemcs
mrphs: nope, I did just as it is said on the website and everything works fine as expected
I was just wondering
cdiuepowqifs
#tormessenger the logo / symbols used as visual representation of Tor Messenger application are final?
Il
Any idea how big the log files get?
cdiuepowqifs
what log files
are you required to log?
eemcs
mrphs: this way, with root owner and 755, ppl could still execute TBB normally, but the files would be write protected, instead of being free to the wild
Il
cdiuepowqifs: well I'd be curious if something breaks, I guess I can just turn them on if something does break.
having a couple problems with this: https://up1.ca/#M6KL_gn3Sp1qRjnndXzKyQ
"Couldn't open file for 'Log notice file /var/log/tor': Is a directory" is the main concern, as I dont even have a Log statement in the config
junglefowl
eemcs: and describing how (and where) to install files as roots enlarges the installation instructions and makes it more complicated to novice users
it makes sense, yes. but i assume that experienced users notice it on their own and know how to do it then
eemcs
got you
maybe a deb package could automatize this?
junglefowl
for debian-based systems, yes. but try to offer that to fedora users
eemcs
1. Download this to your Download/ folder or wherever you want. 2. Run the .deb with your package manager via your GUI or command-line. 3. Run Tor Browser from the Desktop shortcut
oh yes you're right
junglefowl
debian users have torbrowser-launcher in their repos, right?
eemcs
yes there is thing
this thing*
but I find it a bit bloated tbh
I prefer the "manual" way
spikebike
Il: it doesn't log much by default, just rm /var/log/tor then mkdir /var/log/tor
Il
ah. turns out it was meant to be a file, not a dir
got it. yay, running a tor relay now :D
torchinz
does connecting to Tor Browser (Windows) allow all the connections to pass through Tor network? I came to know that by running Tor Browser, IRC can be connected over Tor
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it was tor by the winds......or?
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kvm234
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