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SnowyNight
Hello. How many bad Tor routers must be in circuit to determine my IP address when I am connecting servers outside Tor network? I hear about 2. But How many when connecting to a hidden service?
cacahuatl
2
arma
correct
SnowyNight
Thank You cacahuatl and arma :) . But in both cases?
cacahuatl
In both cases the attacks are where the attack controls the the start and end points of your circuit and correlates them, as per the FAQ page you were linked earlier.
*attacker
SnowyNight
Thank You. :)
torQUES
hello, I built a static tor 0.2.7.3-rc for Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (Debian) http://i.imgur.com/MliLurO.jpg - all tests ok - who want to test it msg me
[notice] Self-testing indicates your DirPort is reachable from the outside. Excellent.
[notice] Self-testing indicates your ORPort is reachable from the outside. Excellent. Publishing server descriptor.
entropis1
no, thank you.
skyhighatrist
why yes
let me run your static binaries
also
> all tests ok
         

torQUES
<skyhighatrist> where to send it?
skyhighatrist
> screenshot has failed test
torQUES
that test is designed for fail
skyhighatrist
ah
transfer.sh
torQUES
no, test-bt.sh
skyhighatrist
transfer.sh is a file host
for to upload this static binary
:)
https://transfer.sh
torQUES
ahh
https://transfer.sh/%28/DLIBr/tor%29.zip
https://transfer.sh/%28/DLIBr/tor%29.tar.gz
skyhighatrist
wget time
torQUES
it's a single "all-in" app
build with putty ;-)
01:10:30 [NOTICE] Heartbeat: Tor's uptime is 0:30 hours, with 6 circuits open. I've sent 1.49 MB and received 969 kB.
entropis1
itc skyhighatrist runs malware
torQUES
lol
<entropis1> you are the devil's advocate ;-)
I use the app for my relay
I'm in consensus, so it works
qwerty1
lol
this seems a bit...
torQUES
I manage the tor server with arm and all looks ok
qwerty1
why no source man
torQUES
all libs built from sources (zlib 1.2.8, openssl 1.0.2d and libevent 2.0.22 stable)
<qwerty1> I have --disable-asciidoc in my config (sorry, it's an automated build suite)
next build I will include asciidoc too
moka
hi, I would like to ask a clarification about the process of obtaining the list of relays. This list is the document called "consensus" (example http://86.59.21.38/tor/status-vote/current/consensus/), generated AND distributed by the directory authorities? Did I get this right?
And I see that there are 10 DA, 9 partecipating in the vote of the consensus and one on the distribution of bridges (Tonga)
torQUES
this asciidoc! fckng 1.5 GB of install things ;-)
tacky
moka
tacky, I'm reading, thanks. If you are here in the next 5 minutes i'll probably have a question
qwerty1
torQUES: indeed
that's what --disable-asciidoc is for
         

torQUES
is hard to compile tor from git
qwerty1
mm not that hard
torQUES
many dos2unix first
;-)
qwerty1
huh?
you're compiling on windoz?
torQUES
no
linux
qwerty1
(Action) smiles and backs away
torQUES
but the linux machine is another box
I use putty
tacky
moka: not much i can answer that isn't documented, but one never knows. ;)
torQUES: you can ignore the winblows EOLs.
qwerty1
when it's not documented there's the source :)
source is more authoritative than documentation
torQUES
I downloaded tor src from win git and then I moved to linux machine
tacky
i don't know what win git is. sorry
torQUES
to compile with no errors first must to execute dos2unix *
qwerty1
i don't find that to be the case
are you sure you're compiling on a recent and fairly common linux distro?
tacky
torQUES: not me, but i've never had winblows in a chain. ;)
torQUES
is the latest linux
qwerty1
and have all the autocrap installed?
torQUES
Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 debian
tacky
i've also only ever built tor on dragonfly bsd, but it was wham, bam, thank you man (although i did notice some winblows infected EOLs, which i ignored).
s/man/man/ rolfz
s/man/mam/g pmsl
cary-elv1s
when you install git to windows, there's a setting about how newline is represented. i think it automatically replaces newlines accordingly when you move stuff
i tried git on windows, cloned my repo, and had to run dos2unix, couldn't compile otherwise
torQUES
me too
moka
tacky, what I'm unsure about is this: the client download the list of relays from 1) directory caches. (line 40 of dir-spec.txt) but how do you know them if you don't have the list yet? 2) Sometimes routers if they announce it in the descriptor (line 167) 3) From directory authorities. Initially I was thinking that the client would connect to directory authorities and get the list there since at list the firt time you run Tor those are the only known serv
er (their ip is hardoded in Tor)
tacky
i also don't see the point of using tor if you're using winblows underneath anyway, so i see the conjunction as an antecedent error in itself.
qwerty1
moka: if you don't have a cached consensus you try the dirauths
which are hardcoded
(there are some exceptions to that)
tacky
moka: 1) the list of *authoritative* directory servers are hard coded.
moka: so, yes, i think the other options are after you have something to work with.
moka: and i started answering before i finished reading. my bad.
qwerty1
moka: you can't count on this behavior though
why do you ask, anyway?
tacky
(Action) thinks behavior that can't be counted as a bug.
moka
qwerty1, just curiosity. And I was wondering: what happens if my ISP blocks the connection to ALL directory authorities? Even tonga for bridges? Should I go to https://bridges.torproject.org/bridges and try there?
tacky
ug. ...can't be counted on can be counted as a bug.
moka
sorry if I'm slow to type, but my english is poor
qwerty1
moka: you can use bridges
tacky
moka: well, your brain seems to be pretty good, and that's at least as important. lol
moka
tacky, ahah let's hope...It's late here and I think my brain is shutting down :)
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