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fp
lol, someone playing Nodeka through tor... that's gonna be hell
kmacy
What is Nodeka?
misc
a game
kmacy
obviously
hence "play"
google tells all
zzop
Hi guys. I just updated Snow Leopard and now Tor isn't working.
Is there a known bug out there?
misc
well, if there is know bug, it is likely in bug tracker ?
zzop
I don't even know where that is.
misc
that's good reason
zzop
I found the Trac but I don't see anything in there; are you guys aware of this issue? It seems to have to do with the latest security patches.
         

misc
i think i have heard some issue with libopenssl, or something like that
zzop
Damn. Who is working on this?
misc
mhh, tor switched to trac ?
(Action) tought it was flyspray :/
phobos
If would help if someone reported the actual issue
rather than "i just updated snow leopard and tor isn't working"
for my answer is, "did you insert quarters to continue playing?"
keb
i didnt know they used snow leopards in vending machines
Manny
*rim shot*
keb
i once worked on a news kiosk vending machine that would be a good application for Tor
Manny
how?
keb
well you dont want any central organization knowing which newspaper was downloaded where
people could also use the kiosks for web browsing
the only problem is they used credit cards for payment
Manny
seems like a pretty big problem
keb
yeah quarters/dollars would be better
in europe they use smart cards for all sorts of payments. i wonder if those machines can be torified
ninja
a
Manny
well the machine would presumably have to authenticate to the server, so unless every machine has the same credentials, tor is useless
phobos
or one doesn't trust the local network and wants to separate routing information from authentication
bja
phobos: nice post you made here -> http://blog.torproject.org/blog/life-without-ca
nsa
or: [Tor Bug Tracker] #1387 filed by Webmaster@&: #1387: P2P Question - http://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/1387
or: Will TOR work with the following P2P applications:
or: 1. uTorrent run on a home PC?
or: if YES:[...]
phobos
bja: thx
(Action) resists replying to that bug report with "wtf, srsly"
Blackpaw
Does tor get checked for evil exit nodes every so often?
Like ones running SSLstrip?
vfiki
How does one list the network without vidalia (just command line)?
Blackpaw
I don't know about the command line but you can look at torstatus.kgprog.com
         

vfiki
I am looking for a list of exit nodes, for strictexitnodes option
echelon
how do i secure mutt?
Blackpaw
The email client?
echelon
Blackpaw, yes.
bja
echelon: What are you trying to do?
echelon
just trying to figure out how to make mutt tor-friendly
bja
did you look on the torproject.org for that info?
echelon
is it on there?
bja
i can't remember, that is why i was asking, but looking into the docs first before asking is the way to go
echelon
nope
anyway, what would i have to do for outgoing messages.. just torify sendmail?
Blackpaw
All of the smart tor people seem to be fighting off Chinese assassins, you might have to try later
bja
echelon: port 25 is blocked on exit nodes to avoid spam
if you want to use anonymous email, it is faster to set up an account over a nice http based email service
Blackpaw
http://www.hushmail.com/ is supposedly nice and secure or whatever
Then just access the web interface through tor
echelon
bja, using ssl
port is 465
bja
echelon: that is deprecated, since it was used to be for submitting email. the new standard is submission on port 587. But then your email provider would have to know your identity to have the spf let you submit mail
echelon
i already created the account over tor
bja
feel free to modify your mta to use the tor proxy. Mutt usually relys on it
sorry for the misspelling on relys,
keb
Blackpaw the SoaT program does that and they are working on a new one for GSoC
William_Conqueror
hi to all
Blackpaw
keb: Oh ok cool
William_Conqueror
What do you think will such construction be workable? The tor-node on Asus WL-520GU under dd-wrt?
http://uk.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=cOWUB0XOSysr4sBM&content=overview
keb
echelon also check out mixminion
echelon
what's it do?
keb
its a anonymous remailer
your email goes thru 3 or more relays to hide the source etc, like tor
echelon
does it have as many participants?
keb
no :/
echelon
-_-
ilter
Hello everyone. How can i fetch tor 0.2.2.10-alpha by git?
ilf
i have a weirdness with tor and smtp. starttls works, but doing tls directly fails, but only with tor: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/tor-smtp-tls.txt
any idea?
karsten
ilter: clone the official tor repository and checkout that tag.
ilter
karsten: Could you say commands to do it?
karsten
git clone git://git.torproject.org/tor
cd tor/
git checkout tags/tor-0.2.2.10-alpha
ilter
(Action) is doing it
karsten: Is it "git checkout -b tags/tor-0.2.2.10-alpha"?
karsten
rather: git checkout -b my-tor-0.2.2.10-alpha tags/tor-0.2.2.10-alpha
if you want to have that version in a new branch.
ilter
karsten: It works. Thank you for your help.
nsa
or: [tor/maint-0.2.1] 2010-05-06 11:15:22 Roger Dingledine <arma@torproject.org>: move to maxmind geoip db
or: [tor/master] 2010-05-06 11:15:22 Roger Dingledine <arma@torproject.org>: move to maxmind geoip db
or: [tor/master] 2010-05-06 11:18:44 Roger Dingledine <arma@torproject.org>: Merge branch 'maint-0.2.1'
William_Conqueror
hello, my server works so well that I receive an abuse report against it!!! What do you think about it: http://paste.org.ru/?4iribn?
It seems me that it is delirium of a madman!!!
arma
it looks like they are reporting that somebody at your ip address connected to a website they'd set up to catch compromised computers
presumably that was somebody using tor and popping out of your relay
do they want an answer? or rather, does your isp want you to answer them? or are you your own isp?
William_Conqueror
i am not an isp
I answer to my hosting-provider that I think about it and I am waiting their answer now.
arma
do they know you run a tor exit relay?
presumably they're now thinking you've been compromised
ilf
i have a weirdness with tor and smtp. starttls works, but doing tls directly fails, but only with tor: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/tor-smtp-tls.txt
William_Conqueror
I write them about it
ilf
any idea?
jn
afaik www.shadowserver.net does not require/need an answer. It is sent as a friendly information for those whos ip is "compromised".
Could be that some one using Tor actually is compromised and the traffic went out via Tor from your relay.
or a resarcher that uses Tor to investigate the malware site moniored by shadowserver...
rjcks
the GFW seems to have blocked the bridge I've been using
this time it lasted for 7 or 8 weeks - the ones before that only lasted 1 week
murb
(Action) is reminded to check his bridges still work.
seems so.
William_Conqueror
Can I block outgoing connections from my tor-node with any servers through their dns, ip etc.&
?
My vds-provider are very strange people. They demand from me to resolve that problem but refused my askings give me immediate direction to stop my tor-node.
I want to block all connections from Tor with domen which sent abuse
misc
well, you can do it by ip
William_Conqueror
misc, only by ip?
misc
William_Conqueror: by port too
William_Conqueror
i think that it is a port 80 :-)
Tryst
i rahter find another vps provider that undertands what's Tor is all about.
William_Conqueror
Tryst, could you reccomend it me?
rascal999
im interesting in becoming a relay, but would like to have advertisements to help fund it, is this possible?
Tryst
William_Conqueror:not so sure if it's prudent to post here it in public though i could send you by other means. what's your node?
William_Conqueror
could anyone help me to write the rule for ipwf (a firewall under FreeBSD) for rejections all connections with ip or domane name? I use FreeBSD only few days and I didn't earlier used ipfw only iptables.
?
Tryst, OK, sorry
Here is a list of such providers : https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/GoodBadISPs
What anyone think about them?
Tryst
sh3lls and FDCservers seems good if you're in a limited budget
William_Conqueror
Tryst, thanks
Tryst
FDCservers my understanding offers unlimited thought not so sure about Tor node policy.better email them directly
keb
rascal999 nothing stops you from putting ads on your web page that says it is a tor relay. however if you run a exit node and add advertising to pages sent back to users you will be listed as a BadExit node
rascal999
keb: why?
keb
because users trust their proxy to deliver them the site they asked for, not something altered
Tryst
coz you injected something in the proxied page.
rascal999
aweso...
keb
other proxy services might do that as a policy, but not Tor network
lol
Tryst
anonymous is a good example
William_Conqueror:try the netherlands vps provider also
try their resellers if you wann try them first for your low budget trial.
calwig
hello peoples of Centaurion
Is... Tor broken?
keb
the protocol or the network
calwig
aint routing thru anywhere
well the network or the main servers
keb
if you have vidalia you can get a New Identity and try again
calwig
seems like there's no issues then
so... it may be something here
will check.... be back in a light year or two
William_Conqueror
they are idiots, they wright me that I must give access to my proxy on my node only authorizide clients ...
keb
if your tor client hasnt been used for a while it takes a nap
Tryst
which one?
keb
William_Conqueror does that ISP prohibit running open proxies
?
if it isnt listed in their terms of service, you could argue they cannot stop you from doing it
murb
keb: any half decent ISP will have terms that allow them to discountinue service for abuse: other.
Tryst
William_Conqueror:which provider are you talking about?
keb
calwig i can get to http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Tryst
William_Conqueror:try also switch link if you prefer UK
though its a unmanaged
William_Conqueror
keb, No, there is no any announcment about it on their site. After my asking before renting vds their employers inform me that I need only to test the Tor for be persuaded that the Tor is workable n their servers
Tryst
which provider are you talking about?
William_Conqueror
thanks to all
Tryst> I think to try this: Tryst>
sorry
http://www.keyweb.de/
My idiots tell me that I can use my node but if they receive an abuse else they close my vds without any warning
Sorry, but I have no softer words as they are dirty pigs
calwig
mm
something is strange with the routing.
William_Conqueror
Are there here any people from Germany?
calwig
Deutschland
depends on what you need ;)
William_Conqueror
calwig, is it lawful in your country to to make consumer frauds from vds-IPS?
calwig
im not sure what vds-IPS are
William_Conqueror
If I appeal to your embassodor in my country concirning the above is it possible that Germany's cognizant authorities close that den of scammers?
I mean hosting provider
calwig
what is the I stand for
William_Conqueror
strike off their business?
calwig
may want to go to #nottor for your concerns William_Conqueror
this channel is exclusively for Tor questions
but if it is a Tor question... :P then just wait for someone to hear you out
something is broken with my Tor installation, but I have absolutely not done anything to it! evening shutdown, morning start... boom! not wowrking
Pain in the rear ARZE
William_Conqueror
I am very angry for that their obstruction to me in maintaining my exit node in violation of a contract
calwig
William_Conqueror: law-suit
interesting, I could be being blocked
DFN DFN DFN
if you're listening
please stop it
problem-solution fixed... It looks like....
my computer's time was off by 2 hours. However as the computer started, it did load a page with Tor on it. Then a few minutes later a few pages did not want to load any longer. 2 hours behind
calwig_
funktioniert!
keb
William_Conqueror i have a ISP in Canada and they did the same thing. I asked them before signing up specifically about running Tor node and they said ok. Then when abuse complaints come in they told me to stop. However with rejecting a few ip addresses and ports in exit policy i was able to stop most abuse reports. about 1 per month now.
It helps if you speak the same language as them
William_Conqueror
keb, I speak in the same language as employers of my ISP - my native language,and they can't understand. It seems to me that english-languaged people can understand me better than my compatrios in spite of that for english-languaged people matters of anonimity are not so important than for my compatriots living under bloody tirany and dictatorship
Tryst
keb:when you got your first abuse notice, how long been your node up and running?
keb
maybe they are not educated, or maybe they are hostile to anonymity
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