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TJ
anyone knows a webhosting provider that's tor friendly?
kaner
TJ: https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/GoodBadISPs
TJ
i just want to help the communty so im thinking of running a node though i have very limited budget so i thought of getting a vps. any team here that helps or shares someone on getting their node running?
misc
well, we can help if you have question, yes
TJ
that im not familiar with vps and specially the unmanaged one. maybe someone from the community will help setup one in order to have a reliable and functioning node for us?
TJ1344
that im not familiar with vps and specially the unmanaged one. maybe someone from the community will help setup one additional node of us?
dr|z3d
TJ1344: Setting up a vps shouldn't be much different than configuring a node elsewise.
TJ
that im not familiar with vps and specially the unmanaged one. maybe someone from the community will help setup one additional node of us?
dr|z3d
TJ1344: Setting up a vps shouldn't be much different than configuring a node elsewise.
         

misc
have you installed linux or a unix system ?
TJ
honestly i dont know anything about those things :( that's why i went here to help me on those technical details. specially securing those Tor sensitive data on a hosted vps.
misc
TJ: well, I think you should try to install linux in virtual environnement, using virtualbox or something like that get familliar with the syntax, and so on
dr|z3d
Good idea, misc..
pipe
(it's sort of impossible to secure anything when someone else have physical access to the machine)
dr|z3d
TJ: Definitely do a dry run with VirtualBox.. configuring a Linux system for Tor is beyond the remit of this channel.. pick a distro, and then go and hang in the relevant distro channel for install/configuration supporty.
TJ: Please, talk to me here.
TJ: Whilst it's an honorable plan to provide a node for Tor, you really need to be able to configure and maintain it yourself.
Unless, that is, you can find someone trusted to work with, that perhaps assumes sysadmin duties on your behalf. Ideally, though, you want to skipper your own boat!
ilter
Sebastian: Which one?
Sebastian
https://bugs.torproject.org/flyspray/index.php?do=details&id=1341 that one
ilter
Sebastian: That's good, as i remember you worked on it so much ..
Sebastian: How did you fix it?
Sebastian
patience
ilter
:) ok
karsten: Are you there?
SwissTorExit
morning Sebastian, ilter :D
was the backtrace useful for you Seb ?
ilter
SwissTorExit: Hello, good afternoon :)
SwissTorExit
:p
Sebastian
SwissTorExit: nickm thinks it is a libevent bug that he is already working on
SwissTorExit
oh okydoky, so that's on a good way :P the bufferevents it is a improuvement with libevent ?
Sebastian
hrm
I have a fix
but I'm not yet sure what triggers the bug. ugh.
ah
heh
Any Tor client segfaults on hup
lol
awesome
SwissTorExit
i have try as Bridge to run the bufferevents and i get the same bug but without core
Sebastian
Then I understand what's going on.
SwissTorExit
great ! :D
         

ilter
(Action) will be here in a hour
Sebastian
woot
my fix works
SwissTorExit
(Action) sing and dance for Sebastian lol
:P
nsa
or: sebastian committed revision 22115 (/projects/todo): new anti-segfault branch
Sebastian
SwissTorExit: yeah, the bufferevents stuff is supposed to help lots with relays on windows
pipe
anti-segfault is good
Sebastian
pipe: watch me make a new pro-segfault branch soon, but pretend it's a feature
pipe
:(
SwissTorExit
oh ok, so i will not see a big deal on multi core linux, but great anyway, since i use libevent 2.xx, i has only rarely "eventDNS" errors and look more performant as old one, be impatient to try the feature on my real OS soon :D
Sebastian
pipe: ah, the segfault only happened with libevent 2.x
nsa
or: [debian-tor/debian-0.2.1] 2010-04-03 11:26:09 Peter Palfrader <peter@palfrader.org>: Let the vidalia package override some of our init script settings.
or: [debian-tor/debian-0.2.1] 2010-04-03 11:22:24 Peter Palfrader <peter@palfrader.org>: Update a comment to match what the following line currently does
or: [debian-tor/debian-0.2.1] 2010-04-03 11:30:23 Peter Palfrader <peter@palfrader.org>: Update changelog
or: [tor/master] 2010-04-03 10:13:25 Sebastian Hahn <sebastian@torproject.org>: Fix a segfault when a client is hup'd.
or: [tor/master] 2010-04-03 14:34:04 Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: Merge commit 'sebastian/libxml'
or: [tor/master] 2010-03-30 12:53:30 Sebastian Hahn <sebastian@torproject.org>: Mention libxml2-utils in our asciidoc dependencies
Sebastian
tada
nsa
or: [debian-tor/master] 2010-04-03 11:26:09 Peter Palfrader <peter@palfrader.org>: Let the vidalia package override some of our init script settings.
or: [debian-tor/master] 2010-04-03 11:22:24 Peter Palfrader <peter@palfrader.org>: Update a comment to match what the following line currently does
or: [debian-tor/master] 2010-04-03 13:25:00 Peter Palfrader <peter@palfrader.org>: Update changelog
BarkerJr
is there a graph of current tor bandwidth?
Sebastian
metrics.torproject.org might have what you want
if not, ping karsten
BarkerJr
metrics only has capacity, not actual
SwissTorExit
hi BarkerJr, well i dunno, kgprog are down from some days now and i haven't see my banditch for a few :/
BarkerJr
I only know mine by my host's graphs
ilter
Hello everyone. Which command can i use to see my guard nodes via TorCtl?
arma
getinfo entry-guards
ilter
arma: Thank you. How many should are there in list?
arma
at least 3, sometimes 100
depends how long you've been running and how bad your network has been
i have 10 currently, it seems
ilter
arma: Hmm.. I see nearly 15. Is there any way to see their names instead of their fingerprints?
arma
look them up in your descriptor file
ilter
arma: So i need to match them by manually, ha?
arma
sure. or you can have a program do it, if you write the program
ilter
arma: Ok i'll think to write. What about these statement on this llist? : ..D3....82A unusable 2010-04-01 18:37:06
arma: Why is it still on list if it's unusable?
arma
look in your ~/.tor/state file
you'll see the same info there, maybe in a format you like more
ilter
arma: My state file seems old. Should tor update it periodically?
arma: LastWritten 2010-03-15 22:45:17
SwissTorExit
yes it must, min was 2 min ago and it's always up to date by me, strange ilter
arma
ilter: you might be looking at the wrong datadirectory
ilter
arma: Let me to check ..
SwissTorExit, arma: Sorry, you're right. I had looked wrong datadirectory.
SwissTorExit
:P
ilter
:-D
arma: My state file says for same entry guard: "EntryGuardAddedBy ...EB71..2A 0.2.1.25 2010-03-26 05:58:26". Does it mean that it started to serve as a guard node from this date?
arma
yes
well, actually not quite
let me find a url that explains it
http://archives.seul.org/or/dev/Jan-2010/msg00004.html
ilter
arma: It'll be good for me. I haven't realized state file before. Thank you for your concern.
(Action) looks
arma
so in short, the date in your state file is a deliberate lie, in case some bad person gets a copy of your state file.
ilter
arma: Hmm.. yes i read. But could you say why does tor need to keep entry guards node in a list?
arma
https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#EntryGuards
ilter
arma: I'm confused. How specifiying a few entry guards are better than random selection from all guard list ... Ok i'll read wright's papers.
arma
every time you use a new guard, you increase the chances that one of the guards you've used is evil
so you should only use a few guards, ideally
misc
there is no way to validate a tor configuration file with some command line option ? ( i am playing with svn + cfengine, and want to be sure that tor configuration is correct on commit )
arma
misc: tor --verify-config
misc
damned, i didn't see it in the man page :/
thanks
arma
see debian/tor.init for an example way to use it
ilter
arma: Yes it seems right but i think it's not enough for attacker. I mean if i use evil guard for one time ..
costre
Yay, 9-16 chinese connections \o/ along with 1-8 uzbekistanians
arma
nice
costre
still crazy low bandwidth .... they are appearantly not using Tor for Torrents
no pun intended :p
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