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Anmibe
relay needed two hours until it appeared in the consens, but now it is there; thx for help!
Sebastian
awesome, thanks for running a relay
Anmibe
It's Ok, hope it won't disturbe other processes on my mMac.If not it will be always online.
subbie3
I had a message that polipo fu*ked out, should I restart tor?
Sebastian_
subbie3: pasting the message might be a good start
subbie3
I closed the window, but it just said something about an "in page" error
arma
which OS? what sort of tor install did you do?
outofwords
Does "router-signature" NL mean that between "router-signature" and NL can be anything? Just wonder if any implementation takes hash for strictly "....router-signature\n", while the canonical code treat it like "....router-signature..blahblahany\t..\n". But the spec means args not \t.
arma
"router-signature" NL means nothing in between.
does the spec disagree with the code?
         

outofwords
yes
arma
(i haven't been paying attention to the whole directory footer mess)
outofwords
that router-footer. but the same for directory too, yeah.
the problem is compatible mode with v1 dir
arma
v1 dir is pretty much dead.
maybe even entirely dead
Sebastian_
tor26 still is a v1 dir, no?
arma
it is, but it provides an empty directory.
outofwords
yes, but code still waits till args between it. if any while get_next_tokenize.
err, it get_next_token()
arma
i wonder if we will ever have any need for args to router-signature.
outofwords
well it's not problem of get_next_token()
well it's possible will some other document format.
just wonder if right now some implementation can be fooled and discard such descriptor
router_get_hash_impl_helper() does the right as "1.3. Signing documents" of dir-spec.txt. With result violating of "2.1. Router descriptor format"
spec disagree with the spec. alas.
ppk
has anyone been able to get sasl working on irssi on windows?
i need that in order to get tor working for freenode
could anyone tell me how you can send to debian?
its not letting me send a message to debian
arma
do you mean #debian? if so, it's quite possible they've silenced tor users.
ppk
yes
arma
turns out there are too many jerks on the internet
ppk
thats not good
well why dont they just take it to freenode if they dont like tor users. there's a debian channel there
arma do you happen to know the oftc irc:// url? i have mine only set for tor usage
arma
irc.oftc.net
ppk
thanks
arma, and mikeperry, if you're here: you two were talking about windows being a vulnerability to anonymity earlier. what are you're opinions on ubuntu?
sorry, I'm a fu*king idiot, so I can't use the harder flavors
I could really use a buddy to teach me more about tor and privacy. or at least someone I could learn with together
arma
ubuntu is better. it still has plenty of ways to get hurt though. especially if you install things on acroread on top of it.
outofwords
Do the string "<signature item keyword> [arguments] NL SIGNATURE NL" means that argument is optional and can be skiped?
arma
yes
outofwords
ok so need only modify the code. ideally that section need say about optionality too.
"Item's keyword and its arguments." no words.
         

ppk
what do you mean by "install things on acroread on top of it"?
Sebastian_
ppk: I think it's supposed to mean "install things like acroread on top of it"
arma
ah. yes.
outofwords: can you provide patches? it's often hard to know exactly what problems you're pointing out.
outofwords
I can only as idea fix, so am going to write it.
ppk
arma, Sebastian_ : what would you use as a alternative?
arma
outofwords: great
ppk: lots of people use evince
outofwords
ideafix http://paste.debian.net/62206/
for extrainfo wrongly fix. yet one try.
http://paste.debian.net/62207/ ideafix for sure.
nah, yet cert need to fix, but hopes idea is trasmitted.
and rend stuff.
get_next_token() have a fragile logic, even if it "We go ahead whether there are arguments or not, so that tok->args is always set" while *s == eol. tok->args = memarea_memdup(area, args, 0x00) for such case. so any access to args[0] is invalid in theory.
if any try to access anything from tok->args[] with tok->n_args=0, it clearly should crash. bug should not be hidden. so here clarified func http://paste.debian.net/62216/
hah nah not such.
http://paste.debian.net/62219/ clear fix of get_next_token()
no, it's incomplete. ignore it.
http://paste.debian.net/62245/ I don't know why it need, but my brain can't release it.
Fix a spec conformance issue (complete version): http://paste.debian.net/62253/
"ArgumentChar ::= any printing ASCII character except NL." space is printing character, isn't?
so "KeywordLine ::= Keyword NL | Keyword WS ArgumentChar+ NL" means Keyword space space space NL is valid isn't?
then "router-signature" NL Signature NL means that "router-signature \n" valid. is true?
and "router-signature\t\n" is not valid. ouch.
so code is unrealy hard to properly implement of such spec.
I am give up with tor
StrangeCharm
i'm trying to run tor 0.2.1.23 on ubuntu 9.10. when i try to start it, tor complains that it can't read ~/.tor, but i've chowned that dir to debian-tor
QLMQ
hello
I know the tor-directory-authority-archive URL, but I 'm not able to find the script that tells you whether an IP was an onion router at timestamp T
has somebody know where I can find it please?
thank you.
I know the tor-directory-authority-archive URL, but I 'm not able to find the script that tells ou whether an IP was an onion router at timestamp T.
has somebody know where I can find it please?
(sorry for repetition but I've been disconnected and I don't know if you received it)
Ok I've found it: https://svn.torproject.org/svn/projects/archives/trunk/exonerator/
StrangeCharm
i'm trying to run tor 0.2.1.23 on ubuntu 9.10. when i try to start it, tor complains that it can't read ~/.tor, but i've chowned that dir to debian-tor
waltman
shouldn't it be owned by you, not debian-tor?
StrangeCharm
waltman, doesn't tor run as debian-tor?
anrxc
StrangeCharm: what's the permission on your $HOME
StrangeCharm: if it's not executable by others then that user could not read that directory
StrangeCharm: that is if you are sure ~ means your home, not home of that user....
OFFShare
is there an entry in /etc/init.d to start tor at startup ?
StrangeCharm
anrxc, i'm using ~ as shorthand. it means home of my primary user, not debian-tor
OFFShare, yes
anrxc, i don't know what the permission is.
anrxc
StrangeCharm: with a chmod like 750 owner can read/write/execute, group can read/execute and others don't have any rights
StrangeCharm: which then means debian-tor can not read ~/.tor inside that directory
StrangeCharm: just double check if that is the reason for your problems
StrangeCharm
anrxc, how do i check that?
anrxc
StrangeCharm: ls -al /home
StrangeCharm: there are three groups of rwx fields for your directory rwx-r-x--- < this is 750, you need to make it 751 rwxr-x--x
StrangeCharm: that has security implications in that you will have to make sure all your private data is not readable by others... but that's another story and it's time you learn about it somewhere on the web
StrangeCharm
it's a single-user system, so i'm not hugely concerned about that
anrxc
StrangeCharm: I don't understand why tor wants to read something in your home directory in the first place... I would rather fix that
StrangeCharm: maybe my small tutorial will help you understanding basic tor usage http://sysphere.org/~anrxc/j/articles/tor/index.html
StrangeCharm
well, i wanted to have the keys somewhere easy to backup. but i think i'll just add a cron job to back them up
anrxc
oh it was on purpose, okay then, you now what you're doing :)
StrangeCharm
no, i don't actually know what i'm doing. i know some of what i'm doing.
OFFShare
StrangeCharm: so check if the tor command has a user id as an argument. read "man tor"..
nsa
or: arma committed revision 21782 (/website/trunk): fix link to gitweb proposals directory
rahul_
l;l
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katmagic
Huh?
I'm get incredibly long ping times (about two minutes.)
Why?
phobos
flux capacitory is out of alignment, sorry
how are you connected?
nsa
or: pootle committed revision 21783 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/fr): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user runa. 65 of 65 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
or: pootle committed revision 21784 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/zh_CN): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user runa. 62 of 65 messages translated (3 fuzzy).
or: pootle committed revision 21785 (/projects/gettor/i18n/vi): updated files from pootle
or: pootle committed revision 21786 (/translation/trunk/projects/torbutton): updated files from pootle
or: pootle committed revision 21787 (/translation/trunk/projects/website): updated files from pootle
or: runa committed revision 21788 (/website/trunk): new and updated translations
katmagic
What desktop mail client should I use with Tor?
arma
firefox, and gmail?
katmagic
GMail requires a cellphone to sign up.
(And it's not a *desktop* mail client.)
mete1989
since when gmail needs a cellphone to sign up? o_O
dun
some weeks
katmagic: you can 'torify' claws mail, according to https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorifyHOWTO its safer then thunderbird and seems to be a nice client
nsa
or: runa committed revision 21789 (/translation/trunk/projects/website): updated po files for pootle
or: sebastian committed revision 21790 (/check/trunk/i18n): Fix torcheck externals definition for pootle
katmagic
It looks pretty cool. I think I'll give it a try.
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