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ilter
Hello. How can i reach committed interview which "phobos committed revision 21950 (/website/trunk/en): add steven's interview about the dark web."?
sjmurdoc2
ilter: It's here: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/356254/the-dark-side-of-the-web
shahn
ilter: you should learn about http://archives.seul.org/or/cvs/
all commits go there
nsa
or: phobos committed revision 21951 (/website/trunk/include): update the website mirrors
ilter
Thank you sjmurdoc2 and shahn. I'll read this interview and also i'm trying "nsa:or" messages. For example can i reach "website/trunk/" site?
phobos
https://svn.torproject.org/svn
https://www.torproject.org/documentation.html.en#Developers
ilter
Thank you phobos. I didn't know this svn page.
Hmm.. I realize that there is a webpage on "
atagar
ilter: not aware of any (looked a while back but didn't spot anything obvious) - admittedly the site navigation is pretty bad
nsa
or: phobos committed revision 21952 (/website/trunk): After sitting in my sandbox for ages, purge the flags
         

phobos
it's on the main page
ilter
atagar: I appreciate all of your efforts. I think that tor webpage is good. Maybe you should put a link for this useful tormedia webpage on main page.
:)
phobos
where it says "More News | Press Releases | Tor in the News"
ilter
Have you put it now?
phobos
it's been there for years
ilter
:)
Ooops that's mean i'm learning .. :)
phobos
the website loads much faster without the flags
i wonder how much of this is firefox render time vs load
atagar
You mean the tiny country flags? (if so that's... surprising)
phobos
each one is a request and ff can't do a fast job of getting the images
and then rendering them
if only torbutton didn't break tamper data graphing
atagar
after the initial GET request for the flags they're cached and hence shouldn't be any further burden
phobos
in theory
atagar
should be more than theory unless our site is doing something pretty bazaar
phobos
well, i'll have graphs soon
arma
phobos: woo. so the flags are now gone from our future website? and we hope they either have auto-language negotiation, or click on the language from the bottom?
phobos
yes
arma
in that case, we should encourage runa (or somebody) to fix her bug where whenever she generates a wml file from a po file, it fails to include foot.wmi
(i am doing the fixes manually for now so our website isn't busted)
atagar
putting the language selection on the bottom might not be such a great idea (out of sight out of mind, and I'm assuming torbutton tweaks the user agent so we can't rely on automated language detection)
(Action) recognizes it's a bikeshed issue and goes back to work
arma
yes, torbutton forces you into english. this is a torbutton bug. it should instead ask you what language you want it to force you into, when it starts
(or whether it should)
zeleftikam
jesus fscking christmas what a nightmare it is to be blacklisted on freenode because of running Tor
they say i am banned because of this file
http://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=66.97.98.151
how do I make it go away?
arma
are you still an exit relay, or did you stop a while ago?
         

zeleftikam
i stopped a long time ago
arma
you have to mail them and tell them to manually remove the ban
zeleftikam
i was never a port 80 exit relay
arma
you're right, it's totally a hassle. they claim they like privacy, but they make you go through this manual process
zeleftikam
what does this mean:
arma
expect them to ignore your email too :(
zeleftikam
This is a list of all Tor exit nodes that can contact 66.97.98.151 on Port 80
of course i can be contacted on port 80, i run a webserver there
i'll always be able to be contacted on port 80
now do i stay banned from IRC forever because I have a website?
nsa
or: arma committed revision 21953 (/website/trunk): if we're going to rely on the footer, then actually attach it.
or: our po to wml process has a bug where it doesn't attach the footer.
or: somebody should fix the bug before we make wml files again.
arma
zeleftikam: did they actually point you at that url?
if so, they're using it wrong
zeleftikam
arma, yes, that's what they said is the source of my ban
:( help
arma
ha. well, they're using it wrong. in any case,
i did help:
zeleftikam
i rely on support from freenode channels to run my business
arma
> you have to mail them and tell them to manually remove the ban
zeleftikam
mail who?
arma
the email address in the ban message, perhaps?
nsa
or: arma committed revision 21954 (/website/trunk/ar): no arabic files will build without a footer. copy the english one
or: for now.
phobos
without the flags, we go from 6s page render to 2s
arma
progress!
phobos
http://interloper.org/tmp/tor/2010-03-14-torproject-org-with-flags.pdf vs. http://interloper.org/tmp/tor/2010-03-14-torproject-no-flags.pdf
and 29 get requests to 12
arma
should we enable mod-gzip?
phobos
now that we have two webservers, possibly
although, i question if the gzip overhead negates any performance gains
arma
well, it trades off cpu for bandwidth, right?
we at tor should be a big fan of doing that :)
phobos
mod_deflate is enabled
arma
your pdfs above seem to think no compression is enabled
maybe their service can't do deflate, but firefox can
phobos
the module is enabled, but apparently the output filter isn't turned on in debian's default config
arma
(whoever chose 'de' as the prefix to mean 'enable' should be shot)
pipe
deutschland deutschland über alles
phobos
there, enabled on 1 webserver
nsa
or: pootle committed revision 21955 (/translation/trunk/projects/torbutton/ru): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user carolyn. 30 of 30 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
arma
what's the story with burmese and charsets? is it utf-8?
phobos
they should be
nsa
or: pootle committed revision 21956 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/ru/torbrowser): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user carolyn. 65 of 65 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
or: pootle committed revision 21957 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/ru/torbrowser): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user carolyn. 38 of 38 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
or: pootle committed revision 21958 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/ru/torbrowser): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user carolyn. 10 of 10 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
or: pootle committed revision 21959 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/ru): Commit from The Tor Translation Portal by user carolyn. 14 of 14 messages translated (0 fuzzy).
torifythenet
does tor use ICMP protocol?
I keep on getting firewall block notices from ICMP protocol
pipe
Hm, I don't think tor use that
at least not directly
But I know nothing, don't listen to me
waltman
I just turned on info logging and I'm getting a bunch of messages that say "resolve_my_address(): Could not resolve local Address 'www.mawode.com'. Failing."
But I *can* resolve that address locally just fine.
this is being called from router_pick_published_address()
Oh well. I have to reboot tomorrow morning for a new debian kernel. Maybe that will clear it up.
If I have a fixed IP, do I just want to hard-code Address in /etc/torrc instead of using a symbolic name?
I'm heading to bed now, but I'll stay on the channel in case anyone is awake to answer overnight. Thanks.
Sebastian_
waltman: what Tor version are you using? 0.2.1.23 and 0.2.1.24 have a bug with name resolving. Just put the IP into the Address field for now.
xtoaster
help away
Runa
arma: your fix for this 'bug', isn't it just a oneliner with sed or something? :)
(if so, then please email me or somethihng, and I'll see if I can get it fixed soon)
nsa
or: arma committed revision 21960 (/website/trunk): add arabic, burmese, and estonian. fix wml bugs too.
or: arma committed revision 21961 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/bms): fix various broken links in the burmese faq
or: arma committed revision 21962 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/et): fix broken link in the estonian download page
joshua_k
Hello! I have the following problem: Vidalia stops loading tor while saying "loading network status". The message log says: "[Warnung] Received http status code 404 ("Consensus not signed by sufficient number of requested authorities") from server '94.23.168.19:443' while fetching consensus directory." Maybe some one can help me with this? Thanks!
Tor btw worked without a problem until this problem occured now.
Sebastian_
which Tor version is that?
joshua_k
0.2.1.19 on Fedora 12
Sebastian_
ok, that's not unexpected. You should upgrade
joshua_k
Oops. Thank you, I'll update. :)
Sebastian_
Please let us know how it goes
SwissTorExit
hi Sebastian_ and everyone :P
joshua_k
Now it hangs with a new error message &
Or is a reboot required?
SwissTorExit
what's your message ?
joshua_k
Mrz 15 11:19:39.061 [Notice] I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit: We have only 0/1586 usable descriptors.
murb
has china/etc been cracking down again on tor bridges?
SwissTorExit
just wait a while, it download the new list i think and it's normal
murb
I've noticed a large decline in traffic from the 5th/6th on atleast 2 bridges i run.
joshua_k
Yea & I see! It just seems to need some time
Sebastian_
murb: yes
arma
murb: if you can switch them to a nearby ip address, now would be a good time
if not, no worries. iran will need them soon enough.
murb
arma: yes, i was thinking of doing that.
hmm and they seem more selective in their blocking, i can still reach www.baidu.com
arma
try putting it on a different ORPort then
might be enough
joshua_k
Sebastian_: It works now. Thanks, again, for your help!
Sebastian_
joshua_k: great
joshua_k
bye
murb
arma: yes, just changing the ORPort is sufficent :)
can i advertise multiple ORPorts?
Sebastian_
no
murb
okay, i'mjust moving to 8443 for now.
(i tested it with openssl s_client -connect myip:443 which just treutned connect
8443 which i setup worked as normal.
Sebastian_
treutned
?
murb
yeah, with all the correct stuff.
443 just gets a connect and nothing works, but on an alternative port which i forwarded it works.
Sebastian_
I mean what does that word mean
murb
returned
sorry
Sebastian_
ah
heh
murb
CONNECTED(00000003)\nwrite:errno=104 is what happens when it is blocked
arma
murb: you can orlistenaddress the old one though, in case anybody still uses it
murb
arma: both ports are forwarded
i was just wondering if it was possible to advertise both as availble.
arma
not currently, alas. it's on the list, but nobody's likely to do it anytime soon.
(Action) tries to sleep again
Sebastian_
good luck
murb
okay, one moved to 8443, the second i just added a additional ip and changed Address
hopefully they'll be online in china soon.
Selcuk
hi all
i want to use tor vm on the qemu in my linux pc
but i can not make bridge configurations
i mean network bridge between my linux and qemu
z3r0
i would go ask quemu for help
Selcuk
hi
i want to use qemu and tor vm
on my linux pc
so is somebody have that kind of experiance ?
Sebastian_
Selcuk: unfortunately torvm is pretty unmaintained currently
maybe if you mention a specific problem someone has an idea.
Selcuk
ok
SwissTorExit
Sebastian_: hi, i have become my first "vorladung" für geschpracht mit dem Polizei Monday
Motivation : Befragung, si it seem that's there just want a few infos now
swissknife
SwissTorExit: bitte berichten, please report what they want to know ..
SwissTorExit
that's a sure thing, 6 months i am on waiting for a letter :/
but don't worrie, i will keep in touch and will on blog too whenwill be the time :P
swissknife
as you meigth see, i am not ar away from you, SG :)
*far
SwissTorExit
yeah not away, a few miles ;)
well you have sure hear in end september, there was 136 peoples take the same day, i was take by mistake in this :(
well wait and see now ..
Selcuk
what are you talking about?
SwissTorExit
a mistake from autorities
Selcuk
hmm
phobos
i read this as good news SwissTorExit
Selcuk
what does vorladung mean
SwissTorExit
hey phobos, yeah, i feel same because that not same service this time and title look just normal in that case
phobos
Est-ce là de bonnes nouvelles?
SwissTorExit
i think so
phobos
Une semaine en Belgique ne m'aide pas parler français tout mieux qu'avant.
SwissTorExit
if will not, there will me send in criminal central again
phobos
;)
SwissTorExit
that's in my city and know personnaly a few detective, so i am positive :D
last time was really hardcore :/
phobos
Bien, votre anglais est beaucoup mieux.
Je vais garder mon téléphone pour vous, juste au cas. ;)
SwissTorExit
merci beaucoup mon ami, assurément :D
Selcuk
dedectives wnats to know someting from you ?
becouse of you are exit server?
SwissTorExit
yeah for sure m8
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