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nsa
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mib_bja
Good evening, what is the page to check the tor connection?
Sebastian
https://check.torproject.org
mib_bja
Sebastian: thx, mibbit is letting me connect through tor, so i became suspicius :)
formalist
mibbit would "let" ...
waltman
In arm, what's the difference between an "inbound" connection and a "client" connection?
Wallet
Hi I heard this was tor's official channel
i've tried to connect to this network last few days
but it keeps saying no more hosts permitted
when using tor
xtoaster
many irc forbid open proxy
such as tor
Wallet
this wouldn't shouldn't though right?
         

xtoaster
it should be. since irc could be used to connect botnet and could be spamed easily by spammers behind proxy
Wallet
apparently you got your wish
#oftc just told me they'll continue to ban the entire tor network from here
aslong as the spammers continue...which could be uncontrolled and go on forever
xtoaster
hm. i am no op. but i think their worry makes sense :-)
yp. spapmmers just need to push the button and spam bots do the rest.
Wallet
the admins are trying to tell me, they network doesn't need tor
and that SSL is almost the same...
this isn't looking good, I hope one of you regulars can talk to them
otherwise tor might just be banned forever anyway
nsa
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SwissTorExit
morning to everyone :D
damn, that's start to be hard to join the last days, too much exit are banned in OFTC :/
G-Lo
SwissTorExit: tried to use the .onion adress?
SwissTorExit
yeah maybe but for that i must change my config, if i mail OFTC there delete the ban but there too much to mail there all days lol
Runa
SwissTorExit: yeah, I've heard that the administrators are getting a bit tired of abuse :/
SwissTorExit
hi Runa, yeah give too much work, the best will to ban auto but only for a time and after auto unabn
Runa
yeah
SwissTorExit
i think that's will teh best way, the admin are nice but many to do without read 300 mails ;)
formalist
is the number of hops to a hidden service five or six?
i never did quite under stand this.
understand.
nsa
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BarkerJr
you'll only ever see the hops to the rendevous point, though
formalist
of course.
presumably... client "a" -> entry -> middle -> rend -> middle -> entry -> service "b"
presumably... client "a" -> entry -> middle -> rend -> onion cloud -> service "b"
that's five hops, i think.
cantor
When I check if Im torred thru torcheck.torproject.org it says connect failed , Can anyone help me fix it please?
SwissTorExit
well, maybe not config your browser proprely
have you installed torbutton ?
and polipo or privoxy ?
cantor
Yes
I have privoxy
And Im using a university network
SwissTorExit
and torbutton ?
         

cantor
so it is a wan
Yes tobutton
The one that say enbale/disable tor on firefox right
SwissTorExit
no, if tor run , you must be able to browse
yep
cantor
Yea that is there
SwissTorExit
well, if you have right configured privoxy, it must work
cantor
It says 503 Connect Failed
SwissTorExit
what said : http://p.p/
you must have : This is Privoxy 3.0.13 on localhost (127.0.0.1), port 8118, enabled
cantor
Yes that is the message it printed
SwissTorExit
well, no idea in your case
cantor
I'll reinstall and see what happens
SwissTorExit: Also another question
SwissTorExit
cantor
okay
SwissTorExit
look your url wrong
cantor
It says sorry you are not using Tor
check.torproject.org said < Sorry you are not using Tor >
SwissTorExit
well, so it's the right url, now you must run Tor and it must said that all test are done
cantor
And goddamnit it showed my machine ip
Somewhere I really screwed up
SwissTorExit
well sometime it can be if are a new exit, it is your ip or another one ?
ah ok
cantor
SwissTorExit: Do you think
My ip
SwissTorExit
so read Tor FAQ, you must look about your torrc config
yeah, but you have said that's yours
cantor
SwissTorExit: I'll go thru the documentation and startover if still not working I'll come back for help
SwissTorExit: Are you going to around?
Well someone will be around right
SwissTorExit: one last question before that
SwissTorExit
nope be here, what said your Tor logs ?copy it via http://pastie.org/pastes/new
cantor
Okay one sec
SwissTorExit
brb
cantor
Oky
SwissTorExit
back
cantor
okay where do I get the logs from
/var/ something
SwissTorExit
well look in your torrc where are linked the log
depend, mine are on a special folder
cantor
Yeah I found it do you wan the last lines or the whole thing
SwissTorExit
you can use vidalia for exemple, it's easy to use and great to control Tor
whole
cantor
okay one sec
SwissTorExit
i don't think it's a big one ;)
cantor
No not that big 248 lines
I tried posting it there on pastie
But doesn't work
SwissTorExit
well so not all wait
only the first to the status of Tor and maybe the next
you run only as client right ?
cantor
Eh
I stopped tor and privoxy
Just posted the log
Do you see it?
SwissTorExit
nah give the link lol
cantor
http://pastie.org/816155
sorry LoL forgot
SwissTorExit
hang on
cantor
okay
Take your time, thank for you help SwissTorExit
SwissTorExit: I'll be in about 10 mins there's a phone call ( have to pick up this one )
SwissTorExit
well, give me your torrc too please, look like a bad config somewhere
cantor
k one sec
SwissTorExit
look like you have always stoped Tor
better will a devs or expert ;)
cantor
yeah
Then restarted
SwissTorExit
but why ? i don't get it, it must run to can see if are a problem, while it look like start good and you stop right after
cantor
SwissTorExit: Here is the torrc: http://pastie.org/816165
Sorry for late reply on the phone
SwissTorExit
ok just 1 min, i have a pv
cantor
ok
brb
formalist
haw. haw.
i don't see anything out of the ordinary in that torrc.
:)
SwissTorExit
yeah look good, just try to stay with Tor runiing
cantor
SwissTorExit: Hung up with, Im back now
Okay let me try that
SwissTorExit
me too
cantor
great
Will tell to that status in a sec
SwissTorExit
yep
cantor
Now both running privoxy and tor
I'll restart firefox
Ok
Now, still torcheck not using tor message
SwissTorExit
oh yeah, you have forget socks to config in your toorc i think too
but are not the reason
well look in torbutton config if it's right
cantor
Where is that to look?
torbutton config
SwissTorExit
click on the "tor" button down the page
but it must be correct
cantor
Woops, on the tor button when I checked preferences it is checked on the proxy settings to use polipo, but Im don't have polipo instead privoxy
I think that privoxy is not set up with torbuttor/tor config
SwissTorExit
well that's must be the same port anyway
but just to test, try to put http et https in 127.0.0.1:8118
and try check
cantor
Ok
on SOCKS host
SOCKSv5
SwissTorExit
nope, you have not config socks in your toorc
cantor
Oh I see, let me do that
ControlPort 8118 correct
Is that it
SwissTorExit
well sure you must add socks 9050 in torrc and after in privoxy add the command to use it and same in FF
no control port was right
cantor
Woops
SwissTorExit: What are the lines to add in torrc and commands to update them
SwissTorExit
no i say wrong sorry, you don't need change in torrc, only in privoxy
sorry
Sebastian_
formalist: 7 hops
SwissTorExit
hi Sebastian_ :D
cantor
All right, now it is ControlPort 9050 nothing changed in torrc
What is to be put in torrc
Sorry I got confused
Or, privoxy
Sebastian_
formalist: from the client side: client -> entry -> middle -> rend -> exit -> middle -> entry -> hs
reversed for the hs side.
formalist
oh. exit?
interesting.
SwissTorExit
cantor: that: forward-socks4a / 127.0.0.1:9050 .
formalist
i must have missed that.
Sebastian_
well, not exit. last node or whatever
SwissTorExit
somewhere
cantor
Like the line "forward-socks4a 127.0.0.1:9050" in the privoxy config
Sebastian_
formalist: the hidden service client chooses the rend node, so the hidden service needs a three-hop circuit to it for anonymity.
formalist
the only thing the hs doesn't know about the client's side is its middle and entry guard then.
SwissTorExit
yeah, copy paste mine
cantor
SwissTorExit: "forward-socks4a / 127.0.0.1:9050" is this the line to add
in privoxy config
Sebastian_
formalist: not true, it also doesn't know the client
formalist
"side" so to speak.
right.
SwissTorExit
yeah cantor
cantor
But it said when I restarted it " Wrong number of parameters " error
formalist
so hidden services bulid the standard 3-hop circuit with the rend node as the destination, but the client builds a circuit directly to the rend node.
not an exit node before the rend node.
Sebastian_
formalist: right. This is because the client chooses the rend node
formalist
oh.
okay.
intro nodes are where the rend node is negotaited?
Sebastian_
yes
basically it works like this:
(Let us play hidden service and client. I am the hs, you are the client. It's a fun game!)
formalist
:o
hoj44
are the Hidden Services change their Introduction Points frequently??
Sebastian_
I configure a hidden service, and my Tor tells me (in the hostname file) what address I should give out.
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