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ultramage
does tor have some manpage that explains compilation options? (I see freebsd's make config lists several odd options)
arma
you mean arguments to ./configure? no, i don't think there's documentation for that.
good thing configure.in is so readable. ;)
Sebastian
./configure --help helps.
jr__
ultramage: what are the options you have questions about?
arma
sebastian: excellent point
ultramage
hm :)
I'd have to extract the files instead of letting the ports manage the process
--enable-buf-freelists, --with-tcmalloc, --enable-transparent
jr__
the first two are memory management details
atagar
in the case of the freebsd ports aren't they horribly out of date (ie, a very bad idea)?
jr__
uhm, no
         

ultramage
atagar: tor-devel is 31.january 2010
jr__
ha ha ha
well
I guess its like 4 days old
atagar
checking the portinstall version, probalby remembering wrong
ultramage
I'll go see what the configure script says... and if it doesn't say much, I'll go check the src
jr__
the problem with ports is that their update process is horribly brittle
it ends up being easier to grab the list of ports, wipe, and then reinstall
ultramage
the tor port is 0.2.1.22, devel is 0.2.2.8-alpha
jr__
:<
ultramage
what do you mean by update process?
jr__
portupgrade
they don't have the build cluster that debian and redhat do
so sometimes port dependencies fall out of sync
atagar
yup, I'm wrong - 2.0.34 when I'd got it a few months back
ultramage
ha? dependencies fall out of sync? ... /me always uses portupgrade -air
jr__
ahh
well
ultramage
never had dependency issues :o
jr__
good for you
ultramage
(Action) starts installing tor on the old router box
jr__
I generally try not to fiddle with luserland
it doesn't always work out well for me
ultramage
tor depends on openssl-0.9.8l_4 depends on makedepend depends on xproto^C^C^C^C^C
ah well, I can uninstall it afterwards... hopefully it won't bring in any more junk
torifythenet
hi all
Then start/restart Tor daemon and then run Vidalia GUI.
It will ask Tor what auth modes it accepts and if everything is OK,
You will be asked for the password, in the example, 'SOME_PASSWORD_HERE'
(as you pass it with --hash-password, not the hash).
I did all that but it doesn't ask me for a password
is the README.Debian info file outdated?
LoRez
is that a rhetorical question?
torifythenet
rhetorical?
I set the controlport 9051 and hashedcontrolpassword in /etc/tor/torrc like it said to in readme.debian and it doesn't ask me for password when I start it up like it says it will in the readme file
         

LoRez
yeah, asking if debian is outdated seems like it would be rhetorical
torifythenet
its on ubuntu LoRez
using tor team's repository
why is tor refusing connections with firefox but not pidgin?
arma
perhaps your pidgin isn't actually using tor?
or perhaps your torbutton is screwed up. or your polipo.
ultramage
darnit, for some reason there's no rc script installed with thor... no idea what happened
arma
sounds like freebsd is confusing :)
jr__
s/freebsd/tor on freebsd/
yes
gouki
Does anyone know if the mailing lists accept unsubscribe or remove? Need to change the email that is subscribed.
seeess
yes it doe
s
unsubscribe i believe
gouki
Cool. I should be getting something back soon then.
arma
gouki: mail majordomo@seul.org, body 'unsubscribe or-talk'
don't send the unsubscribe request to the or-talk list. nobody will like that. :)
gouki
Hmmm ... I don't think I did, did I? Oh my ... :P
I actually have to unsubscribe from all of them, to subscribe again with another email.
arma, does it usually take this long? still nothing.
jr__
majordomo can be slow
gouki
Got it!
arma
my majordomo is pretty fast. it's my greylisting that will make it slow.
gouki
yeah, it's a lot more responsive now.
arma
https://trac.vidalia-project.net/ticket/558
wonder if this is user error, or conspiracy
one day it will be conspiracy. it's a shame we're becoming immune to it by so much user error.
ggg_
I have a serious problem.
I recently installed the development version of tor on my computer and now my ethernet connection will not work unless I'm connected through tor. Could anyone please help?
Sebastian
ggg_: please provide more info, like which bundle you installed onto which os, etc
ggg_
i installed the ubuntu torproject repo then installed it from there on my 9.10 os
Sebastian
following which instructions?
ggg_
the ones on torproject
Sebastian
hrm
there's nothing there that would change your ethernet connection
ggg_
what could explain this
Sebastian
hm, some kind of advanced configuration or messing with a firewal
l
gouki
arma, mind doing your magic again? Trying to subscribe to the lists now.
ggg_
i have no firewall because i run no services
what kind of "advanced configuration" may cause this?
gouki
nm, arma, just got the confirmation.
arma
ggg_: does ubuntu have a system-wide proxy setting? did you turn it on somehow?
ggg_
arma, Sebastian no, the system wide settings are set to have a direct connection. though i do use a vpn, but it hasnt been on.
nsa
or: sebastian committed revision 21567 (/website/trunk): Build the html manpage for the development versions of Tor from git
or: This will mean that once 0.2.2.x is stable, we won't need to
or: seperate checkouts anymore
ggg_
hello?
Sebastian
hello?
ggg_
can you help me any further?
Sebastian
no, else I would have replied.
arma
*ethernet* connection? meaning you can't ping local hosts anymore?
did you mess with your iptables rules?
ggg_
how do I ping a local host?
Sebastian
ok so did you follow any instructions that said anything about transparent proxying
ggg_
no
Sebastian
or was it just https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian and https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix
ggg_
i didnt mess with iptables
arma
well, you messed with *something* not tor related..
ggg_
Sebastian: yes those are the instructions i followed
i should have told you that wireless works as a direct connection
could anyone tell me how to revert to the stable version?
Sebastian
apt-get remove tor, edit /etc/apt/sources.list to not include the dev version anymore, apt-get update, apt-get install tor
torifythenet
what are some good alternatives to tor?
tor seems to be only good in nations where anonymity is legal
since they allow tor to be blockable
Sebastian
You should learn about bridges.
torifythenet
you talking to me?
Sebastian
also, even though many countries block Tor, it isn't necessarily illegal to use there.
Yes, I am.
torifythenet
the only bridges I know about is for over wifi
Sebastian
Tor bridges have nothing to do with wifi
torifythenet
I didn't say it was illegal
I mean where a country believes anonymity should be illegal
not specifically an application
Sebastian
My point is unaltered. Go learn about bridges.
torifythenet
what are tor bridges?
Sebastian
https://www.torproject.org/bridges
torifythenet
well I am making a distro for activists that want to be able to access any content no matter where they are to hide info that maybe illegal where they are but is legal in democratic nations
so this is good to learn
so far I just have a auto install script
that installs many anonymous p2p networks and file sharing networks
Sebastian
Tor is not a good choice if you want to do p2p.
also, bridges require manual configuration to be useful.
torifythenet
yes I know that
well I can add that to the help docs
anonymous networks and p2p file sharing networks
script installs tor, i2p, freenet. creates firefox profiles for tor, i2p, freenet. installs stegoshare, stealthnet, antz p2p, offsystem, oneswarm...etc
arma
odd kind of activist
most activists i know want simplicity and direction, not the kitchen sink
torifythenet
the activist needs his ways to spread his propaganda
well it is just a script for me to install everytime I upgrade to another distro so I don't have to do it manually
I am going to just remove some unnecessary packages and then use the script and next rebundle the distro
if some of the programs could be necessary I could setup a cron job that installs them after first bootup
or I could do a common thing that debian does but most distros don't put some software on another cd to be installed afterwards
then have a dvd version also
Sebastian
Is anyone around who knows how to build Tor on windows and has a few minutes of time? Windows Vista and Windows 7 users :)
torifythenet
is it easy to do compared to gnu/linux?
like compiling programs
Sebastian
it is trivial on linux, and pretty hard on windows
torifythenet
I will do it if it isn't too difficult
hmm
well I know a programmer
I was surprised he didn't like linux
Sebastian
for non-tor chatter we have #nottor, please join and we can talk
torifythenet
I would have thought compiling programs would have been easy for him
what free programs would you recommend to build tor on? Sebastian
is there any descent programs for that?
Sebastian
we have instructions in the source for different platforms
mingw is used on windows, I believe.
torifythenet
instead of visual studio
well I have compiled programs on linux
but you said windows is hard
so perhaps it is for some but maybe I will find it easy who knows
:)
ggg
hello?
test
torifythenet
hi
ggg
that didnt fix anything :(
torifythenet
welcome to the mysterious world of tor ggg
ggg
mysterious?
Sebastian
ggg: it isn't a Tor problem most likely, as we thought.
ggg
ok
thank for the help
Sebastian
sorry we couldn't help you
torifythenet
I never compiled on windows before
how much longer would it take to install lets say firefox on the same hardware on windows versus linux? Sebastian
ggg
np
torifythenet
like does windows generally take longer?
nsa
or: sebastian committed revision 21568 (/website/trunk): Update Makefile for how to set up the TORGIT var
or: pootle committed revision 21569 (/projects/gettor/i18n/pt_BR): translations from pootle
or: pootle committed revision 21570 (/translation/trunk/projects/torbutton/pt_BR): translations from pootle
or: pootle committed revision 21571 (/translation/trunk/projects/website): translations from pootle
or: runa committed revision 21572 (/website/trunk): updated translations as wml
or: runa committed revision 21573 (/translation/trunk/projects/website): updated files for pootle
or: sebastian committed revision 21574 (/website/trunk/docs/de): Fix small spelling mistake
ultramage
what the heck happened then? >_>
Runa
hm?
ultramage
make && make install, and no rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d
(in freebsd's /usr/ports/security/tor-devel)
hmm, I think I see now
it did not apply the tor.in patch
I don't see it registered among the installed packages either -.-
okay, easy way to fix this... reinstalling properly ;P
hm, trying out hidden services... 4/5 times I get a connection timeout (not good)
this is odd
[warn] Failed to parse/validate config: ControlPort must be defined if ControlListenAddress is defined.
docs: ControlListenAddress IP[:PORT] Bind the controller listener to this address. If you specify a port, bind to this port rather than the one specified in ControlPort.
isn't this sort of useless?
I guess this is how the option parser is implemented I guess
edeca_
Well I don't know how it works, but if it parses port from another variable, it should just set ControlPort surely?
southland
Halo? are any Tor devloper here?
if yes I want to say, I love you and I love Tor. I shut up now.
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