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nsa
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-02-20 23:35:19 [tor/master]: Merge remote branch 'public/cbt-status'
or: Mike Perry <mikeperry-git@fscked.org>: 2009-12-29 03:17:12 [tor/master]: Allow "EXTENDCIRCUIT 0" to omit a path.
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-02-18 17:32:11 [tor/master]: Make more arguments in control.c properly case-insensitive.
or: Mike Perry <mikeperry-git@fscked.org>: 2010-01-22 00:10:02 [tor/master]: Move CBT params into consensus.
or: Mike Perry <mikeperry-git@fscked.org>: 2010-01-11 18:16:50 [tor/master]: Add an event for a case where we drop guards.
or: Mike Perry <mikeperry-git@fscked.org>: 2010-02-10 20:25:06 [tor/master]: Describe the recent timeouts reallocation behavior.
or: Mike Perry <mikeperry-git@fscked.org>: 2009-12-25 11:42:35 [tor/master]: Add BUILDTIMEOUT_SET event for CBT stress testing.
or: Mike Perry <mikeperry-git@fscked.org>: 2010-02-18 17:40:15 [tor/master]: Add changelog entry for CBT testing work.
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-02-18 17:47:42 [tor/master]: Future-proof the control protocol by ignoring unrecognized keyword args
mikeperry
yays!
nsa
or: mikeperry committed revision 21710 (/torctl/trunk/python/TorCtl):
or: Handle the return of an empty network status doc.
or: mikeperry committed revision 21711 (/torctl/branches/stable/python/TorCtl):
or: Handle the return of an empty network status doc.
atagar
Can relays be used as exits without the exit flag? Ie, can I identify if a relays an exit via flags or should I use the exit policy?
mikeperry
exit policy
flags are only used for load balancing calculations
exit policy is what actually governs which nodes to use
are you using TorCtl for node selection?
or planning on using a controller in general?
atagar
Gotcha, thanks - I'm trying to hide connections that might belong to exit traffic.
What about entry points? Does a relay only receive client connections if it has the 'guard' flag or is a bridge?
mikeperry
it only receives client connections from *standard* clients if it is a bridge or has the guard flag
however, nonstandard clients, including ones that use tor controllers to control their paths, can do whatever they want
atagar
Sebastian: have a good scheme for removing objectionable content that'll address your concerns (ie, after the next commit you can stop saying 'arm is evil') - see 'http://tor.pastebin.com/m1f3f76d3' for details (and let me know if you'd like the warning strengthened somehow)
subbie3
are there any hidden services n Tor which don't suck
         

synx
subbie3: http://2cforvw2mwtqcl2m.onion/art/~page/2d8c
subbie3
ok what the fu*k was all that about
synx
well you asked... tank beaver answered
subbie3
ohhhhhhh
im slow lol
do you know if galx has a guest password?
the site linked off the hidden wiki
synx
Never saw it before...
subbie3
ok
i thought there would be sh*tloads of people on here
there is, but theyre not at there computers lol
synx
guess so subbie3
I don't have much resources to put into stuff on TOR. Mostly I do i2p sort of stuff.
But Freenode and OFTC don't have i2p addresses, yet they do have TOR ones.
mete1989
uptime: 1-12:42:58 but my bridge hasn't the flag stable? :(
jn
mete1989: Great that it is still up. It takes more than a day to be marked stable, nothing to worry about.
Compiling with the latest OpenSSL and OpenBSD malloc really helps on machines with little memory.
mete1989
jep
33% mem it uses currently
before it used ~80% after 1days
day ^
jn: currently I'm testing with RelayBandwidthRate 1024 KBytes RelayBandwidthBurst 1024 KBytes
if that works a few days stabl, I will test 1500 and so on...
jn
I think RelayBandwidthBurst should be set higher than RelayBandwidthRate. Otherwise why set it at all?
mete1989
what you mean with "Otherwise why set it at all?"?
set it to my line speed?
jn
I mean a little higher than RelayBandwidthRate, or comment out that line from the config.
mete1989
ok
I set it to 1500
is that ok?
or 1200?
jn
It depends on the connection. Try 1500.
mete1989
connection is 1/1gbit
do you know how I can send a HUP signal without the init script? ;)
jn
pkill -HUP tor
mete1989
hmmh
I've chaged burst speed in torrc
but arm says: Bandwidth (cap: 1 MB, burst: 1 MB):
jn
restart arm?
mete1989
I startet it after I sent the hup signal ;)
I've startet arm only to check the values ;)
         

jn
Ok, maybe someone else know. I do not use arm.
mete1989
in the log file I don't see the HUP signal
hmmh
mobo
hi all
anyone have some nice tor sites to share please?
weasel
www.torproject.org is neat
Sebastian
atagar: hah, awesome!
BarkerJr
jn: I was told that bsd malloc configure option didn't do much anymore
jn
BarkerJr: Very possible. I tried it together with a new openssl at the same time so I can tell what made the huge difference. But I would guess openssl.
BarkerJr
hmm, does openssl help with the cpu usage, too?
formalist
is there anything i can do the reach a hidden service which i know to be fully operation yet always turns up as "unavailable" in the tor log?
torq
anybody alive?
steffan
torq: hopefully.
formalist
hi, torq.
torq
:)
is there any way to tell tor not to use the current exit again?
formalist
maybe.
use the ExcludeNodes function in torrc?
torq
formalist: not via torrc, but just for the current session
formalist
session?
torq
cause tor seems to be blocked a lot and I often get the same exit repeatedly
formalist
do you use vidalia or something?
torq
formalist: the windows bundle
formalist
maybe you should decrease the MaxCircuitDirtiness in torrc.
the default is 600 seconds.
torq
formalist: I'll take a look at that, thanks
jn
BarkerJr: No idea, cpu usage has not been a problem for me.
torq
formalist: so if I set it to eg 10, I would't have the same exit/circuit re-used?
formalist
torq. it would be considerably less likely.
but it depends on what port the content you're trying to access is.
or even ip address.
torq
formalist: ok, cool. it's annoying if you have to keep on getting a new identity because the current exit is glined
formalist
there's also the NewCircuitPeriod option in torrc. i suppose a lower value for it helps too.
torq
formalist: perhaps a dev could add a patch that adds a "get new identity and ignore current exit" button :)
formalist
haha.
Sebastian
formalist: no. Decreasing MaxCircuitDirtiness won't help at all.
it only increases load on Tor
same goes for NewCircuitPeriod. Those settings won't address torq's concerns at all
formalist
okay.
is there anything i can do the reach a hidden service which i know to be fully operational yet always turns up as "unavailable" in the tor log?
Sebastian
How do you know it is fully operational? Does it work from somewhere else?
formalist
yes.
Tas
tunnel to the site from which it works ;-)
Sebastian
formalist: are the Tor versions the same in both places?
formalist
not likely.
Tas ;)
Tas
hehe
Sebastian
formalist: it would be good to learn the versions.
formalist
i trust the person who says something is reachable.
it is not , however, my actual self.
:/
Sebastian
Well, so it is possible that you're on the alpha version of Tor, which cannot access very old hidden services anymore.
Maybe the hidden service in question uses a very old Tor version.
Your friend might use an old version, too
or you are the one who uses the old version
that would be a simple explanation
the other explanation is that there's a bug, but that's hard to track down.
Tas
maybe ask us here if we can reach the hidden service if it's not secret
Sebastian
Tas: It sure sounds secret :)
Tas
ah ok :-)
formalist
it's a torchat address.
mmm...
(Action) goes to consorteth with the others.
Sebastian
formalist: the best thing would be to ask the hs operator what version it is.
formalist
okay.
Sebastian
(what version of Tor are you running, btw?)
bbl
Parakeep
nickm: Why K_NETWORK_STATUS_VERSION defined as T1? It must be T1_START for both token tables, for vote and consensus.
arma: Why K_NETWORK_STATUS_VERSION defined as T1? It must be T1_START for both token tables, for vote and consensus.
atagar
mete1989: arm should give a notice when a HUP signal is received and update the values (if it doesn't then I'd be curious about the cause)
Sebastian: unfortunately it'll probably take a couple weeks to implement (some parts might be a little tricky to test and have family this weekend)
also, on second thought going with scrubbing rather than complete removal, leaving connection type (inbound/outbound) and uptime - these are useful for determining if restrictive outbound firewall policy is being problematic
mete1989
atagar
root@gbz02:~# kill -HUP 31630
root@gbz02:~#
18:26:20 [NOTICE] Received reload signal (hup). Reloading config and resetting internal state.
but the burst falue don't change
!
mib_5bhcar
Eyo, i just installed Tor and i would wanna ask somebody about some stuff :)
steffan
mib_5bhcar: you can just ask :)
mib_5bhcar
mm yeah :)
like..
i just installed it, with torr bottom and everything, and it seems to work nice, it says its Enabled and stuff, internet goes a bit slow but thats what comes with it i guess :)
but like.. my question is.. now when it says its enabled.. is that it? is it something more i maybe have to do also? like import a proxy list or something or do the program have all that already and sort of random choose a proxy? :)
anyone understand my question? :)
steffan
no importing a proxy list. it works as per http://www.torproject.org/overview.html.en
mib_5bhcar
hmm.. btw, is Tor making my ip adress.. hiden? or well, not hiden, but it kind of spoof it?:)
im sry im a bit noob :s xD :)
rudi_s
mib_5bhcar: Check the torproject.org and wikipedia page to see what Tor is.
mib_5bhcar
okay, it isnt a ip spoofer, it just let my internet traffic go threw something ells on the way to the destination?
synx
mib_5bhcar: check http://whatismyip.org to see if it's working
TOR is a relaying network yes
Mikato
hi there
hehe
jk
atagar
mete1989: just tried and checked the source, everything looks fine (burst changed)
have you checked that you're changing the right torrc? The path's listed in the torrc page
mete1989
yes, I've changed the right config ;)
atagar
On the torrc page what does it show for the 'RelayBandwidthBurst'? Is it in red? Is it the value you're expecting?
mete1989
what page you mean? :S
atagar
page 3 (the one that shows your torrc)
it does torrc validation so if it doesn't match tor's status it highlights the errors in red
mete1989
ys all ok in on page 3
98 RelayBandwidthRate 1024 KBytes # Throttle traffic to 100KB/s (800Kbps)
99 RelayBandwidthBurst 1300 KBytes # But allow bursts up to 200KB/s (1600Kbps)
atagar
one sec, I'll try a sighup with those values
mete1989
the descriptors are green, the values blue/green
realy name is "Mete"
"mete" sorry
dun
http://torstatus.all.de/router_detail.php?FP=08a070f7d44550a2e0bd032d89d75c5d761a02ce <- bandwidth looks good?
mete1989
hmmh, there it looks right
atagar
mete1989: just tried and the bandwidth panel switched to 1MB cap and burst - that's not what you're seeing?
mete1989
:
nope
I see arm I see 1/mb
atagar
yes, it should be 1MB
mete1989
hmmh
no
it should me 1/1.3mb
atagar
oooooooh, that's your issue - does integer truncation
I can see where a little more precision would be nice - I'll make that change (it's a trivial fix)
mete1989
so what I've to do? xD
atagar
one sec and I'll give ya the line number
mete1989
ok xD
atagar
in 'interface/bandwidthMonitor.py' lines 50 and 51 add ", 1" near the end (see http://tor.pastebin.com/m2f206dda)
mete1989
hmmh atagar
# dummy values for static data
self.isAccounting = False
self.bwRate, self.bwBurst = -1, -1
self.resetOptions()
that are my current values
so delete the self.bwRate line and put the other two in here?
ah
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