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weasel
what you are asking is about pointless bikeshedding and holy wars.
there is no right and no wrong answer. all you do is suck up time.
and neither is it on-topic here how the tor project runs their infrastructure.
have a nice day.
Malkovich
night
I just want to know what kind of platform
Do you have one of it?
calwig
I just want to know what kind of platform (.......) <--- youre missing something
Malkovich
used to up this main nodes
no war, man, one love
Sebastian
will everyone shut up, please.
Malkovich
i will
calwig
n't use vidalia on linux
22:51 < calwig> why dont you
22:58 -!- qbiort [~jens@83TAAADL7.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #nottor
ta heck
sorry
nsa
or: Christopher Davis <chrisd@mangrin.org>: 2010-01-31 22:57:41 [polipo/1.0.4-branch]: Declare 31 January 2010 1.0.4.1 release day.
wtf
Tor website being hijacked?
please see these screen shots of http torproject.org
http://imagebin.org/82768
and this one of some front-end redirector: on http torproject.org
what is "vescum"? http://imagebin.org/82767
and this one is a self-signed cert to some fake dnsbl site? http://imagebin.org/82769
while the https torproject.org, the real site is sitll up? WTF? am I crazy or is something amiss?
http://imagebin.org/82770
         

BarkerJr
the site looks fine for me
wtf
there isn't supposed to be http://torproject.org
and what is "vescum"? http://imagebin.org/82767
BarkerJr
no, and there isn't by me... it redirects to www
wtf
and a self-singed cert?
look at my screen shots from 5 minutes ago
BarkerJr
right, but I'm not seeing that when I visit those URLs
wtf
now it's redirecting to www. error, but it wasn't
BarkerJr
what IP does torproject.org resolve to?
wtf
I haven't looked beucase it doens't matter
BarkerJr
k
wtf
there was something wrong, and now it's gone?
there should be no http torproject.org and yet there was!?!
BarkerJr
I can't answer that for you... I have nothing to do with the site
wtf
and it's like a mirror of the real tor site. OK no one seeme to care so I'll go away now.
barkerjr: yea I know. I wasn't referring to you, but to those who are not speaking up in the room
thanks anyway barkerjr, i guess it doesn't matter if someone is trying to setup a rouge Tor website and possibly trying to fool people into downloading and using hacked Tors
BarkerJr
hey, I got a dns error to torproject.us
er wrong domain
ignore me :)
wtf
ha. ok thanks for trying tho. I bet it's just like I described, or some honey pot to harvest IPs who are interested in Tor. China, Iran, anyone else?
wtf? it's hapnneing again! http://torproject.org is vescum and http://www.torproject.org is a mirror !.
barkerjr are you seeing this?
BarkJr
that was weird
wtf
IP Address 38.229.70.16   86.59.21.36  
Klosterneuburg, Austria
http://www.torproject.org
ISP Performance Systems International AS Number AS23028
BarkerJr
right, so vescum.torproject.org is misconfigured
wtf
is vescum legit?
and why a self-signed cert?
phobos
vescum and byblos are mirrors of each other
and neither are self-signed certs
wtf
http://db.torproject.org/machines.cgi?host=vescum
         

BarkerJr
it's probably just that someone forgot to configure the default site to redirect to www.torproject.org
wtf
db.torproject.org uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
phobos
http://torproject.org should rewrite to https://www.torproject.org
wtf
OK. as long as everything is fine I'm happy.
yes phobos that is what worried me originally
BarkerJr
phobos, tell vescum that :P
wtf
I new there should be no http only https
phobos
there is http
because lots of people hit http://www.torproject.org
wtf
scicne when? I thought for a while now you re-direct to https from http?
phobos
smart people hit https://
we've always had http://www.tpo
only people who hit torproject.org get redirected to https://
wtf
Yea I just thought for a while now it re-directed to https
oh, ok. thanks
maybe everyone should redirected? why not?
BarkerJr
should I drop an email to tor-webmasters?
phobos
because ssl is blocked in some countries
so http://www.torproject.org and https://www.torproject.org will continue to exist
vescum has the same digicert as byblos
wtf
ah. Ok thanks for clearing it up. I stop bother you all now :)
phobos
frankly, i'd rather use self-signed certs
instead of wasting money on the ssl mafia payments
wtf
I wonder why I get the cert error then?
phobos
digicert is a chained cert, maybe the chain is broken somewhere
wtf
What about the free community driven cert authority? I forget it's name.
phobos
cacert
wtf
yea thats it. Is it a no go?
phobos
except, they're worse since very few OSes nor browsers recognize it
wtf
yea good point. Thanks a lot for the hand holding.
phobos
i think we'll find a cert provider that doesn't hand out chained certs
since they seem to break in odd ways
wtf
yea and it's freaks out people like me when it does, ha
phobos
BarkerJr: i think the answer to your email is "it is supposed to do that"
BarkerJr
if it was, then why's the other server act differently? :P
phobos
there, fixed
I think
or not
found it
now http://tpo -> http://www.tpo
and https://tpo -> https://www.tpo
BarkerJr
gj :)
nsa
or: phobos committed revision 21541 (/website/trunk/vidalia/en): vidalia 0.2.7 win32 msi now available, add link for instructions for
or: debian/ubuntu/knoppix vidalia repo.
or: phobos committed revision 21542 (/website/trunk/docs/en): add vidalia instructions for using deb.torproject.org
or: phobos committed revision 21543 (/website/trunk/vidalia/en): point vidalia at debian-vidalia
or: phobos committed revision 21544 (/website/trunk/docs/en): regexs gone crazy.
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-02-01 03:48:29 [tor/maint-0.2.1]: Revise OpenSSL fix to work with OpenSSL 1.0.0beta*
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-02-01 03:53:19 [tor/master]: Merge remote branch 'origin/maint-0.2.1'
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-02-01 03:53:40 [tor/master]: add a2x intermediate files to gitignore
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-02-01 03:48:29 [tor/master]: Revise OpenSSL fix to work with OpenSSL 1.0.0beta*
nickm
There. shiny fresh commits, complete with snarky speculation on the motives and character of the openssl dev team.
soldier007
sup
everyone
echelon
hi, not much
strange, i used the .onion address of oftc to arrive here
but it says.. Found your IP: [ip of exit node]
but shouldn't if it's on the hidden service, shouldn't it be 127.0.0.1
bleh
soldier007
(Action) shrugs
Sebastian
what is your "exit node" with a hidden service.
echelon
:s/shouldn't//i
well i didn't think there was one
but it shows the ip of an exit node
Sebastian
maybe the hidden service runs on that node?
echelon
maybe :)
should there be any added concerns if i were to change the max circuit build timeout in the source?
soldier007
can I get a few good .onion links from you guys
or show me where to go to ask
echelon
http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion/
here's a mirror.. http://www.maxmusings.net/
soldier007
trying now thanks
I find that most often the link sites I find are full of dead urls
calwig
Hello Ladies and Gentelmen
dawm
hello
nsa
or: pootle committed revision 21545 (/translation/trunk/projects/website/zh_CN): updated files from pootle
or: runa committed revision 21546 (/website/trunk): updated translations
papul
hi guys :D
Runa
hi :)
papul
Runa, aren't u using tor?
Runa
papul: not at the moment
papul
ko
ok
nsa
or: runa committed revision 21547 (/translation/trunk/projects/website): updated po files for pootle
or: pootle committed revision 21548 (/projects/gettor/i18n): updated files from pootle
or: pootle committed revision 21549 (/translation/trunk/projects/torbutton): updated files from pootle
or: pootle committed revision 21550 (/translation/trunk/projects/torcheck/en): updated files from pootle
TopQuark
anyone awake?
qbiort
TopQuark: no ;)
TopQuark
im trying to use Tor in irc, ive made the changes to mIRC as the web sites says, but i get a msg saying 'Firewall: Unable to connect to firewall'
im using zonealarm for firewall
`Orum
tor is your firewall
according to mIRC
did you set the proxy up correctly?
TopQuark
Protocol: Socks5 hostname: 120.0.0.1 port: 9050
adam-44
Hello. I have a question that is indirectly connected to Tor. As a democracy fighter in my country, I've been using Tor for some time and thanks to it I felt safe in my communication.
Lately the idea struck me that a simple keylogger could totally ruin my such security.
In a hurry I removed everything and did not even check my system.
I only remember I ran rootkitrevealer.
I wonder if anybody would be kind enough to interpret what I remember from the output.
Runa
adam-44: I can try? Just put the output on http://pastebin.ca and give me the link :)
johnhans
adam-44: which country is that controlling?
Runa
adam-44: I'm guessing he's not going to tell :)
s/adam-44/johnhans/
johnhans
true
:P
TopQuark
anyone have expereince with mIRC, Tor, & ZoneAlarm?
Runa
TopQuark: you could try to send an email to or-talk
adam-44
Runa: thank you. I do not have the actual output. I recall it was a 'Hidden from the windows API message' about the cmd.exe-xxxxx.pf file in the Windows prefetch directory.
TopQuark
Tor-talk?
adam-44
I do know it is often a false positive but it's still strange as I did use cmd.exe many times so the prefetch must have been there.
Runa
TopQuark
im just having problems using Tor on mIRC
it says Firewall: Unable to connect to firewall
Runa
TopQuark: have you tried to turn ZoneAlarm off?
TopQuark
i try it real quick
Runa: ok, i turned ZoneAlarm off, but i get the same message
so its not ZoneAlarm
Runa
TopQuark: the hostname that you should use is 127.0.0.1
TopQuark
Runa: it is set to that
port: 9050
Runa
TopQuark: you said '120.0.0.1' earlier
TopQuark
Runa, you are correct, i mistyped it when i entered it, im always doing that, thanks
Runa
is it working now? :)
TopQuark
yes, sort of, im getting a msg saying 'AUTO [3] Host used for flooding.
-
[04:35am] Closing Link: TopQuark by Montreal.QC.CA.Undernet.org (G-lined)
Runa
ah, yeah, not all networks like Tor
TopQuark
but i thought undernet allowed tor
Runa
apparently not :)
TopQuark
ok, maybe the gline expired, cause now i get too many connections from your host
i got in on another server
Runa
great :)
TopQuark
thanks Runa
Runa
np
TopQuark
im always transposing number like that
Runa
happens to everyone :)
TopQuark
i should know better, im a coder
Runa
pfft, even coders make mistakes
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