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ln5
caching of dylibs in osx are more complicated that i had hoped, see f.ex. the manpage for update_dyld_shared_cache
to complicate matters, things seem to have changed in the dylib arena with osx 10.6, see DYLDINFO(1)
nickm: i'll see if i can find a clean 10.6 tomorrow, and by clean i mean not having macports installed, and then see if i can make tor work (with the 2010-00001 security patch, ofcourse).
marcus
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20100127/twitter-working-thwart-censorship.htm
phobos
perhaps twitter wants to talk to us
beyond circumvention, to protect the privacy of those tweeting in hostile places
like tehran and pittsburgh
marcus
Yeah, I seem to find it suspect if Twitter doesn't know about some of the technology already in the wild.
Has the EFF Panopticlick project been mentioned yet?
Very interesting project on browser fingerprinting.
ln5
marcus: yes, jn and pde discussed a bug in #nottor this morning.
calwig
Hello everyone, how is the issue with the penetration from a few days ago.. Everything in order or should we do any more updates?
wseltzer
phobos: I'm happy to do an intro to Twitter's new GC
Sebastian
calwig: not sure what you mean?
calwig
Sebastian: I mean the issue a few days ago with the individual or hacker who got into the Tor servers
         

Sebastian
ah
well, no
if you updated to 0.2.1.22, that's all for now
xtoaster
hi everyone morning
calwig
pool/main/t/tor/tor_0.2.1.22-1~hardy+1_i386.deb
hi xtoaster
Sebastian: looks like so
icecream
i am getting a very frequent, intermittent "502 Server dropped connection" error when trying to view pages. does anyone know please how to fix this?
could this have anything to do with a VPN I connect through? tor connects at startup directly to the internet but I dont know what happens once the vpn connects.
hello?
bja
icecream: be patient, someone will appear that can answear your question. It beats me :(
icecream
thanks
CoCo-_-Bear
why does torbutton silently experience crashes and recover and spill this into .xsession-errors but not anywhere in X?
n8fr8
evening everyone. has or is anyone running a jabber/xmpp server as a hidden service?
CoCo-_-Bear
n8fr8: no but that's a good idea
n8fr8: I'd like to do this for an intranet
marcus_: I see you. :D
marcus_
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CoCo-_-Bear
(Action) waves closed umbrella at marcus
spartacus: hello
spartacus
howdy!
CoCo-_-Bear
(Action) rubs himself
too bad NBC owns the bear now
nsa
or: Sebastian Hahn <sebastian@torproject.org>: 2010-01-27 21:11:42 [tor/master]: Fix comments for getinfo_helper_t
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-01-27 22:08:04 [tor/master]: Proposal 169: Eliminate TLS renegotiation
or: Nick Mathewson <nickm@torproject.org>: 2010-01-28 05:04:45 [tor/master]: The name for the proposal status of 151 is "finished", not "Implemented"
keb
the proposal is complete vs the proposal is implemented vs the proposal is garbage...
nickm
is that a question?
keb
an inane musing, prompted by too much coffee. the question if any could be settled by reading the proposal itself and the changelog :/
nickm
ah. Actually, check out proposal 001-process.txt
http://gitweb.torproject.org/tor/tor.git/blob/HEAD:/doc/spec/proposals/001-process.txt
In particular, the section called "Proposal status"
"Implemented" would actually be a better name for the "Finished" status, but "Finished" is what we picked back when we started doing proposals rather than inline comments in the spec.
keb
handy
those words look as good as any for that purpose
rieo
kludges is trobles. if not today so tommorow.
         

keb
duct tape holds the real world together
rieo
another version: the real worlds rests on the snots.
videludisto
hi
how do I download from firefox safely?
cool tor recommends most of the addons I use already
:)
nsa
or: runa committed revision 21513 (/website/trunk): translated wml files with correct charset
BenL
tut, tut, stupid Apple
arobaz
hello
got a problem with tor on ubuntu
tor won't run properly
with virbox
virtubox£
Runa
arobaz: can you define "won't run properly"? You can paste the output of the log to http://pastebin.ca
arobaz
got no log in it
ps_
why people don't want to run a relay? why it is not 'default'? i assume this is because they're afraid of being accused. is this correct?
if yes, then why do not inject 'TOR' string to UserAgent on each outgoing http stream?
Runa
ps_: not everyone can run a relay
ps_: for example, my connection would be blocked if I did it
ps_
ISP block?
Runa
yes (my ISP is also the university here, so)
ps_
i see
Runa
I think that people don't run relays because they don't know what it means
ps_
relay of course mean exit nodes?
relays*
i think intermediate relays are no problem
kc_sebastian
not necessarily
many ISPs have contracts that explicitly disallow you from running any services, period
webmind
a relay is just an intermediate node right? so just encrypted input and output?
Runa
ps_: a relay can be either an exit or a first/middle node
kc_sebastian
this is rarely enforced, but it is in the contract nonetheless
webmind
ah
ps_
Runa: so what's the problem with middle relays?
they're also blocked?
Runa
ps_: and many ISPs aren't too happy about people who share their bandwidth with a lot of other people
ps_: yes, my connection would be blocked because of what looks like virus/botnet or something like that
ps_
so it will be blocked also if you'd use BitTorrent?
Runa
ps_: not by default, but there is a 10GB/24hours upload/download quota here
ps_
kc_sebastian: 'services' you mean tcp server or any traffic like p2p, mail. etc?
Runa: i see, this indeed is pita
Runa
ps_: correct
ps_: but it would be sad if I couldn't run Tor simply because I can't be a relay
kc_sebastian
ps_, I mean email, p2p, etc
ps_
i see
kc_sebastian
another quite valid concern is that there are some anonymity attacks that probably work better when you're a relay.
not everyone wants to stand out as a Tor user
athaba
phobos: are you there?
I am creating an IRC bot to give away bridges. Anyone knows a good way of reading getting the data? Uploading data encrypted and signed, add bridges per command, getting them from a file, via HTTP or what does make sense?
arma
getting them from a file, and then putting them in that file using some separate program, is 'the unix way'
nsa
or: Sebastian Hahn <sebastian@torproject.org>: 2010-01-27 20:05:01 [tor/master]: Fix building the tarball
or: Sebastian Hahn <sebastian@torproject.org>: 2010-01-28 07:59:20 [tor/master]: Make sure docdir is defined when making doc/
or: sebastian committed revision 21514 (/projects/todo): my branches were merged
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