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Artnez_
if you fall asleep at work, or dont show up
you deserve to be fu*ked
tek_
Artnez_, drugs, addictions, not going to work
Artax
if you are screwed by something out your contro. the GOv does help you
mattmcc
b1n0ry: Alright, so now they're prone to committing crimes to support themselves, which increases the workload for police.
Artax
if you fu*k yourself up.. you deserve what you get
Artnez_
true that
b1n0ry
mattmcc: then there's a shortage of people in the police force. let the jobless go through the academy and get jobs there.
Artnez_
Lincoln said something really smart once, "The harder I try, the luckier I get."
Artax
how are you proe to do anything.. like committing crimes?
         

b1n0ry
it's how the markets move
Artnez_
b1n0ry: that's what the military is for
TML
b1n0ry: Actually, I think your line is "Let them eat 'cake'."
Artax
as bad as peopel say stuff is everyone does have a fair shot
mattmcc
Artax: You have no home, no money, and can't get a job. You need to survive. What do you do?
b1n0ry
TML: yep
Artax
go to a shelter
b1n0ry
you poop your pants, you sit in it
Artax
how do you have no home, no money?
tek_
mattmcc: what everyone where I live does, get welfare
mattmcc
Artax: No, we stopped funding shelters, b1n0ry said they're out of luck.
Artax
again.. how do you have no home/money?
mattmcc
tek_: Nope, we don't do that anymore, it's tough luck under b1n0ry capitalism.
itrebal
Artax: if you dont have a home, its *very* hard to get back on your feet
Artax
go to the military
TML
mattmcc: Hmm...I had no home and no money, and managed to find a job regardless.
Artnez_
mattmcc: you have to be more descriptive... depends on your age.. age is a big deal
tek_
mattmcc: I get your logic, you don't have to preach to me i'm just helping you
Artnez_
if your in your mid 30s, your fu*ked
b1n0ry
mattmcc: well, what i would do... i would go to the local YMCA and take residence where they give me use of a telephone. i would go to local library and use the internet to search job boards and do some research. as a final resort, i would join the military.
         

Artax
no home, no money, no citizenship you cna get a job look at s. California
Artnez_
very hard to 'start' a career once you get past 34
if you're in your mid 20s or below, you'll be okay as long as you work your way up
mattmcc
b1n0ry: My point is that it is in the government's interest to support its citzens.
Artnez_
otherwise, kiss your ass goodbye
tek_
mattmcc: you suppose, no matter what it is?
Artnez_
and get used to living broke
Artax
no.. its a citizens interest to support citizens
b1n0ry
mattmcc: i agree, but there's a difference between supporting citizens and repeatedly throwing money at stupid people
mattmcc
b1n0ry: Education, particularly, is critical. The more you put into education, the more you save on welfare, police, the prison system, etc.
Artnez_
mattmcc: forget about it. education will never prosper in this country.
mattmcc
Artax: One might say that, ideally, the government is the people. ;)
Naturally we can't live in an ideal world, but that's another matter.
zircu
thus written.. we the people..
Artnez_
school teachers are dumb as dogsh*t because they themselves know nothing. college/uni educations mean total sh*t except for the fact that you have a piece of paper that says 'hey i paid my dues now give me a job'
b1n0ry
i know people that live in florida. they don't have insurance on their home. why? because they are so conditioned and confident that the red cross and donations will help them if they lose their home that they don't even take the incentive to take care of themselves. supporting a person like that is very different than supporting a person who at least takes the initiative to help themselves.
tek_
Artnez_ you have no way to say that. There are plenty of well educated people in tis room right now
Artnez_
and even then you'll get some entry level sh*t job
TML
mattmcc: Sure, it was a crap job cleaning up on construction sites, but I worked up to where I was doing the construction, then operating the equipment, then went to work at a mine operating the same equipment while I "cross-trained" myself in being a Assayist, did that for a while until I managed to teach myself computer programming.
Artnez_
tek_: yes, there are. educated by their own free will. they didn't teach you PHP in high school.
TML
mattmcc: And I'm firmly of the opinion that if I can do it, so can anyone else with the will.
mattmcc
Artnez_: That just returns to why it's important to spend money on education. Why are our teachers not the greatest? We pay them sh*t.
tek_
Artnez_ right, but how does that become the coutnries fault if someone choose ignorance?
Artnez_
it all depends on the person, and capitalism does not promote education
tek_
nor the educational systems fault
b1n0ry
we live in a country that's built on gambling. some win, some lose. more lose than win. oh well, that's the gamble.
root404
Can anyone see anything wrong with http://pastebin.com/571014?
without the ?
tek_
I learned plenty in school being that I applied myself, it's purely a choice public education can be beneficial. as I think einstein says? don't let school get in the way of your education
Artnez_
tek_: its not the countries fault, its the people's fault for accepting a system of government that does not promote good education (not that its bad)
nitishp
Artnez_: Actually, my high school offers PHP..
b1n0ry
anyway, it's after 5. i gotta be getting home. got a weekend ahead of me.
itrebal
Artnez_: one of the other schools will teach you PHP
Artnez_
itrebal: i'm sure there are schools like that out there
tek_
Artnez_ what kids in your school would EVER want to learn PHP?
TML
root404: Well, for starters, pick a different delimiter to make your expressions more readable
tek_
3% if the educational system is lucky?
Artnez_
tek_: the point is, i (like many of you here) are sitting in a IRC room talking about PHP (most of the time, lol) because we love doing it
we are lucky
peterkuma
hi! is there anyone who would know how to compile php on windows with odbc?
Artnez_
because our interest is in a civil, peaceful, activity
TML
root404: What exactly is the problem you're having with this code?
Artnez_
but how about those that find selling dope interesting, or doing drive bys
root404
TML: Any domain inputted always shows as unavailable..
Renacor
does php have any functions that can get a histogram from an image to determine it's dominant color?
tek_
I am here because I enjoy programming. I have also found that coincedentally (most the time) people that are in here and actively program are less likely to be innate whackasses, in my personal experiences.
Artnez_
in this country you can become a millionare by creating a plastic utencil that can pick popcorn out of a bag in movie theatres
TML
root404: Then I would check what's being returned from the shell_exec()
tek_
If you want to get more intelligent, spend time learning from people that are smarter than you... that's why I'm here.
And I love TML
TML
he
"heh", even
tek_
That's his way of saying he loves me too
root404
TML: It's working right
TML: http://insertdomainhere.org/domain/
Stormchaser
TML: You like that comic
root404
Enter in a working one, and then a non one.
Stormchaser
?
drat
mattmcc
TML: I'm not saying you're fu*ked when you become homeless and peniless, I'm saying it becomes a signifcant challenge which many people (whether they _can_ or not) don't overcome.
tek_
perseverance is failing * times and succeeding the *th time
TML
Stormchaser: I actually have looked at it once before, but it's been many a year, and the art quality has improved *dramatically*
lietu
"need to release some RAM"? as if any irc client could eat up your ram
syf
suddenly when you have no home and no money, you can't open up a bank account anymore, can't take as shower, can't get a job interview, can't do anything anymore
TML
root404: When you say "it's working right", are you saying you no longer have a problem?
Renacor
does php have any functions that can get a histogram from an image to determine it's dominant color?
TML
Renacor: I don't think so
root404
TML: I mean the shell_exec is returning the right stuff.
mattmcc
Renacor: Feel free to write one.. :) There are functions to get the image values for each pixel, and statistical packages in PEAR. Slam'em together.
Stormchaser
TML: True... It's fantastic :)
I wish to draw like that
Renacor
looks like this does it http://phpclasses.elib.com/browse/package/15.html
but you gotta subscribe
tek_
which comic Stormchaser?
TML
root404: When I submit your form it just loops back to the same page with no output.
mattmcc
Renacor: Yeah, you have to subscribe because Maneul Lemos has an ass-backwards view on the world.
Stormchaser
tek_: inverloch
tek_
Link?
root404
...?
Stormchaser
tek_: www.seraph-inn.com
Renacor
mattmcc: very silly
root404
TML: Do you have javascript turned off?
TML
Renacor: Yes, that's one of the most common complaints about PHP Classes, and the primary reason I'll *never* use PHP Classes code in my projects.
tek_
Whose is this?
TML
root404: My browser doesn't support javascript.
mattmcc
Renacor: Yes, countless people over the years have told him it's silly.
root404
TML: Ah...Hmm..
ds-
heh
(Action) raises his hand as one of those people
cmatheson
hey guys, i can't find out how to get the contents of a directory
mattmcc
It used to be a frequently recoccuring topic on the php3 mailing list.
Stormchaser
tek_: Sarah Ellerton
Artnez_
cmatheson: are you using PH5 or anyting below?
cmatheson
Artnez_: PHP4
tek_
very nice
Artnez_
http://us2.php.net/function.opendir
^ cmatheson
cmatheson
Artnez_: thanks!
Artnez_
aye aye, dont forget to check the manual first :)
cmatheson
Artnez_: heh, i was looking at the file system functions but somehow i missed it (i was looking for something like ls() or dir())
Artnez_
you can technically use ls if you're on a nix box but that wouldnt be a good idea anyway
cmatheson
i see
mattmcc
Not exactly machine-friendly output.
Artnez_
right
dbe
how can I print out which web browser I use
Artnez_
dbe: $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'];
or http://us2.php.net/function.get-browser
dbe
Aramir, thx
ironpig
can I echo the information from an rss feed into a different html page with php?
mattmcc
(Action) snickers at a profile pic on somebody's blog.
"When I say LOL, I'm not laughing out loud, I just have nothing better to say."
Jymmm
"LOL"
jiggster
well said Jymmm
Kassah
doesw anyone know a way of making a completely text submit button (without the outline) without using JavaScript or an image
frank_farmer
Anyone happen to know of a place that has both php5-imagick AND php5-mcrypt packages for debian? the unstable tree doesn't have php5-imagick, and the 3 or 4 places that do have php5-imagick... don't have mcrypt
spox
Kassah: use lynx
Kassah
spox, not client specific :)
Artnez_
Kassah: a form submit "button" as text without using javascript?
Kassah
Artnez_, a button without the 'button' look
frank_farmer
You could tweak the CSS to some extent...
Artnez_
but without an image?
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