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xenoterracide
http://privatepaste.com/efc6f6ee2e anyone know what that error means and is there anyway to disable swap requirements for the install?
TheBonsai
swap requirements?
xenoterracide
oracle won't install without some form of a swap enabled
I tried setting the value to 0 but it still didn't work
zasz
heh
why are you doing that?
xenoterracide
'cause I normally don't use or need swap
I have more ram on this box than what's needed to play with oracle for school
zasz
set some swap space
xenoterracide
yeah I just reenabled it
this is not relly going to be the challenging part of the install
zasz
are you installing 11g r2?
xenoterracide
yes
or at least that's what I'm attempting
         

zasz
it's not hard, just follow the manual
what course is this for in school?
xenoterracide
It's called Database Programming
zasz
yea, cool
xenoterracide
I think it could have been named PL/SQL
zasz
install the sample schemas
xenoterracide
it's going to be a challenge because I'm not exactly following oracles rule... and the rest of the class is doing it on windows
zasz
what OS are you installing it in
*on
xenoterracide
arch linux < which is not supported by oracle... so we'll see if I can get it to work
wtf it thinks i need 5G of swap... it it computing this against my ram or something?
sorry 6G of swap
zasz
lol
xenoterracide
seriously... why does it think I need as much swap as I have ram
retarded I hate this database...
zasz
haha
it's the best on the market son
also if you want to be successful, I suggest you use a supported OS
and there is a way to ignore system prerequisites
xenoterracide
it's also the most expensive
and I've read reports that it's not so much better to be worth its expensive price tag in a lot of cases
but besides the point
Dormir
in some cases, that's true, not a lot
xenoterracide
either way how would I get it to ignore swap? because I'm not sure I have 6G of extra hard drive space anymore...
zasz
put some swap in
xenoterracide
give me a hard drive
I've got 3G of swap now
zasz
you can use the /ignoreSysPrereqs
flag
did you create oracle users, groups, kernel parameters, etc
xenoterracide
looks like I need to fix up some of that stuff too
I was just going to install it into my home directory
zasz
do all the pre installation stuff before running the installer
consult the documentation
you're asking for problems by using a non supported OS though
xenoterracide
prolly
         

zasz
for testing at home I use centOS
xenoterracide
but I only have one system
I have considered using a virtual machine
that's not supported either
zasz
yes it is
oracle will support oracle issues in a vm but as soon as it's determined it's a hypervisor problem you'd have to contact the virtualization vendor
Dormir
I use Gentoo for my home system
zasz
sorry to hear that
Dormir
don't be, I like it better than any other distro
xenoterracide
no I mean centos isn't supported
I used to use gentoo
then I left
and now I use arch
zasz
yes but it's a RHEL clone xenoterracide
and RHEL is supported
so it's easy to get oracle running on centOS
Dormir
usually, you can find posts on installing Oracle on non-supported Linux distros. the one in the topic is good
xenoterracide
which one in the topic?
Dormir
the one that says installing oracle on linux
xenoterracide
k
Dormir
reading is fundamental :)
xenoterracide
I know
I'm used to just installing my software without having to do a lot of finagling
zasz
ya
not quite like that with Oracle
Dormir
yeah, unlss you've done it before, not with Oracle
xenoterracide
outside of oracle I've only had to tweak a database setting in an install once
Dormir
and even if you've done it before, not with Oracle
zasz
lol Dormir
Dormir
mysql or postgresql?
xenoterracide
and then I changed how to db did it not the OS
even though I could have changed the OS setting
postgresql
Dormir
totally different beast
xenoterracide
I had to lower... shared buffers I think it was. because the vm didn't have enough of some kernel setting I forget what off the top of my head
well if it can run on gentoo and on suse 11 I suspect it can run on arch... so I'll get it working...
zasz
how long have you been an oracle dba for Dormir
Dormir
12.5 years
zasz
about 6 months here :)
reading the performance tuning manual now, good stuff
those advice v$ views are nice
Dormir
enjoying it so for?
far
zasz
good info, pretty dry though
oh Oracle you mean
yes, I was a SQL Server DBA before this
didn't know what i was missing
Dormir
as many tech mauals are
zasz
ill probably do oracle for the rest of my life
Dormir
yeah, I'll do it for awhile longer, then see where things take me
zasz
is it boring now?
Dormir
no, still keeps me busy
zasz
12.5 years is almost double my entire IT career haha
Dormir
but tha depends on the environment
I've been in some shops that were very quiet
and some that weren't
just depends on what you like
zasz
i work for a hosting company so it's mostly customers I support
so i see all kinds of different environments
and i work with 3 guys that have all been doing oracle forever
so it's good for a new oracle guy
well one guy is only 7 years, but he has his OCM
he's actually a brilliant guy
Dormir
yeah, a good mentor can help a lot
zasz
one guy started with oracle 7i
you would have started with what, 8i
Dormir
I did some with 7.3.4
zasz
i guess there is no 7i, just 7
cool
Dormir
and 8.0.x
8i came out about 9 months after I started at Oracle
zasz
working with Oracle or at the actual corporation
Dormir
at the company
zasz
nice, what did you do there
Dormir
sales consultant. went out with the sales people and told the customer the truth after they were sold the world by sales
zasz
haha
how big was oracle back then?
working for oracle would be cool but it would probably be the most lucrative to open a consulting firm eventually
Dormir
it's good for training and learning how the product works
big as in employees?
zasz
yes
Dormir
don't remember
zasz
probably pretty big
Dormir
yeah, right around the dotcom boom
rindolf
http://www.puschitz.com/OracleOnLinux.shtml - do these instructions hold for Mandriva (Cooker/2010.1 in my case)?
TheBonsai
all the mentioned systems are supported platforms
have fun installing on an unsupported platform
rindolf
Ah.
Fun I shall have!
TheBonsai: I want to use it for experimentation - not for deployment.
TheBonsai
hehe
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