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krushia
is there a more advanced version of https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-where-firefox-stores-user-data that actually describes the formatting of each file?
calamari
when I start firefox, I get a white window and nothing else. I tried loading in safe mode, and I get a small dialog which I presume is asking me a question, but it is just white too. I opened a few other applications that I presume are GTK3, but they seemed to render fine. anyone run into this? Firefox 40, Ubuntu MATE 14.04
jimbo1qaz
ya is there any addon to debug addon compatibility issues with binary search?
the "wipe out all addons and preferences" attitude commonly expressed is disgusting.
I WANT my addons. I installed them, configured them for a reason.
It's too much work to reconfigure everything.
It's like fixing a leaky roof by rebuilding the entire house.
synapt
Brand spanking new windows install on some of the best general consumer hardware available at the moment, and I still get FF lag after 20-30~ tabs
lol
I miss the v28 days :(
jimbo1qaz
which was like 1.5 years ago
seems a bit too early for nostalgia
synapt
jimbo1qaz: Yet so easy to remember because I could have 200 tabs open and FF would be speedy as hell
lol
now I open 20 and things come to a crawl and keep halting
jimbo1qaz
using classic theme restorer? will mimic old appearance, but prolly not old speed.
synapt
Yes, I made use of that
jimbo1qaz
what about ffox safe mode?
temporarily resets settings and disables addons
         

synapt
The issue is in FF at core for the most part, sure it's a smidget faster with all plugins and extensions disabled, but then that otherwise makes my browsing experience more dreadful :P
jimbo1qaz
so ur not a developer?
synapt
So even if safe mode would make things super fast like the good ol' days, it wouldn't be viable to use because of all the extensions I otherwise like and need
jimbo1qaz
okay
synapt
And yes I am, but I'm generally more concerned with my browsing experiences over my web dev tools
(ie; things like privacy badger)
jimbo1qaz
anyway, privacy badger, it broke youtube at some point, I no longer use it.
is umatrix better/equivalent? im using
synapt
Weird, no issues here with it
jimbo1qaz
broke youtube comments a year ago
uninstalled and didn't look back
synapt
Ah, I can -see- comments, but I don't do G+ so I don't bother trying to post comments
jimbo1qaz
use g+ page, to avoid revealing real profile
that's what I do
irrelevant, but quote from an hour ago: "ya is there any addon to debug addon compatibility issues with binary search?"
so essentially, disable half the addons and see if it still breaks
and first disable all addons to see if it's a configuration (about:config) problem?
synapt
I just don't use G+ at all, haven't ever needed to :P
jimbo1qaz
ok then
synapt
I largely just go on to watch some gamer vids occasionally lol
b0at
it's worth trying to eliminate the heavy cosmetic extensions like classic theme restorer
most of that can be achieved with a little css, anyway, in stylish or userchrome.css
synapt
B0at: Main problem is I prefer the classic non-chrome look, but it's not the extensions causing it, as I noted safe mode otherwise makes a smidget of 'better' performance
and if my hardware is the problem then I don't possibly know what I can do. maybe I'll try to get one of the 64-bit based FF builds and see how it performs
b0at
my tabs don't look like chrome and i don't use specialized extensions for it.
synapt
b0at: I'll have to look at it non-extension again I guess, it's been a long while since
"Classic theme restorer" is otherwise the only theme specialized extension I use
all the rest of the stuff I use are just oriented around anti-ad, privacy and web dev stuff
jimbo1qaz
is hw acceleration enabled?
any possibility it's blacklisted or something?
synapt
Possibility that what is blacklisted? And yeah HW acceleration should be enabled
(Action) double checks to find that it is indeed enabled
jimbo1qaz
https://blog.mozilla.org/joe/2010/11/10/how-to-tell-if-youre-using-hardware-acceleration/
go to about:support
ctrl-f, GPU Accelerated Windows, what does it show?
         

synapt
one sec, I would have to assume it is, lemme see
2/2 Direct3D 11 (OMTC)
jimbo1qaz
ok it's not disabled accel
synapt
I figured as much as one of the things FF does after a while is seem to lose it's ability to render on the GPU, all the tab bodies go straight black
lol
And shortly after that (if I don't manually close it), it just crashes. though it has -not- done that yet on this new system
Then again this new system is only like 2~ days old
jimbo1qaz
any reason I'm helping you?
btw, you should probably post system specs
synapt
I have no idea, I didn't technically ask for it, lol, was just a random fly-by comment. Beyond that it's a 6700K, 32 gigs of memory and a 980 Ti on Win7
jimbo1qaz
do you want to spend time fixing issue, or too much troujble?
synapt
like I said some of the better end of general consumer grade hardware currently out
jimbo1qaz: I've tried as many things as I could think of + tons of things other people have suggested since I originally started trying to fix it around v30, I admit I've more or less reluctantly given up to it just being FF core isn't half as performant as it once was
but FF is still sexier than Chrome or any other browser so I grunt every once in a while and still use it :P
llamapixel
Do you have a revoIII x2 installed synapt?
b0at
is there an extension or style that combines the tab bar and location bar that still works?
can't find anything
synapt
llamapixel: I do not, only two SSD's I have currently internal are two Samsung EVO 850's, then a few other HDD's
llamapixel
I got a picture of your computer synapt ;) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TEfbzoQs/system.jpg
nate
Had one of those when I was a kid, some of the best imaginative making toys ever :P
XXCoder
llamapixel: dang thats advanced model
I don't even have star interface.
llamapixel
its the retina version :P
XXCoder
yep lol
kephra
i'm updating body class by js to change mouse cursor - but cursor does only update, if I move mouse or press a key
is there any trick/event to force cursor update?
gr8
when I open this html snippet with firefox or dillo http://fpaste.org/264149/29649144/ I get the following message: Line 8: No "p" element in scope but a "p" end tag seen. What is the problem? When I remove the unsorted list inside, the error disappears.
b0at
p elements can't contain block elements, only inline elements
so it gets implicitly closed when it sees the ul, which is a block element
then the closing tag becomes superfluous. now, the rendering engine may enter a quirks mode to make it look like it appears like the ul is inside the p for styling purposes. the algorithm for that might be in some html5 spec document.
you can run the document through http://validator.w3.org/ to get more detailed errors and warnings
gr8
makes sense, thanks!
DryEagle
is there any way to tell if some media on a website needs flash player or not? i dont have flash installed, and if i see a play button i assume its html5, but sometimes i click it and it pretends to load forever and nothing happens. for example https://gimletmedia.com/show/mystery-show/episodes/
vehicle
Interesting. I have issues with FF 40.0.3 on multiple fresh installations of W7 Pro x64. Thing crashes like crazy, yet old installations with similar configuration continue to function. I've tried resetting the settings, deleted profiles manually, done reinstalls, installed ver 39.0 and upgraded from there. Issue persists
FF.exe does not close properly, it stays there eating ever-increasing amounts of RAM and consuming ~50% of CPU
llamapixel
Windows event viewer says?
vehicle: asking you mate
vehicle
Just a moment
Interestingly enough, nothing
b0at
vehicle: does it happen in safe mode? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode#w_how-to-start-firefox-in-safe-mode
vehicle
I'm unable to start the browser in safe mode as it fails to close itself (except when I manually kill the process from task manager). However I have manually disabled all addons and extensions and the issue still persists
b0at
you can use the -safe-mode command line argument
then it'll be easy to see if it's hardware acceleration related or anything
vehicle
Still crashed
b0at
hm
vehicle
It's unlikely to be hardware issue as well as the issue persisted on 2 separate machines (one's an old C2D E8400, while the current one is Haswell Pentium Dual Core). I've tested hard drives and RAMs
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