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Mathis
hello
I have stored the link to the PM magazine in my bookmarks, when clicking on it, Firefox 3.6.3 wants me to save some .htm file to disk. is that normal?
got it, keyboard did something unintended
edoceo
Is the this right place to talk extension development? I need help getting started with an XPCOM type extension - well part XPCOM and part JS (JS is done, needs XPCOM to interact w/dev/ttyS0)
dolske
edoceo: you'll probably have better luck on irc.mozilla.org's #extdev.
though it's a bit quiet there right now, being the weekend and all...
Gryllida
I need a Firefox cloak, like @firefox/developers/Gryllida , is this possible?
mezod
i've got 2 "firefox errors" since last update, it just crashed when im navigating, is that error known?
Gryllida
not sure, try this:
Safe Mode (in supported Mozilla applications) is a good way to see if an add-on, theme or something else is causing a problem. Please see: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Safe+Mode
mezod
i dont use any add-on plugin theme or anything :S
rjohnson19
mezod: you get a mozilla crash reporter dialog? You can copy and paste crash reports from about:crashes in Fx here for us to look at
mezod
rjohnson19 well it doesnt really give an specific error, it just comes with the cash reporter saying if i want to send the report to mozilla and if i want to restart, but ill screen it next time
         

rjohnson19
if you submit it, a reference to the crash report is saved and visible in about:crashes in the firefox location bar.
mezod
let me check then
http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/791311a9-df64-41c4-b6ab-dd9482100403
rjohnson19
NPSWF32.dll is Adobe Flash.
mezod
so? i had never had any problem with it!
Gryllida
re-install it?
rjohnson19
looks like your Flash version is out of date. but other then that you'll have to wait for out of process plugins so that flash crashes don't take out the whole browser.
mezod
hmm why are the solutions always worse than the problems? :P
Gryllida
try this? https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/
mezod: ^
mezod
ok
thanks
severnaya
im having a problem where firefox can't "see" through any content behind a transparent gif, and it just shows up as white. this effects many news websites that put stretch 1x1 gifs over their photos
so a lot of websites i cant see any of the pictures on
Gryllida
ok a second
Safe Mode (in supported Mozilla applications) is a good way to see if an add-on, theme or something else is causing a problem. Please see: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Safe+Mode
severnaya try safe mode. does the problem remain there?
severnaya
let me see
yes Gryllida its still a problem. i can't see almost any picture on http://www.huffingtonpost.com/, and all the ones i can't see have a transparent gif stretched over them
Gryllida
um ok a moment
A profile stores your settings, extensions, application data, bookmarks, email, and so on. More information at http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Profiles The Profile Manager allows you to create/delete/switch profiles. Firefox: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Managing+profiles Quit Firefox before using Profile Manager.
create new profile
will the problem remain in it?
severnaya
ok let me see
Gryllida, all the images load. but how could a new profile be different than my other one which is only a day old and had everything turned off in safe mode
Gryllida
I don't know. Safe mode = disable all addons & prefs. New profile = disable all addons & prefs & bookmaarks & some more things.
severnaya
is there any way to restore about:config back to default?
i did some messing in there
Gryllida
there is :)
run the safe mode dialog
it will have the boxes
one of them is "reset prefs to defult"
severnaya
ok
Gryllida
tick it, then hit the button "do changes and restart"
severnaya
weird
i think this profile is just bugged
ill try to start over
         

Gryllida
ok
severnaya
Gryllida, it happens after a default install of noscript.
i just figured it out cuz i was installing all my extensions again, and reloading the huffingtonpost.com after each one installs
so there must be some options in noscript thats breaking it
LaraSnak
hi Gryllida
Gryllida
hi
severnaya
Gryllida, i found that by switching dom.disable_image_src_set to true, it breaks all gifs
just so you know
Gryllida
gavin: I need a Firefox cloak, like @firefox/developers/Gryllida , is this possible?
TannerF
Gryllida: uh. you can't get a developer cloak unless you're a developer.
Gryllida
I am a developer of addons
TannerF
so...?
you're not a FIREFOX developer
Gryllida
um, I am unsure, I need a confirm that I need to be one. It should be documented somewhere.
LaraSnak
maybe there are other cloaks related to Firefox that don't say developer?
Gryllida
I don't want to be /firefox/community/gryllida
I know it is possible, but there is mostly developing that I do.
Not communicating.
MOSTLY
gavin
there's no documentation
firefox/developers is reserved for firefox developers
Gryllida
gavin: only employees? or if I fix aa bug I become one of these?
and is being developer of addons for firefox enough?
Lazure
is it possible to install firefox 3.7 beta or whatever it's at now .. side by side with my current 3.6 install? reason being, i wanna see if 3.7 has the flash problems that 3.6 has (which 3.5 didn't)
Gryllida
it is
Lazure
i don't wanna install the beta, find out it's worse, and end up losing my 3.6 settings heh
Gryllida
a second
Lazure
i'm running windows 7 64-bit
Gryllida
I guess you want this one: Minefield is the name for the bleeding edge trunk builds of Firefox available from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ & http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-central/
TannerF
Lazure: you'd be best off making a profile for 3.7a4 (trunk) as it can corrupt some files
Gryllida
just install it, it goes to separate foldder
Lazure
i guess if i grab the one called minefield, it'll produce its own install directory and a different %appdata% location?
Gryllida
and yes, create a new profile for it
yes, its own install directory
Lazure
ok. how would i do that before first run ?
just in case, i'm gonna backup my %appdata%\mozilla folder anyways
Gryllida
The Profile Manager allows you to create/delete/switch profiles. Firefox: http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Managing+profiles
create new profile, then install minefield, then use it with new profile
Lazure
ok
Gryllida
&use 3.6.3 with the old profile
gavin
Gryllida: it has nothing to do with employment
developer of Firefox addons is not enough, but we could just as easily add firefox/addon/developer, or whatever
Gryllida
is fixing a bug enough then?
a FIREFOX bug?
gavin: ^
ok let it be firefox/addon/developer , caan you set it?
firefox/addondeveloper/Gryllida ??
Lazure
damn, they didn't fix the flash problem in 3.7
TannerF
Lazure: what flash problem?
Lazure
see.. in firefox 3.5, these flash apps wouldn't cause my browser to stop responding to mousehweel actions or even navigating away fromt he page
but 3.6 and later do
it's like flash now lags the browser itself starting with 3.6
and it's not just this computer, but my laptop and my girlfriend's computer too
whether it's winXP or windows 7
3.5 was fine, 3.6 wasn't.. and minefield didn't fix it yet either.
gavin
no, fixing one firefox bug is not enough
rjohnson19
Lazure: this bug cover some of what you are seeing: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483136 ?
although I thought that was still a problem in 3.5
Lazure
that's a different bug
that's the flash having focus on your mouse or something
rjohnson19
oh.
Lazure
no, this is a bug involvin firefox lagging/not responding to most actions while heavy flash is present on the page (like a facebook app)
evne trying to switch to another tab takes forever when this happens to me
and mousewheel won't work even when i click on a blank spot of the page, except maybe in bursts here and there it MIGHT respond
rjohnson19
i've seen some lag switching away from a tab with a lot of flash on it, figured it was an OOPP thing.
Lazure
on 3.5 , flash itself would get jerky and laggy, but the browser would always be fine and responsive
in 3.6, flash still gets kinda jerky/laggy, but now the browser takes a hit too.
reproduced easily on several facebook apps on 4 different machines, this machine which has a core 2 duo running windows 7 64-bit, my i3 laptop running win7 64-bit, a p4 running XP, and an AMD Athlon II X2 running XP.
on any machine that's still running 3.5 , this does not occur.
i'd just downgrade to 3.5, but i'd have to find the installer for it, and hope i can still use my addons and keep my saved settings somehow =x
tho.. i wonder if there's a setting in about:config that may revert whatever new feature 3.6 has which may have broken flash performance
brah-
when I go to open a new tab after existing tabs have been idle awhile firefox seems to open the new tab in an existing tab
instead of a brand new tab at the end,it's really annoying
Samus_Aran
how can I find out where Firefox is saving its temporary files ? I'm on a web page with videos, and I can't figure out where it's storing the cache files. it's not /tmp/Flash* or in my Cache folder
kbrosnan
flash is intentionally hard to get, that is one of the reasons media companies like it so.
Samus_Aran
it has to store the files somewhere on my computer, whether encrypted or not
normally it is /tmp/Flash* or else in the Cache folder
kbrosnan: so no clues as to what folders Adobe Flash may write to other than /tmp and the Cache folder?
WOFall
try appdata/flash appdata/macromedia localdata/ etc
like kbrosnan said, it's intentionally hard to get
kbrosnan
those are windowish paths, he is on linux
WOFall
well how was I to know? I tried to CTCP but he returned some nonsence string of "42"
On linux i think it's all under .macromedia in the home dir
kbrosnan
/tmp/...
WOFall
well how should i know he doesn't mean some tmp folder on windows? :p
Samus_Aran
kbrosnan: it isn't in /tmp, I am sorting by most recent files. there's nothing there over 1MB
I'll look for a ~/.macromedia
only small files in there
I guess I'll need to break out the strace. bah.
WOFall
Samus_Aran, if it's an encrypted stream it won't store the video on disk
kbrosnan
/tmp was my answer to how do you know he is on linux. not an answer to find the flash files
Samus_Aran
WOFall: and where will it store the hundreds of megabytes of video data ?
I've never seen Flash store it in RAM in many years
WOFall
it decodes as it plays, the server delivers the data in bursts...
look at it in the network tab of firebug and see if that's what's happening
presuming you have firebug installed i guess :p
i don't
The only reason I have firefox installed is because i was forced to install ubuntu-desktop yesterday when i broke kde :/
towardme
I remembered there is an firefox extension that enabled me to make search link and place it on the search bar's drop-down menu
do people know the name?
Samus_Aran
I have Firebug for web development, I've never used it to look at traffic
not sure how that works
WOFall: those comments aimed at you
Friction[laptop]
does anyone know of an addon to block certain javascript functions. i want to block onbeforeunload/ onunload
dknight
felipe`: hi
Samus_Aran
Friction[laptop]: I'm not sure of an add-on, but that may be possible with a user Javascript file
Friction[laptop]
ok
Samus_Aran
e.g. overriding those built-ins with custom functions. I'm not sure if that's possible or not, perhaps ask in #Javascript if that can be done
-afk-
Friction[laptop]
surprised no one's made a plugin for it
do those messages not really annoy anyone else?
how do i make a user js file?
runa
hello do you know a tab to keep firefox always open in background
so that it starts up very fast
like a daemon i mean
for example emacs has a similar version
Shar16
hi. Is there any way to keep firefox loaded in memory after closing all open windows? Normally that would be a bug, of course, but to me it 's a feature. 1) Downloads don't get interrupted 2) when I want to start firefox it loads fast
raboof
Shar16: heh, runa just had the same question
Shar16
what was the answer?
raboof
none yet
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/15829/ mentions on linux you could use 'prefetch' to much the same effect
Shar16
h,
raboof
http://www.geekishblog.com/2009/07/how-to-keep-firefox-3-5-running-after-closing-last-tab-and-add-a-close-tab-button-on-the-last-tab/ seems to have the answer
at least, setting browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab to false will make it harder to close firefox by accident
PeterParker
hello is the security hole in latest firefox solved and save to install now ?
rjohnson19
what security hole would that be? 3.6.3 has no disclosed vulnerabilities.
Shar16
which security hole
PeterParker
don't know on open suse they told me was not safe to update to 3.6.3
as there was a big security hole
rjohnson19
what security hole? where is the security announcement?
PeterParker
diden't ask you want me to ask them now?
rjohnson19
3.6.3 is more secure that any previous 3.6.x...
Shar16
there was an exploit fixed in 3.6.3 that didn't affect 3.5.x though
maybe he is referring to that
andash
hello! i'm trying to get firefox on windows 7 to open/use .torrent files with a winscp script i wrote. basically i want to transfer .torrent files i click on to my linux server.
PeterParker
i would like to know vs opera and crome is firefox more secure?
rjohnson19
like I said, the pwn2own vuln, and the woff vulnerability are both fixed. I haven't heard of any others.
andash
i'm basically stuck, i've written the script but i don't know how to really specify it in fx... i have to use cmd manually to open the script in winscp
PeterParker
is firefox now more secure then opera and chrome?
rjohnson19
thats subjective, really. you can run stats on the announced vulnerbilities and the turn around time...IMO things like NoScript and ABP make Fx more secure.
PeterParker
i use sandboxie that seems safe vs anything 100% now for windows users
so it works well with firefox opera and crome i seen sandboxie what you think of this great free open source software called sandboxie?
Shar16
sandboxie is actually shareware and more importantly, offtopic here.
PeterParker
well it's free for personal use i use since ages
but ok sorry for off topic
judgen
Where do i set what file manager to use when i want top open the downloads folder through the download manager? or to set what flie manager that is the default for firefox?
aah i just removed nautilus and then i got the question what to use instead.. =D
sory to have bothered.
znx
Is there a way to make firefox download a file based purely on its extension not the type?
for instance .. file.rar delivered as application/octet-stream, but download that anyway?
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