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diddly
what does the libnotify dependency do for firefox in 3.6.x? i run kde/linux, should it use the kde notifier system now?
Necos
i don't know what it's going to notify you of... lol
diddly
the only thing i can think of is the popup when downloads finish. but alas that is why i am here
in gentoo i can build it without it, and if its useless i will
Necos
why would you bother compiling from scratch? >.>
diddly
gentoo.org
Necos
that didn't answer my question...
:P
diddly
gentoo is a from source distro, I dont compile it from source, my package manager does
Necos
gentoo is a source-based distro yes, but there are already precompiled binaries available
JodaZ
why does firefox have lagspikes with javascript
         

diddly
Necos: that is not the gentoo way :)
JodaZ
it kinda feels like if they were triggering the gc all 5 seconds and not somehow dynamically
Necos
heh, firefox builds are LONG... i rather just repackage the precompiled binary since all of the useful options are already statically linked in
but that's just me :)
diddly
Necos: actually to be fair, xulrunner compiles are long, firefox itself builds quite quickly :)
but on modern hardware, i can (re)build firefox inside of 10 minutes
including xul
Necos
but they all happen in the same major event, aka, the FF build :P
diddly
actually gentoo has broken it into dependencies
also nspr is separated
Necos
ugh... that's just compilation hell... but i'm guessing that's all taken care of in the ebuild
diddly
yesir, the devs are excellent. i can sit back and be a dumb user, by the time it hits the mass consumption package tree its not my problem
Necos
it takes me about 40 seconds to repackage the offical binary using a slackbuild script though ;)
diddly
oh dont get me wrong, gentoo has bin builds for FF too, I just dont use em
i really do need to play with slack some day. it interests me, but i havent found the time
Necos
slackware is a very nice distro actually... it's sort of the midway point between a full-on bin-only distro (e.g., debian and it's progeny) and a full source distro (LFS, gentoo, etc...)
diddly
well now that VMs are so quick and easy i should put a slack box together
Necos
it's fun... arch is another fun one to play with
diddly
quite honestly i dont care about using -funroll-loops -l33t-speedup-hack -O14 in gentoo, i just really like its packager. portage gives you so much control, and the tools, docs and devs are awesome
and the biggest thing over the bin distros is that ive been using a machine with an install i put on in 2004
Necos
slackware and gentoo aren't all that different... with slackpkg and sbopkg, you're pretty much taken care of if you don't have the time to roll your own packages using slackbuild scripts
diddly
yeah i like everything i've read about it, just never found the time
binary distos are just boring, everyone wants instant gratification
Necos
nothing wrong with binary distros, until there's a package that's not available in a binary :)
lemongrass
I need some help with java and firefox in ubuntu. I'm not able to detect java, even though I installed the plugin according to sun's instructions
Necos
lemongrass, what does about:plugins tell you?
lemongrass
Necos: Nothing is listed there
Necos: I've already symlinked from plugin path in java folder to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
Necos: unfortunately the guide at sun.com is quite outdated....
         

diddly
lemongrass: why are you not using the java in aptitude?
lemongrass: or are you?
lemongrass
diddly: I didn't manage to get it to work
the plugin was always reported as "there is a problem with your java installation"
diddly
lemongrass: well thats a good reason then :)
lemongrass: what ubuntu version?
lemongrass
9.04
the plugin doesn't work in neither opera nor firefox.....
quite frustrating
diddly
64 bit?
lemongrass
diddly:
diddly: There's part of the core to my problem....I have a 64-bit version of kubuntu, and ff is 32 bit by default. What I didn't know at the time of installation is that I have to use a 32 bit jre aswell for firefox compatibility
diddly
lemongrass: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1425311&page=2
lemongrass: see post #14, seems to have helped some ppl
lemongrass: yep that sounds right
lemongrass
diddly:
diddly: This only adds a source to my repo. What package should I request?
I assume that I'm supposed to install something from the newly added source?
Ok, I
diddly
lemongrass: i would imagine (but dont know) that it just replaces the sun-java6-jre with a more up to date one. i'm not an ubuntu guy, just guessing for you ;)
lemongrass
Ok, I'm trying out sun-java-jre at the moment
let's see what happens
I have the official .bin ready just in case :p
diddly: I appreciate all reasonable suggestions :)
diddly: didn't work...Annoying. Opera seems to be satisfied, and there's more logic to the output of java -version now
diddly: still unable to initiate applets.....annoying
diddly
lemongrass: you might try in #ubuntu also, i'm out of ideas. sorry
lemongrass
diddly: Anyhow, thank's for your suggestions! Gotta go. Bye!
Gadu
I'm looking to create a separate firefox launcher that will launch a specified url in a new window that lacks the navigation toolbar, menu bar, and status bar.
lifestream
Hmm... I'm not sure how to phrase this...
You know how some websites have a fixed width? Well, this one in particular, I can't zoom in, because then, to read...
... I must keep using the horizontal bar to read the whole thing
So I'm wondering: is there a way to force a website to ... I'm sorry...I don't know what the word is :P Ermm... so it only goes as wide as the browser window?
Sadly the website doesn't have a 'printer friendly' option
Gadu
actually I believe I have something for you
1 moment
lifestream
Great :D
Gadu
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5753
this firefox addon makes it possible to edit the page you're on
you should be able to adjust that fixed width
I'm sure there are other addons with similar functionality as well so if it doesn't do exactly that, a hunt through addons would probably be your best bet
lifestream
Aah yes, that and Stylish! Why didn't I think of that :P Thanks:-)
Gadu
np ^_^
seems chromium-browser has a --app feature that does what I desire, is there something similar for firefox?
emmanuel_
hello!!
I need help, I'm using ubuntu and firefox, and sun-java6-plugin
but I cannot close applet window!!
somebody knows why?
I'm using ubuntu 9.10, firefox 3.6.3 and java6
Necos
...?
maybe it's a bug with the java applet?
emmanuel_
no
because I installed chrome and opera and it's the same!!
Necos
...?
where is the applet?
emmanuel_
Necos: the web page is: www.elchat.com/chat
Necos: there is a button which open a window applet
try it please
wlx_
hi, I have a question about how to decode the output of nsIFile.getRelativeDescriptor()?
If the path include utf8 character, it could not be read by human
Raccoon`
Google Chrome captures Asian market from Firefox, by simply adding support for MNG file format.
oh well. it was a good run.
Cork
ya, i find it annoying that mozilla removed support for mng...
serves them right :/
Mayazcherquoi
hi
i lost my firefox menu and address bar and i cannot get it back via the standard context menu! how can i get it back (is it possible by a shortcut?)?
Cork
Mayazcherquoi: do you see it if you click "alt" ?
Mayazcherquoi
Cork: let me see
yep
thanks
:)
(Action) feels like an idiot now
kolla
on ubuntu firefox has a bunch of really annoying sounds for popups... any idea how to get rid them? I have tried to set sound "theme" in gnome-control-center to "no sounds", but it doesnt affect firefox :/
dcmeese
nemesit: Do you know how I can get my hands on the firefox images (buttons, bars, etc)?
Not nemesit sorry lol
gavin_: Do you know how I can get my hands on the firefox images (buttons, bars, etc)?
dknight
what happened to themes in ff 3.6?
after I wear a theme on FF, when I restart, FF does not start any more
Bacta
Does FF support H.264 yet?
dknight
what are the changes made when a theme is installed?
thank you
Kovensky
<Bacta> Does FF support H.264 yet? <-- nope; you should look for greasemonkey scripts that replace <video> with <embed>
any embedded player will be much better than the browser's player anyway
Cork
uhh... not really
but no as firefox can't support h264 cause of its license form, its not supported yet
Kovensky
s/can't/refuses to support/
Cork
no can't
Kovensky
since it also doesn't allow users to install h264 support themselves
Cork
addin support through plugins mean we would be back at the same problem we have to day
that would me no real benefit of using video over embed
me==mean
Kovensky
forcing everyone to use theora / maybe-vp8 doesn't help though
video is still useless as a replacement for flash video precisely because there's no standard
Cork
they arn't, they just the other codecs just have to keep using flash
*the other just have to
Kovensky
no, because if you serve theora through <video>, then the other browsers won't play it
Cork
Kovensky: if you by other mean safari, ya
Kovensky
or at least IIRC despite using libavcodec chrome disables almost everything
Cork
cause thats the only browser not supporting it
h264 is supported by chrome and safari
Kovensky
(Action) also once tried playing a shoutcast stream in opera and it failed (so no ogg / vorbis support)
Cork
vorbis is supported by chrom, chromium, opera, firefox
Kovensky
might have been an old version though; I was using someone else's laptop
Cork
ya, you need a really new opera to have html5 support
Kovensky
I see
(Action) still thinks vp8 will bomb
either in the same way as VC-1 or in the same way as every other on2 release
(the latter means awful code)
<Cork> uhh... not really <-- also, the main reason I believe it would be better is because all browser players (at least currently) are slower than dedicated ones (like mplayer)
and some browsers at least have very bad scaling (or so I heard about chrome)
Cork
Kovensky: when you use video its not using a dediacated player
Kovensky
talking about bad scaling, firefox's picture scaler is awful :(
Cork
for some kind of images ya
but for most situations its grate
Kovensky
it works for upscaling
it completely bombs on downscaling
Cork
hmm for me its the oposit
well it prob depends on how much you scale
Wunderkind
hola
anyone here having customisation issues with ff 3.6 on linux?
anyone alive in here?
:(
helm
Hi, any hint how to do these funky "g <mySearchText>" or "s <aKeyWord>" for the adress bar?
result: "g myText" should result in somethin like "www.google.com/?search=myText"
found it, thx ;-)
Lartza_
My firefox doesn't work, Windows XP, atleast 3.6.2 I would say
It just crashes on start
Even safe mode
SixThreeOh
Does anyone know what keeps causing firebug to suddenly decide hey screw this reporting js errors in console business?
dp_
where do I find the setting for third party cookies?
dcmeese
How can I get access to the firefox UI images? Like form buttons, etc?
Casper
Hi there, firefox 3.6 on linux (gentoo). If I upload something to megaupload or imageshack (and I think elsewhere too, but I hasn't recently uploaded there so can't confirm) then firefox freeze until the file is completly uploaded. Any idea what can cause the problem? it dosen't seems to be any of the extension as I disabled "half" then reenabled and disable the other half...
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