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gladier
hey guys is there a way of doing like a verbose output log of firefox upon launch in OSX?
kbrosnan
you could try launching firefox from terminal.app though i don't think much is shown in non-debug builds
gladier
kbrosnan: can i download a debug build from somewhere?
Dale
I want my url bar to search google when I enter a keyword
gladier
or would i have to compile it myself with xcode?
Dale
I set the keywordURL thing to google in about:config
however now when I type "keyword" it tries to go to http://keyword/
with more than one word it works (and searches google)
gladier
ok i get some output - its a crapload of these though: 010-04-16 07:35:23.352 firefox-bin[773:903] *** __NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x282c7f0 of class NSCFString autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
kbrosnan
Dale: reset keyword.url
Dale: in the search bar click the drop down and slelect manage engines, select google and then set the keyword there
mintux
how can I open firefox with different profile I used firefox -p proflename and firefox -P profilename and open default firefox only
         

rjohnson19
mintux: Did you close Firefox first? For a second profile side by side, try firefox -no-remote -P name
mintux
rjohnson19: no the firefox with default profile is open and I want when I click on link in pidgin it open in another profile of firefox but when that profile is open too -no-remote said please close firefox first and with -no-remote the default profile open again
**without
rjohnson19: are there anyway ?
rjohnson19
On Windows, I can open a second firefox, side by side with another firefox, using another profile, like this: firefox.exe -no-remote -P "Profile Name"
You can't have the same profile open twice. Other than that, it works fine for me...
mintux
rjohnson19:so if you have click on link where does link open ? next profile?
rjohnson19
Oh, now I understand. Links won't open with a firefox running with -no-remote, they only go to a "primary" Fx running w/o -no-remote.
mintux
ok
hicham
is there some kind of solution to the random black on some webpages ?
Matux
//j mozilla
TannerF
?
Matux: Its invite only. You can't use it
Matux
I see
hicham
TannerF : how to get an invite ?
TannerF
Mozilla more than likely requested that it be invite only and not be used
So you don't
Matux
only for devel y tester
no?
devel and tester
TannerF
no one
Matux
good
hicham
TannerF : any idea about the stange black lines in firefox ?
TannerF
Hm, screenshot?
Matux
I want to only be on these channels to learn to help with programming, not to talk much because I'm not very expert: P
hicham
TannerF : http://img63.imageshack.us/i/screenshottr.png/
TannerF
Thats....not right
         

hicham
Tanner : ever seen that ?
TannerF
TannerF
no, i haven't
any addons?
hicham
Tanner : it happens with safe mode
TannerF
hmm
hicham
it is a gecko issue i think
TannerF
It wfm on Jolicloud
hicham
what ?
TannerF
wfm = works for me
jolicloud is a fork of Ubuntu netbook remix
hicham
no artifacts on drupal sites ?
Tobbi
TannerF:So?
TannerF
join the channel i told you to
hicham: It's fine for me on latest trunk
hicham
TanneF : can you try zooming ?
TannerF
yep
sec
solrize
firefox's spelling checker uses british english?
jaoudestudios
hi
does anyone use firebug?
Cork
sure
jaoudestudios
I would like to extract the information from firebug
is this possible?
Cork
"information"?
jaoudestudios
errors etc
Cork
copy paste?
jaoudestudios
haha :)
I would like to make it automatic
is there an api of some sort
Cork
hmm, you would probl have to create an extension for that
jaoudestudios
ah really
Cork
ya firebug has an api for extensions
jaoudestudios
what language would it be written in?
the extension
Cork
uh...
jaoudestudios
javascript?
Cork
in normal js + xul
jaoudestudios
ok
Cork
http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=193
jaoudestudios
thanks :)
Cork
np
alban_
Hi all
quick question, why is that that when I type about: in firefox
i get a page where it says I use firefox 1.9.2.0
knowing that I use 3.6
Cork[home]
it should say you use 1.9.2, but not firefox 1.9.2
that version number is gecko 1.9.2
kbrosnan
should say something like Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a5pre) Gecko/20100415 Minefield/3.7a5pre
Cork[home]
or for 3.6: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3
alban_
Ah i see... Well as you can see here it's not really clear http://cjoint.com/data/eqsaX2zdm0.htm
but yes I do have the verbose line that you mention
Cork[home]
somethings strange
alban_
ok thanks for the explanation anyway :)
Cork[home]
that page should not show 1.9.2 up there
(Action) checks in linux
alban_
I'm running opensuse 11.2 if that may help
Cork[home]
that build id looks a bit strange
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100401 Firefox/3.6.3
alban_
i didn't upgrade to 3.6.3 I guess
let me check
Cork[home]
no i meant they replaced the gecko part
but i don't think thats the reason
alban_
mmmh
Cork[home]
anyway, its a problem with how suse compiled it
so you need to take this up with them
alban_
in the Help>About they mention Firefox for opensuse
maybe they changed some stuff
Cork[home]
the mozilla release doesn't show it like this
ya
alban_
well it's not exactly critical :) I was just curious
thanks for the answers !
Cork[home]
yrw
floyd8
Hey everyone
How can I access saved firefox passwords from my file system>
kbrosnan
floyd8: they are encrypted
floyd8
I know the password. does that help?
kbrosnan
no
floyd8
I am trying to get saved passwords from an old hard drive. I forgot to back them up
kbrosnan
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Recovering+important+data+from+an+old+profile
twickr
What's the best way to speed up Firefox?
J_C
hello all. I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and there was a recent Firefox upgrade. Since then I can no longer access MS Hotmail. Anyone else seen this?
kbrosnan
should still work
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Basic+troubleshooting
J_C
did everything listed but plugins, I'll try that next. I have three different systems here, all Ubuntu and the same problem is on all three. It staerted after the upgrade, which surprised me greatly as Ive never seen firefox mess up after an upgrade.. Unfortunately I have no windows system here to test with.
topebwana
uuuups, hotmail doesn't work fine? Yeah, but what do you expect, my friend???
Necos
has anyone heard about problems with scim-bridge and FF 3.6?
paxcoder
It would be *really* nice if we had per-site on-demand preferences for allowing loading particular file://'s. I mean it's a brave new web out there, and the user can't use his files unless he uploads? What's up with that?
From where I'm sitting, my privacy is more likely to be compromised if I surrender my file to a third party, then if it's sitting on somebody else's server.
Necos
what?
paxcoder
*umm...
if I don't.
*surrender
well, you know what I meant.
Necos
per-site-on-demand... do you realize that's sort of a paradox?
paxcoder
In short, gimme my local files access with per-site enable buttons.
Necos: I don't, care to explain?
you enable it per file:// request (let's call it that)
Necos
because it makes more sense to be more strict than to be more permissive
paxcoder
Necos: that is not a general universal rule of thumb.
Especially when you sacrifice so much functionality. In today's web we need it.
kbrosnan
local file access?
paxcoder
You sapare web storage & bandwith, and you spare the user the wait. (and then you give additional functionality)
*bandwidth
kbrosnan: exactly.
Necos
it's a feature request that would only be used by a small number of users
paxcoder
Necos: at the beginning, perhaps.
kbrosnan
i don't get what you mean by that
paxcoder
kbrosnan: imagine you had a simple web mashup tool, but you didn't have to upload/download your files from the server.
Necos
i'm saying that the reason why you wouldn't see that is because it's better to be more restrictive (for file://, say...) than it is to introduce a new feature that lets you muck with it
kbrosnan
sounds like opera's web sharing thing
paxcoder
wouldn't know, don't use opera.
i know it's not in ff.
kbrosnan
neither do i, hence the vagueness
paxcoder
kbrosnan: do you see the mash-up tool? Your videos sit comfortably on your local drive.
kbrosnan
sharing stuff off your local machine is not easy to do securely
paxcoder
It's a bit farfetched perhaps but it's conceivable that you could have JS mash them up for you and then "download" from yourself. No cloud computing or fast&nonexpensive connections required. Everybody's happier.
kbrosnan: well all good things are worth some effort :-)
Cork[home]
well that sounds exactly what the input file + multi select + html5's file js handle will give you
kbrosnan
that is for uploading to a server
not for hosting content on your own machine
Cork[home]
not really, you can grab them in js, you don't have to upload it
uh.. wait, was the question to turn the browser into a file sever??
*server
paxcoder
no.
kbrosnan
yes
paxcoder
or?
Cork[home]
@_@'
that sounds insain
paxcoder
wait, what just happened?
Cork[home]
paxcoder: you mean to let the javascript app access local files, or share it to others?
paxcoder
Cork[home]: wouldn't i have the latter provided i have the former?
Cork[home]
no
paxcoder
I'm not talking about ReverseHTTP if that's what you're asking.
Although that is also a great idea.
We need to think outside of the box of: "This feels safer".
Cork[home]
paxcoder: if the comunication is not to be between you and the server/the local javascript in the page
its a file server
kbrosnan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)#Opera_Unite
Cork[home]
paxcoder: if it goes outside the bondrary of the page it can almost never be safe
paxcoder
Cork[home]: Ok, let me try to rephrase: Can I load a file:// and play it using a <video> tag? Secondly, can I load a file and use JavaScript to do stuff to it. To both questions it is implied no transferring of the said files to the server from which the code (web page) was acquired.
Cork[home]
paxcoder: the first need to allow local file access, ya, and thats unsafe
the secon is what i talked about before
html5 will give you that
paxcoder
Cork[home]: You can't say: Don't have that feature, because it is potentially exploitable. Think of new ways to make it safer.
Cork[home]: I'm not sure how HTML5 can help me, say, load a file into my textbox.
Cork[home]
paxcoder: not potetially, it is, its even been exploited before
paxcoder
Cork[home]: well other things were too. You don't cross them out. It's like saying: "No, don't transfer sensitive info over the web"
Cork[home]
paxcoder: with html5 the page can show you an upload field, you get a select box and press "paste" or some thing; the javascript grabs the file rom the input field and adds it to the textarea or what ever
thats what html5 adds to the file update javascripts
paxcoder
Cork[home]: Can you direct me to the tag pretty please?
Cork[home]
its still done through a safe mean
its not a tag
its an object in javascript
paxcoder
the description of how to do it then.
Cork[home]
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-FileAPI-20091117/
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_files_from_web_applications
paxcoder
Thank you. Now if I can only get it to play :-P
Cork[home]
note that it won't work in ie though
paxcoder
Noted, and the note discarded.
Cork[home]
well it might work in ie9 when it comes :)
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