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Alumin
sorry if this isn't an appropriate venue for this question (it's not a Firefox question per se), but...does anybody have a recommendation on an extension to do syntax validation? I'm looking for an "extension-ized" version of http://validator.w3.org/ that will validate "in-browser"
this is for Firefox 3.5.8 running in 32-bit Linux (Ubuntu 9.10), if it matters
currently, my leading...er...lead is Total Validator, but I'd just as soon avoid using something that relies on an online service if I can avoid it
Kovensky
Alumin: I think firebug has some validation thing, not sure though
Alumin
hmm...I have Firebug already, lemme look into that. Thanks!
Fern
Hey guys, Firefox has set my default search engine to Google.de rather than Google.com. Anyone know how to change this?
clickme
hi everyone
my firefox browser is not displaying CLOSE, MINIMIZE, MAXIMINIZE options. is not even accepting compiz wobbly effects, even if i disable compiz it still happens. i also tried a complete removal from synaptics, sudo aptitude purge firefox, and it didn't work [is not f11] http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7118/firefoxwindowoption.png
TannerF
what distro?
clickme
ubuntu karmic
desktop
how can i do a full reinstall of firefox
TannerF
just download the tarball, if you want to reinstall firefox
JodaX
clickme, kinda looks to me like a netbook something ?
clickme, what about other apps ?
         

clickme
they are good
JodaX
did you install any netbook packages ?
clickme
uhmm i really want to learn how to uninstall/fresh install in ubuntu, cuz this happen to me before with something else
doing the tar will fix that
JodaX
apt-get remove firefox
should do the trick
clickme
inst that the same as complete removal
JodaX
dunno what "complete removal" is
clickme
sudo aptitude purge firefox'
dolske
hmm. Firefox doesn't really have any control over the window buttons.
JodaX
hmm, purge ?
doesn't purge only empty cache ?
dolske
is that full screen or something?
JodaX
yeah, it propably is in fact f11
dolske
except there's a menubar.
JodaX
well, in any case, you could try removing the firefox user settings
i think its /home/USER/.firefox or something
clickme
i use synaptics to do an complete removal
JodaX
that propably won't remove the user settings
dolske
clickme: is that screenshot of a window of your desktop, or is it fullscreen, or what?
clickme
screenshot
dolske
read the question again. :)
clickme
screenshot of a window of your desktop
my desktop
dolske
so it's not covering the whole desktop?
         

clickme
lolz
it takes my whole desktop
JodaX
clickme, your f11 is propbly not working right, or you installed some netbook desktop or the netbook version of firefox, in any case, make sure you removed completely then reinstall over synaptic; also purge the hidden settings dir in your home dir that contains your user settings for it
dolske
clickme: was this working before?
clickme
yes
f11 works fine
JodaX
what does f11 do now ?
clickme
fullscreen
dolske
try this... quit firefox, then delete localstore.rdf from your firefox profile directory.
(usually somewhere under ~/.mozilla/....)
clickme
doing a search for the file
i found for
four
5 locations
JodaX
clickme, just wipe the .mozilla folder in your home dir
clickme
ok woot it worked
you guys are the greatest
So where can i search for and learn about uninstalling packaged completely
JodaX
removing it with synaptic is uninstalling a package completely, clickme
clickme
sometimes it doesn't work
JodaX
it does
every time
well, at least if it doesn't, it tells you why it failed
dolske
clickme: Firefox stores settings and such in your profile, and that's not removed when firefox is uninstalled. see https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Profiles
clickme
thnx
JodaX
profiles are never part of a program
and they aint removed on uninstall on any platform
windows, check, linux, check, osx, check
jastor
someone that can tell me a .deb for firefox-3.6 that doesnt automatically install the -branding package?
TannerF-afk
you'd have to use a tarball
jastor
probably .. but thats not what i was asking for :)
dolske
why no branding?
jastor
dolske: im not interesting in getting a large "youre using this linux" banner on google for example ;)
interested*
dolske
aroo? I'm not sure what banner you're talking about.
you mean like, say, the Ubuntu start page?
jastor
no
dolske: the searchbox in the top right corner, instead of going to www.google.com/?q= standard google query styff
dolske: i get to a subdirectory on google.com that replaces a bunch of standard google stuff to the linux stuff
dolske
oh, hrm, so distro-specific branding. *sigh*
TannerF-afk
dolske: plus the ubuntu version has a suckish crash reporter too
it won't report to mozilla
(you probably knew that)
jastor
dolske: ive edited hte sqlite3 files, searchbox xml files, etc.etc.etc. but still it points to the distro specific google search :P
dolske
indeed :P
I'm not sure how they're twiddling that.
jastor
dolske: when i use firefox from the tar.gz it doenst do theese things ... on the other hand the system doesnt know that firefox is installed ;)
dolske
clicking the icon and then Manage Search Engines should at least let you remove it, and then you could add back the normal one.
jastor
dolske: yes ... but google.com is locked :) you can remove any other search engine but google
dolske
really?
hmm, works on a OSX build from Mozilla. I wonder if Ubufox just jams it back in or something. You should probably file a bug, that's no so cool.
jastor
mmm
all im after is a firefox-3.6 (or later) that just dont require -branding ;)
.deb file i mean
forcibly removing the branding stuff . you get xml errors when you try and start firefox :)
downloading the .deb file from the repo that adds the -branding pacakge, remving -branding and then dpkg -i firefox-3.6.....deb installs it .. complains that -branding isnt installed, and shows taht xml error when you try and start
dolske
I dunno, maybe the folks in #ubuntu-mozillateam would have a suggestion.
jastor
now this was interesting
i installed firefox from a ppa .. it installes the -branding package .. but none of the branding stuff is there
ïnstsalled*
installed*
lakitu
hello - does firefox come with google toolbar (not the search bar, Google(R) Toolbar)?
or (TM) or whatever it is
GarrettW
no it doesnt
lakitu
how positive are you?
like 100%?
dolske
100%.
xangua
yes
lakitu
ok
GarrettW
cuz you dont need it
lakitu
good on firefox
google toolbar tracks every website you go to - searched thru google *OR NOT*
i am going to tell people about that
dolske
well, I'm less certain about if you download a Google partner-build. (ditto for Yahoo) ISTR those might have the toolbar prebundled.
lakitu
separate yourselves from google toolbar, - NEVER bundle it
NEVER
dolske
certainly the releases downloaded from mozilla.com do not include it.
lakitu
not to sound like a paranoia freak.
but that's not cool
i'll show you what i saw: https://www.google.com/history/lookup?hl=en has all your websites you visit ever if you have google toolbar installed
not just thru google - anywhere anytime
i uninstalled google toolbar.
dolske
yeah, we'd never ship something by default that sends all your visits to someone.
lakitu
next gen privacy stealing
: google. =(
very good my man, you are next gen privacy KEEPING ;) m' man!
M' Man.
=PP
'keep it' up ;)
without much-needed regulation, it's only going to get more invasive. write your congresspersons.. seriously. it seems important
GarrettW
oh please. you agree to a EULA.
when you use it
if they do something thats not in the EULA, than sue em
lakitu
GarrettW: but people don't read those things. no one knows they're doing this, not the common user
GarrettW
dont look to the government to solve all your problems, that's not what they're there for
lakitu then that is the fault of the user who does not read the EULA. sorry.
people have to take responsibility.
lakitu
no - it should be opt-in, not opt-out, as the sites say. they track you if you don't agree, by AdSense tracking cookies. check it out: http://www.google.com/privacy_ads.html
it should be your choice to OPT-IN, not your duty to find out you should opt-out
that's a good phrasing, actually
anyway - i just came to ask, fo rhtat reasion
for that reason
thanks dolske, seriously, it is probably priddy important.. especially being such a cool company/software as firefox/mozilla
non-profit
right?
dolske
we try! :)
lakitu
=D
i've always loved firefox
even used netscape, when i was wee
(right? mozilla?)
dolske
well, Mozilla was spun out of Netscape as they were absorbed into AOL.
but same heritage.
lakitu
ah - "out" being the key word.. =D
ok
well - take care, bye guys
going to spread some infos somewhere else =)
pabs3
anyone know if there is an option/extension to try https first when typing an address without http/https/ftp at the start?
auscompgeek
Why do you want to do that?
MikeChelen
why are some pages still loading in new windows, even with "open new windows in a new tab instead" is enabled?
auscompgeek
It's probably because they were opened using JavaScript.
MikeChelen
auscompgeek: ahh yes, is there any way to stop it without disabling javascript?
auscompgeek
Install Tabberwocky is one way ;)
Cork
MikeChelen: you can change an about:config settings is you don't want the extension
auscompgeek
I thought there was a pref&
Cork
auscompgeek
Ah&
MikeChelen
Cork: that worked great, thanks!
Cork
np
MikeChelen
auscompgeek: might try as well some time
this used to be possible through the preferences gui
Cork
ya untill they shipped https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274143
anyway the per 2 fixes most sites though
MikeChelen
it seems like there should be an option to really prevent _all_ new windows
auscompgeek
Why do you want to disable Ctrl+N?
alabd
Good day all , is there any other java runtime that can be used with firefox except openjdk and sun jre ?
MikeChelen
auscompgeek: because it never happens except when unwanted, such as by websites
auscompgeek
Web pages can't send Ctrl+N to Firefox&
MikeChelen
auscompgeek: new windows get created from sites like gmail
auscompgeek
wfm
MikeChelen
wfm?
Cork
MikeChelen: Works For Me
MikeChelen
gotcha
ivazquez|laptop
So, I'm successfully using -no-remote on Linux in order to open a second profile, but when I close all windows of the first profile and run firefox I find that it opens a window of the second profile. What else do I have to pass in order to get the second profile to ignore requests via the firefox script/executable?
Cork
uh... thats strange; thats exactly what the -no-remote should do...
ivazquez|laptop
As long as I don't close all of the first profile's windows it's fine. Only when I do that does it act weird.
Cork
but that doesn't mean you can call to the "default" profile and start that
you can only start a firefox instance without -no-remote if you don't have any other profiles open
auscompgeek
yeah.
Cork
so if its closed and you have another profile open; you can't open it again
ivazquez|laptop
Hrm. Alright, will keep hunting then, thanks.
Cork
i didn't think you would get an error when you call that actually, thats what you get in windows actually
uh...
*i didn't think that would work att all, and get an error
LOL
dwt
Hi there! I've got a firefox that seems to work perfecly - however I am not able to kill it with kill 9 <pid> (even as root)
Now I'm a bit stuck on how to debug this to find out why this is happening
so I'd appreciate some help
Mac OS X Snow Leopard (10.6.2)
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