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bigon
mzz: not sure howto debug
with firefo
x
mzz
bigon: if I had to guess I'd say this is some plugin or library or other, because I really don't remember seeing anything like this.
bigon
mzz: I've posted some link but it should be non linux only
mzz
bigon: but basically: make sure firefox is idle (so there are no unrelated connect calls), then "gdb -p $(pidof firefox-bin)" (or just 'pidof firefox', depends on what kind of build you're using), then wait for the (gdb) prompt, enter "break connect", then "c"
bigon: it should give you a backtrace. enter "c" on the prompt again a few times, then "q" to exit out of gdb
err, wait
make that "bt" to get the backtrace, *then* "c", etc, then "q"
Leonard
mzz: Not permissions.sqlite anyways - I'm thinking maybe it'd be an idea to just have a whole new profile and live with having to save new passwords etc that I can't salvage? Think that's sensible? I guess profiles do just screw up every so often
mzz
Leonard: they really shouldn't. Anyway, if you copy everything from the old profile to the new one it really should also break (and you know at which point it did) or end up with a new working profile that's near-identical to the old one.
Leonard: so I think I'd try that
bigon
mzz http://pastebin.com/m377d4eba
mzz
(I'm probably overlooking something obvious but I should be asleep)
bigon
oh
         

mzz
bigon: fascinating.
bigon
pcsc (smartcard) module
mzz
bigon: I'm assuming you get the same stack if you "c" and "bt" again? What are those libraries?
bigon
yep
mzz
so at this point the real question is how are those libraries getting loaded
libbeidpcsclite that is
bigon
it's a security module to use belgium E-ID card
Leonard
thanks for the advice mzz
catch you all later - I think I'll not do at at 12:13am :)
bigon
mzz: unloaded the module and no more conenction
enigmus
Does Firefox support a zoom image scaler that looks better than the default on 3.5? (it's all pixelated, very ugly, not smooth at all -- Chrome does much better, or Gimp for that matter)
Digicrime
i fixed my firefox
reinis
why is it that firefox has different keyboard shortcuts on linux?
Enselic
what shortcut for example, and different to what?
diz_Child
?
i got a firefox-3.6.tar.bz2 from firefox.com, but how can i install it to ubuntu?
Enselic
diz_Child: extract, ./configure; make; sudo make install
reinis: what shortcut for example, and different to what?
diz_Child
Enselic: there is no makefile yet...
Enselic
diz_Child: you get a makefile when you run configure
Peng
diz_Child: It's a binary. Extract it. Bang, installed.
Unless you really did go out of your way to download the source.
diz_Child
yes, it's a bin
Enselic
oh
diz_Child
but when i run the firefox-bin, it doesnt work...
         

Peng
diz_Child: Run ./firefox
diz_Child: Don't run firefox-bin directly.
reinis
Enselic: Ctrl+E doesn't work, for instance
Enselic
what is Ctrl+E supposed to do?
reinis
or Ctrl+1-0
diz_Child
oh i got the problem.
reinis
Enselic: focus the search box
Enselic
reinis: what? It has always been Ctrl+K on all platforms as long as I've used Firefox, which is pretty long
Windows, Linux, Mac
diz_Child
there is already an old FF @my sys...
reinis
Enselic: there are alternatives, imagine that
Enselic
reinis: what do you mean?
you mean Ctrl+E used to work? on what version does it work?
reinis
it's always worked on windows
Enselic
in what version of firefox
reinis
it's been there since fx was called Phoenix iirc
it's also used by windows explorer
diz_Child
should i uninstall the old one, then to run the new one?
reinis
Chrome supports it too
however, when I use ubuntu, I find that it just does nothing
same with Ctrl+1 or Ctrl+9
they normally focus the first or last tab
Enselic
I don't know why Ctrl+E doesn't work any longer, but I recomend starting to use Ctrl+K instead since that seems to be the current standard
reinis
Enselic: no, it doesnt
Enselic
it doesn't what?
reinis
seem to be the current standard since it doesnt work in windows explorer
yet ctrl+e does
and I mainly use windows on the desktop
I just wonder who thought that it would be better if ctrl+e did nothing
Enselic
if really want to find that out you should at least ask it in the official channel
Peng
It looks like the alternate keyboard shortcut is Ctrl+J on Linux.
Firefox tends to follow platform UI practices. This is probably one of those situations.
Enselic
reinis: I think I know why it doesn't work with Ctrl+E in Linux, because Linux doesn't have Explorer
Peng: exactly
reinis
I don't really care, I just want to be able to use it like I'm used to
so, what about Ctrl+n?
Peng
You can use the keyconfig extension, or some equivalent that works on modern Firefox versions.
reinis
Peng: and reconfigure the keys manually?
Enselic
I think you'll find a hard time convincing the developers to adapt Firefox on Linux to Windows-specific details
reinis
fu*k them then
Peng
Well you seem to be out of options, then.
Enselic
I don't understand why you are upset
the best solution to me is pretty clear: start using platform independent keyboard shortcuts
reinis
what about Ctrl+1?
Enselic
why are you asking us this?
reinis
on linux it seems to be alt+n
Enselic
we have nothing to do with it
complaining to us won't really make a difference
reinis
I'm asking because I thought that it's a common problem and somebody may had solved it
Enselic
That annoys me too but I just adapt to whatever platform I'm on
Peng
Ctrl+L works for me on Linux.
Oh, Ctrl+1. That's what I get for using a small font...
reinis
ctrl+k sucks anyway, I need two hands to use it
same for ctrl+j
lxsameer
hi , can any one give me a link about howto compile firefox and its dependencies from source on a 64bit linux?
Peng
http://www.google.com/search?q=build+Firefox ? :D
ss
lxsameer: If it's not on developer.mozilla.org, you want #developers on irc.mozilla.org
But I'm pretty sure it's been documented.
Didn't I used to be an op in this channel? Weird.
lxsameer
ss there is alot of doc in mozilla.org and i get mixed up with theme , so i'm looking for a guide to choosing one of them
ss
lxsameer: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Developer_Guide/Build_Instructions/Linux_Prerequisites
Should just work.
We have build machines that build on 64-bit
Peng
I would have assumed you were an op. Huh.
ss: Last I saw you were set +o was 2010-01-06. No idea what's wrong.
You are identified...
ss
Yeah, I just identified.
But whatev
Peng
+s? I didn't mean to do that. I didn't know I could.
(Sorry for the spam, was just checkin' something.)
ss
Heh
Thanks anyway
Peng
If you're an impostor who kicks everyone, I'm going to be totally embarrassed. :P
ss
Haha
You should know better than that. I'm pretty sure a /whois shows who I am.
Peng
It does show you have a "firefox" cloak.
And that you're identified.
ss
Then I'm me
Peng
Yup. Otherwise I wouldn't have done it.
I'm just paranoid. :P Anyway!
ss: If you don't get auto-opped in the future, poke mconnor or #freenode or something. I'll be happy to op you, but I'm offline more often than ChanServ. :P
ss
Yeah, no worries.
It doesn't usually matter for this channel.
mzz
Peng: any op can set any channel mode, unless chanserv's modelock makes it undo it
Peng
:)
naruto_pr0
hello
where i can browser the firefox source code ?
Peng
naruto_pr0: http://mxr.mozilla.org/
naruto_pr0: http://hg.mozilla.org/
naruto_pr0: Tarballs are at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
naruto_pr0
thank you
Buck
hey
does anyone have a link to a decent extension making tutorial for 3.5 or 3.6? All the ones I find on google are for 1.0 to 3.0
CruNcher
Minefield Nighty = 1.4 GB, Namaroka = 614 MB <- is this difference normal and where does it come from (160 pages) ?
i mean Minefield is consuming over 3x the memory
ehh 2x
kbrosnan
Buck: the basics are the same
CruNcher
hmm maybe a plugin then :(
that goes wired
tree-style tab showed often that it doesn't like the nightlys with strange behaviour
especialy this windows xp kernel overloads are strange in the current nightly
when switching between tabs CreateThread is causing the Kernel to explode for several minutes
was more stable a week ago :(
but therfore Namoroka seems to run very smooth once loaded the 160 sites even with the low memory consumption very nice and smooth :)
kbrosnan
likely, they just turned on out of process plugins
CruNcher
that was of
TomyLobo
hi
how do i get rid of that new, annoying feature that puts new tabs right after the current tab?
Buck
that's built in now?
awesome
I can uninstall the plugin
TomyLobo
it sucks for my style of reading forums, though
Buck
=(
TomyLobo
i have like 8 tabs with sub-forums. from those, i select the threads i want to read by ctrl-clicking them. in 3.5 this resulted in having a bunch of threads right after the last of those 8 tabs
now i have them mixed with the sub-forums
Buck
yeah
I like the new functionality
maybe you'd have to install some kind of plugin to get it back
TomyLobo
:D
what is the plugin called?
yours
Buck
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1956
but it doesn't work in 3.6
maybe Tab Control is more useful for you
TomyLobo
browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent -> false
hah!
Buck
oh
that could work :P
marquinos
Hi!
Where is the room for Mozilla localization?
do you know it, please?
Thanks in advance! ;)
rjohnson19
#l10n on irc.mozilla.org
marquinos
thanks rjohnson19 :D
ShereKhan
I am running Firefox under Windows Vista. For security reasons, I am using a non-admin account for day-to-day usage. But Firefox does not automatically update, I have to manually launch Firefox as administrator to get it to update. Is there any way around this?
rjohnson19
Not really, a non-admin account can't write to Program Files.
ShereKhan
Thunderbird handles this just fine
kbrosnan
install firefox to c:\users\public\programs or somewhere else that is writeable
ShereKhan
It downloads the update, and then prompts me for the admin password whenever it needs to update. Firefox doesn't even notify me that I should upgrade
kbrosnan
unless it instaled to a different location like what i suggested, thunderbird should have the same restriction
ShereKhan
Nope. C:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird
kbrosnan
who is the owner?
ShereKhan
Administrator
There's no daemon or addon or anything I can get that just prompts me for my admin password to install updates, or at least notifies me when updates are available?
rjohnson19
I thought the newest version was capable of notifying non-admin users about upgrades, even if they can't install them.
ShereKhan
New feature in 3.6 the?
s/the/then/
Hm, guess you're right
I just updated to 3.6 manually, and now I can actually search for updates from non-admin user. This used to be grayed out.
rjohnson19
ShereKhan
Allright
Let's hope it's fixed, then :o
I'll just wait for the next time my FF updates on my work computer, and then check if my home computer notifies me of any upgrades :o)
CyL
Is FF3.6 already on the Ubuntu repos?
Peng
Why don't you check?
CyL
Peng: maybe it's available on non-official repos...
Peng
CyL
Peng: thanks
I'm with karmic...
I'll wait for a while...
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