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gavin
(Action) sighs
Peng
Woah.
Sonjaaa
error launching browser window:no xbl binding for browser
halp !
smoothop
quick question, on firefox, i sintalled this ask toolbar by accident, and i removed the addon, but whenever i type say like water bottle into the location bar and hit enter
it still serches ask.com
instead of google
rjohnson19
I think you need to reset keyword.URL in about:config
smoothop
rjohnson19: 1000 thanks to you
rjohnson19
np
nslater
heya, i have a question. i have a table at the bottom of my page, and im updating and removing rows in it. but if i remove a bunch of rows, the document window doesn't shrink to fit the smaller table
is there any way of forcing firefox to redraw the window?
hackoo
thunderbird is not downloading the latest gmail messages..
         

triple_xxx
hello
why do they make you register to get in this chatroom????
need help running firefox in ubuntu and its seems to have slowed down after updating fasterfire fox????
anyone experience a slow internet connection after installing add-ons is there a rule of thumb for waiting on updating add-ons????
Peng
triple_xxx: The channel is +R due to Freenode's recent spam issues.
triple_xxx: Maybe you should check Fasterfox's changelog or forum (if it has one) to see what's changed.
triple_xxx
Peng sure this isn't the goverment keep track of you....
Peng I think I'm going to wait as a rule of thumb 1 to 2 months as a rule of thumb just got busy pushing to many check boxes
hopefully this wont happen again
Samus_Aran
so... I click on a link to a .torrent file and Firefox informs me that /tmp/file.torrent can not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. why ? the helper application is Transmission, and it exists and works fine
on other sites I click on .torrent files and it launches them in Transmission
well, after it pops up a box with "[x] Do this action from now on" which it won't remember. but I can click Okay and it loads in Transmission
Cork[home]
Samus_Aran: check what contect type is sent with the file from the server
Samus_Aran
Cork[home]: how would I do that in Firefox ?
Cork[home]
the extension http live header for example
Samus_Aran
is there a reason Firefox won't tell you what it's trying to open with ?
Cork[home]
donno >_>
Samus_Aran
not very intuitive to need to install extensions in order to download files
Cork[home]
well the content-type is what the server says is in the data it sends
it will be something like application/torrent or something
this string might be wrong, and thats why you get problem
Samus_Aran
sure. and Firefox should show you the type and what application it's failing to load
installed live http headers
Cork[home]
open its sidebar before you click the torrent link
Samus_Aran
application/x-bittorent
that's missing an "r"
but that doesn't explain Firefox's message that the helper application doesn't exist
Cork[home]
its prob as simple as firefox doesn't know how to handle that content-type
Samus_Aran
I'm also not sure how this helps me, as the Applications tab in the Firefox Preferences doesn't use content-type
if it doesn't know how to handle it, then it should open the standard "what do you want to do with this file type" box
auscompgeek
it actually does, it just hides it
by default
Samus_Aran
how can I display it ?
Cork[home]
well i'm not a big user of torrents, so auscompgeek, you take this? :D
auscompgeek
nah
:DD
I don't use torrents.
         

Samus_Aran
Cork[home]: this isn't specific to torrents. I am trying to open an application when I click on a given file type
feel free to replace application/x-bittorent with audio/mp3 or application/text
Cork[home]
application/text??
auscompgeek
application/text isn't an official MIME type
it's text/plain
Samus_Aran
yes, yes. that's fine. Firefox should be able to open any application type, whether or not it includes a typo
auscompgeek
there's a bug on that :DD
Samus_Aran
oh ?
auscompgeek
and an add-on :DD
Samus_Aran
which one ?
auscompgeek
let me get the url
Samus_Aran
thank you
auscompgeek
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8207
Samus_Aran
auscompgeek: I don't receive the download popup, though
auscompgeek
...
the bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57342
unless if that isn't what you're after :D
Samus_Aran
that's another bug that has affected me in Firefox for years. Opera and other sane browsers merely have the option of "Open in <name of browser>" as one of the options. Firefox lacks this
but in this case, it has nothing to do with the download box, other than I don't receive a download box
auscompgeek
actually, sometimes Opera goes insane...
Samus_Aran
I receive an error message that it can't open a helper application, no download box at all
auscompgeek: sometimes, sure. most apps do. but it has had "Open in Opera" as one of the download options for a decade
auscompgeek
but sometimes it doesn't display that, which pisses me off.
Samus_Aran
I dislike how Opera breaks things on new releases sometimes. for instance the download box often has a greyed out "Always do this" option, or else, like Firefox, it has a checkbox you can check, but it still pops up the next time
not sure why browser makers have soooooo much difficulty with something as basic as what to do with file types
I've never seen any web browser that does this simply and non-buggy
on the versions where Opera works, it's the closest
another issue
anyone know of an extension to make Firefox have a right-click option for images to hide them ?
(not disabling all images on the page)
e.g. to permanently block 10MB animated GIF avatars on forums and such
or advertisements that think it's cool to use strobe lights
Cork[home]
that sounds like the job for adblock plus :)
Samus_Aran
ah, thanks. seems to do what I want. I looked at many ad-blockers, not sure how I missed that one. it has 67 million downloads
Cork[home]
its THE adblocker :)
Samus_Aran
er, I know. because I was searching for image blockers
not ad blockers
they should include "block images" in their description. it doesn't show up on Google
I don't want to block advertisements
Cork[home]
its superius to anything i've seen anywhere
Samus_Aran
just selective images
Cork[home]
Samus_Aran: so just don't prenumerate on any default rules
and you can block what ever images you want
Samus_Aran
I mean in terms of finding that extension. I couldn't find it because they only mention blocking advertisements, not images
Cork[home]
thoe i can't understand why anyone WOULDN'T want to block ads...
Samus_Aran
because advertisements are what pay for the web pages I visit ...
Cork[home]
you can still block it
Samus_Aran
I have a conscience ?
Cork[home]
adblock has a setting for you to download the image, just not show it
Samus_Aran
if I was running a web site, I wouldn't want people to block my revenue stream
Cork[home]
the web is freeking useless if you show all ads >_>
Samus_Aran
so I won't do it to others. with the exception of tracking ads (I have those banned)
Cork[home]
Samus_Aran: as i said, all they check is that you DOWNLOAD the image, not that you show it
Samus_Aran
but simple banner ad images and so forth I would never ban
Cork[home]: most of them only pay when people click on them. I do click on ads if they seem interesting
Cork[home]
O_o'
Samus_Aran
most of it is just crap, and I ignore
Cork[home]
well, what ever amuses you...
well i run a website my self, (for a local group), and i would never think of the idea to put ads on it to pay for it, thats just absurd
i want to put the site up; so i'm the one that should pay for it >_>
(and i am)
Samus_Aran
Cork[home]: and what about once the site gets very popular, and it costs you $1200/month to run it ?
this is when advertisement pays the cost of the site, which an individual would be otherwise unable to do on their own
Cork[home]
well, if it gets to costly i would have to look for a co financier or limit its trafic to lower the cost
Samus_Aran
I run many web sites as well, but they're not heavy use
Cork[home]
ads doesn't exist in my vocabulary
its the plage of the internet
Samus_Aran
I am a member of numerous heavy use sites, and most of them survive solely on advertisements
and/or donations
Cork[home]
ya, donation is a functional solution
i've seen sites that want to pay the bill with ads, you almost can't find the content for all the junk they put in there >_>
kdeuser^
hey
How do I hide the menubar in firefox linux ?
I am using firefox 3.6 RC
Samus_Aran
kdeuser^: you could use one of the kiosk add-ons
kdeuser^
what is that ?
Cork[home]
kdeuser^: or you would have to use the userChrome.css
kdeuser^: the hide menu is windows only
its not part of what the other user interfaces have
mac have no program allowing to hide the menu, same for gnome
kde isn't supported my firefox
kdeuser^
ok
Cork[home]
the hide menu was added to windows to follow the look of ie
kdeuser^
ok
That look is nice.. compact and more screen space
Cork[home]
well i add my bookmarks up there, so its no big change for me
(had to move them back to the original toolbar in windows)
kdeuser^
:)
Samus_Aran
Opera's user interface is amazing. every little thing can be moved to any part of the screen or removed altogether. would be nice if Firefox updated its UI
Cork[home]
https://wiki.mozilla.org/firefox/3.7_Windows_Theme_Mockups
its on its way
Samus_Aran
those looks are some of the worst in the business
so much superfluous crap
so much white space
Cork[home]
glad you like it
Samus_Aran
when I browse the web, I like to browse the web. :)
not use up half my screen on buttons
almost half of the top area is whitespace in those shots
same for the XP theme with 1-inch high kiddie buttons wasting screen space
the Win95 theme was lightyears ahead
kdeuser^
yeah. i love the classic theme of windows
looks very professional
Cork[home]: is the UI mock only for windows or all platforms ?
mock up*
Cork[home]
windows
kdeuser^
Ah..
Cork[home]
no change planed for the other as far as i know
Samus_Aran
if ever I'm forced to endure using a Windows computer (only if I'm paid by the hour), first thing I do is use the standard windows theme, with yellow-to-red and blue-to-black gradients. simple, space-efficient, easy to grasp.
Cork[home]
https://wiki.mozilla.org/firefox/4.0_Windows_Theme_Mockups
might be of interest too
kdeuser^
Nice..
Samus_Aran
Cork[home]: all I can see is the wasted screen real estate
Cork[home]
bug remeber these are mockups, they don't have to be even close to what will be in there
Samus_Aran: what??
its much more compact then what we have to day
Samus_Aran
Cork[home]: define your question
Cork[home]: how do you figure that ?
Cork[home]
my looking at the themes?
kdeuser^
There is no menu bar and no title bar as well
Cork[home]
*by
Samus_Aran
efficiency is a tab bar on the left of a widescreen monitor, a menu sharing the line with the remaining functions (url, etc.)
10% whitespace
aucg
ok, first mistake was to connect using a DSi :P
Samus_Aran
in every one of those screenshots, the lines are twice as high as the font, so that's 50% dead space right there
widgets should be functional, not "big and pretty"
Cork[home]
Samus_Aran: so use custome themes, if you don't like it
the default theme need to look good, work well; and most importantly be intuative for the normal user
Samus_Aran
then remove the bookmark bar, it's highly confusing
I work with casual web browsers in my work. I've yet to meet anyone that uses or even understands it
they use the bookmark menu
aucg
hang on, did my uncle disconnect me?
Samus_Aran
it's a huge amount of wasted screen real estate
kdeuser^
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3699
Cork[home]
aucg: how would we know :))
kdeuser^
seems compact,a little cramped
aucg
cork: was i disconnected? :)
kdeuser^
yes.. you joined back
Cork[home]
[2010-01-17 10:30:52] * auscompgeek (n=aucg@unaffiliated/auscompgeek) Quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
aucg
1/2 an hour ago...
auscompgeek
can't believe my uncle thought I turned off Norton...
when I would never do such a thing.
he made my Minefield lose my app tabs :(
Samus_Aran
Norton products have sucked since DOS
auscompgeek
heh
but still...
Samus_Aran
slow, buggy
auscompgeek
yeah, but I wouldn't turn off security software...
Samus_Aran
Avast! or AVG for viruses, hardware firewall/router
I turn off Norton :p
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