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Peng
ThomasWaldmann: Same client sent both 3115 and 3117?
ThomasWaldmann
yeah, i searched the logs, it is always from that japanese ip
HTTP_IF_MODIFIED_SINCE == 'Fri, 41 Oct 3119 32:69:11 GMT'
owen1
Peng: ok, it's not in .macromedia. i saw there folder names with the sites i went to and some config files.
Peng
I guess somebody has a _really_ broken clock?
Or it's the Doctor.
owen1
Peng: about:config does show me some stuff. i just can't find it on my machine!
Peng
owen1: I dunno, then. :\
auscompgeek
wtf...
owen1
Peng: thanks for helping
smeea
hello guys. i'm having problem with extensions compatibility check in 3.6b4. i set extensions.checkCompatibility to 'false' at about:config but it still check my extensions
         

cryton
yes
it changed
smeea
cryton: what i should do now to work with non-compatible extensions?
cryton
let me try and work it out
try setting extensions.checkCompatibility.3.6b to false
the pref has been expanded to include version information too
Digicrime
hi
cryton
smeea see http://www.oxymoronical.com/blog/2009/11/Changing-the-checkCompatibility-preference
smeea
cryton: oh tnx, now it works
extensions.checkCompatibility.3.6b - this was the solition
auscompgeek
Google is your best friend :)
smeea
auscompgeek: i try it, but he offer me old extensions.checkCompatibility
auscompgeek
you can also use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/15003
smeea
it works earlier :3
auscompgeek
we changed it, yes, it's controversial, the pref change...
Digicrime
bye
auscompgeek
O/
BartZ
auscompgeek: "Google is your best friend :)" - are you Google employee? why do you repeat this marketing slogan?
auscompgeek
no...
I wouldn't be here if I worked at the Googleplex...
BartZ
BTW - if "Google is my best friend", then, I guess, my best friend's browser is also the best browser for me. this would mean Google Chrome/Chromium, not Firefox :-)
(especially that JS performance is much better in Google's browser, but I'm digressing ;->)
auscompgeek
:P
Chromium is still open source...
BartZ
not all of it.
auscompgeek
:P
Google used Chromium
robgleeson
once chromium comes out of testing for Linux - or with extension support, i'm on it.
         

BartZ
oh, OK, sorry, you are probably right - Chromium (not Chrome) is probably fully open source.
robgleeson
i like firefox, but idk. chromium is appealing too.
it is very fast - low memory footprint. All it's missing is extensions.
auscompgeek
Chrome already has add-on support :P
robgleeson
i'm on Linux.
last time i looked at it, the chromium builds didn't
auscompgeek
Chrome is based on Chromium...
robgleeson
i know :)
auscompgeek
which uses Webkit iirc...
robgleeson
but "Chrome" hasn't been released on linux yet
just chromium nightly builds, and an alpha - iirc.
auscompgeek
you know, Chrome has a Greasemonkey subset built in iirc...
I say subset b/c I think it doesn't support GM_* functions...
robgleeson
don't know anything about greasemonkey to be honest.
the only thing i don't like about chrome is that it phones home - but you can turn that off.
auscompgeek
really?
robgleeson
when you do turn it off, it _really_ is off.
yeah, little option for it.
auscompgeek
where?
robgleeson
on the chromium builds, i expect for chrome as well.
i can't remember, its not too hard to find.
in options somewhere
BartZ
robgleeson: "when you do turn it off, it _really_ is off." - how have you tested it? have you used some packet analyzer to watch traffic?
robgleeson
yeah i did
i used wireshark.
BartZ
describe exact procedure. did you wait some time with the browser opened?
robgleeson
lol
ok
i ran wireshark before, with the option enabled, and then i tried it without the option enabled - same requests weren't fired off.
you can try it yourself if you dont believe me :)
auscompgeek
#defocus please :P
BartZ
seems to me that your experiment doesn't prove that "when you do turn it off, it _really_ is off.". there are numerous "features" in the browser that "phones home", ie. contact google.
auscompgeek
lol
robgleeson
BartZ: why don't you try it yourself?
im not going to argue about what I saw.
BartZ
the best approach would be to carefully audit source code. unfortunately, this is not an option for one person, for rather obvious reasons.
robgleeson
i don't care that much.
BartZ
which brings me to my main point -- being an open-source app doesn't mean that you are not dealing with a spyware :-)
robgleeson
BartZ: have you tried doing this in wireshark?
because i think you'll find it won't send anything home
BartZ
robgleeson: I played a lot with wireshark and Firefox, to learn about so-called "safebrowsing" protocol. the exact same protocol is used in Google Chrome, too.
as long as you don't turn off so-called "safebrowsing" browser connects to Google in regular intervals, and also when you visit some particular URL (long story, I'll not describe all details here)
anyway, if you are more interested in this, look for starters into comments in Mozilla's bug 368255 and my little project here: http://bb.homelinux.org/firefox/sb2/
robgleeson
ill look at it later BartZ
BartZ
sure, no hurry. :)
thanks for a chat. I'll go now. bye!
periquto
hello
why firefox giv this error
untrusted connection
when I try to enter to msn or paypal
auscompgeek
b/c it is
periquto
nothing to worry about?
auscompgeek
there is
robgleeson
probably not - most likely leaving an SSL encrypted page, for a non-SSL encrypted page after payment or, whatever.
periquto
this problem is just when I enter the site
the option available is: I understand the risk
and get me out of here
robgleeson
oh, invalid cert probably.
periquto
yeah
is this normal?
robgleeson
well - most likely, nothing to worry about.
if you are paranoid, though - it might be
Gh3rssp
(Action) waves to channel
AstroTurf
Peng: LOL U RACIST!
I AM OFFICIAL MEMBER OF NAACP
MY SITE: U-RACIST.CO.CC
WE R SPONSORED BY NAACP TO TRACK DOWN RACISTS ALL OVER THE INTERNET
ESPECIALLY THOSE RACIST AGAINST AUSTRIANS
LET ME ALERT U ALL NAO: PENG IS RACIST AGAINST AUSTRIAN
AND MY COMPUTER WHICH R NOT HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION XCEPT TO TYPE CAPS
PENG
U HAVE TWO OPTIONZ
HALP ME TO FITE RACISM
OR GO TO COURT FOR RACIST
DONT DENY U RACIST EITHER
rcmaehl: HALP
rcmaehl
?
AstroTurf
PENG RACIST
AGAINST ALL AUSTRIAN
Gh3rssp
whois ss
:s
rcmaehl
Proof?
AstroTurf
AND OLD COMPUTER WITH NO OPTION XCEPT TYPE CAPS
RCMAEHL
HE BAN ME BECUZ HE SAY I AUSTRIAN
Gh3rssp
AstroTurf: stop please
AstroTurf
PILIF12P
STOP WAT
I AM SRS
I AM FROM NAACP
rcmaehl
do you have a log
AstroTurf
RCMAEHL
YES
BUT MY LAWYER SAY TO NO DISCLOSE UNLESS BROUGHT UNDER LEGAL SYSTEM
rcmaehl
...
AstroTurf
WHY U "..."?
U RACIST AGAINST ME TO?
BCUZ I NOT TIPE GUD ENGLISH?
rcmaehl
NO
AstroTurf
:(
rcmaehl
I am not racist
AstroTurf
:(
rcmaehl
Hold on
AstroTurf
RCMAEHL
BEEN WAITING...?
rcmaehl
eh
I cannot do anything without proof
AstroTurf
:(
K, BYE
Gh3rssp
lol
Peng
That's...an awesome hostname.
Gh3rssp
woot
evil-sheek
Under Linux, how do you clear firefox cache?
rcmaehl
...
robgleeson
tools -> clear private data
same as windows iirc
Gh3rssp
fisumo clear cache
:s
no firebot
robgleeson
oh sorry - clear recent history
Peng
Lesson: Peng shouldn't go eat and watch TV. Drama might ensue on IRC.
Gh3rssp
hehe
(Action) is Tanner on Moznet
Peng
Although that hostname probably isn't going to get used again.
Gh3rssp
doubt it
robgleeson
he put a lot of effort into that
Gh3rssp
wait
he said he can't turn off caps locks?
robgleeson
you believe that?
Gh3rssp
no
because
How was s, t r, o, u, r, and f in lower case?
Peng
...That's a good point.
robgleeson
i didnt notice
Peng
I wonder what Hurricane Electric thinks of people using tunnels for vanity rDNS trolls?
Gh3rssp
He's a troll i don't like... The kind of troll i do like are BartZ's
Peng knows who i'm talking about :P
Peng
I know the nick, but I don't remember what it did.
Gh3rssp
he's the one paranoid about Google Safesearch...
Peng
Still not ringing a bell. :(
robgleeson
scroll up
Gh3rssp
Peng: lol
Peng
Oh.
Gh3rssp
"Developer banned from #developers, #fx-team, #firefox, and #sumo"
Peng
Man, I leave you guys alone for 2 hours....
Gh3rssp
that's why i pull cww's some nights just to keep the trolls away :P
Pip
Hi, is there a way to know the location of a bookmark by searching in the bookmark manager ?
The library
webbb82
i am having some problems launching firefox 3.6 beta 4 when i first downloaded it it would launch when clicked but all of a sudden it wont laucnh no matter what i do
switchgirl
http://paste.ubuntu.com/330034/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.6pre) Gecko/20091125 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Shiretoko/3.5.6pre
crashes upon iplayer playing fullscreen
alabd
Good day everyone , how use gcj fore firefox JRE ?
Good day everyone , how to use gcj for firefox JRE ?
Good day everyone , http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=gcjwebplugin how to install it
ubunturos
I have been searching for adding Wikipedia English as a Search Engine (in Web Search) but unable to find only an "English" add-on
could somebody help? (Firefox 3.5.5)
commiebob
good evening
ubunturos
Good Evening :)
commiebob
im betting there is at least a few better than average geeks on freenode, and since google has failed me im hoping freenode wont.
not that this has anything to do with firefox, or mozilla... or really anything even close, but... i feel this is a great venue for this!
robgleeson
freenode is full of geeks
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