from printing
Firefox prints black borders around images that are not present in the web page.

might be a bad interaction with transparency

there is no transparency in the page or in the image, it's all white background

uhsf: 3.5.5?

3.5.2

btw you mean borders around missing images?

no, around visible images

hmm, can't say i've seen it, migth be from the pages css

but just at top and left
the page css is so simple it's easy to see it's not the problem

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224534 says top right, might be it?
anyway, sounds like a regression or something
might be a regression from the compositor rework

a regression is a bug that was fixed but came back again?
do you think it's fixed in 3.5.5?
usually i don't want to upgrade every 0.0.+1 release because it's more hassle than convenient
it's on linux btw
it really messes my prints i will have to go print in a widows ie somewhere

uhsf: if you want to check that current status you would have to check minefield; aka 3.7

Firefox 3.5.2? I count...15 security vulnerabilities that have been fixes in subsequent releases.
uhsf: How is upgrading a hassle? It takes 30 seconds, and most of that is the download.
Oh, I suppose it's a little less convenient if your Firefox install is owned by root, but only a little.

if you're going to upgrade 1 app, upgrade your browser

mavhc: Well, maybe your ssh client/server or SSL library.
Really. that's a silly proposition. Just upgrade everything./

we're slaves to computers

hi folks how i can configure the mime/type in my firefox? it doesnt works with any type

mavhc: I know. I avoid being AFK for more than 12 hours (or however long it takes me to sleep) because one of my web apps crashes a lot. :(
(and I haven't set up something to kick it automatically)
ovnicraft: What do you mean?

when i download a file, cant open it aka. pdf files

hello
holy crap!
what happened?

?

netsplit

hi all
having a weird problem on localhost
on ubuntu mint w. FF 3.5
Warning: Unknown pseudo-class or pseudo-element 'header'. Malformed simple selector as negation pseudo-class argument 'header'.
Source File: http://90.185.113.198/
Line: 0

bye

Error: [Exception... "update.locale file doesn't exist in either the XCurProcD or GreD directories" nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)" location: "JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1.5/components/nsUpdateService.js :: getLocale :: line 549" data: no]
Source File: file:///usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1.5/components/nsUpdateService.js
Line: 549
also this
sorry for flooding... thought it was only two lines

If I fail to auth to a site, the only way I can get FF to prompt me again is to exit and restart. How can I make it forget that I failed?

hello. is there an opensource equivalent for silverlight?

blurry_: moonlight but it requires a ms provided binary and mono which some oss purists don't accept
http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/

kbrosnan: thank you kindly

http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/moonlight.mspx

OK....
I don't know whether mozilla firefox 3.6 or above solved the problems associated with flash content causing abnormal CPU usage
I did not notice any inconvenience first, but 5 minutes of flash content display has slowed the firefox down

How do I disable the feature where firefox remembers my tabs?

tag: what do you mean by remembering your tab?
tag: like, what do you try to prevent the tabs from happening?

no, when I close firefox...and I open it again, it's persisting the pages I had open and re-opening the same tabs every time
Ever since I upgraded to 3.5 or so.
I'm thoroughly annoyed by this feature
I'd like to shut it off, but I haven't found the appropriate property in about:config or any options in the configuration menu which are obvious to me.

tag: Do you install any third-party extension?

Selenium IDE.

It's like the first setting in the preferences, "When I start Firefox ...".

I have it set to "Show my home page"

O
Welll, the only other idea I have is that Firefox is not shutting down properly (e.g. it's getting killed).

most likely the case, this is a laptop

anyone here familiar with grsec and pax?
ive verified twice that something particular breaks firefox
but since these are security hardnening pax particularly for memory restrictions. firefox is doing some REALLY ugly things now aint it. . .

How do I enable following telnet:// links in Firefox 3.5 on Linux?

why does firefox keep pausing/
it seems like it lets me type for 5 seconds, then freezes for another 5 seconds. also, i was holding shift when i typed the / there, so it would have been a ? if things were working properly
is there any way to find out what's going on here?

do you have lots of addons installed?

i have 0 addons installed

thats odd...
running what os?

not that that has anything to do with how i would find out what's going on here

Keep-Left-sign: try <firebot> Vacuum your history/bookmarks, in Tools -> Error Console, paste Components.classes["@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsPIPlacesDatabase).DBConnection.executeSimpleSQL("VACUUM");

i want diagnostic methods, not silly guesses
my history has nothing to do with this
this whole thing has got very silly indeed

Keep-Left-sign: yes it has, when you type the bar i looks through your history

sorry... my diagnostic methods always begin with silly guesses

if the sqlite database is fragmentated it can take a long time

it started off as a nice idea about how i might possibly determine what the cause of a problem is, and now it's just got silly

Keep-Left-sign: except for compiling firefox in debug mode, there isn't really any diagnostic tools

i had similar issues, and after some random guessing, i found it to be some heavy addons. a new profile sorted it out nice and well

so you think this debug me would tell me why firefox keeps freezing?

it might

random guessing is not enough

Keep-Left-sign: when it comes to debugging, preformance problems, there is only one way

heh, i said 'me' instead of 'mode'

eliminating posibilites

elimination... troubleshooting...

a "i want answers a text that tell me whats worn"
it doens't exist

firefox froze like 6 times while i typed that, so i don't blame myself

*wrong

the problem is, i've already tried a bunch of times, and nothing has indicated any possible cause

Keep-Left-sign: have you tried vacuuming your database?

so i need an actual diagnostic utility, not some stupid hypothitical process that's going to take thousands of years

if i may, i would suggest running a new profile, because then you will know if its a firefox

e not i

a firefox issue or a profile issue

it's a firefox issue, definitely

have you tried reinstalling?

since if it were a profile issue, firefox wouuld just say "oh, your profile is messed up"
yes

only firefox is freezing?

surely there's some way to determine what process is keeping firefox from responding for several seconds
yes, only firefox

does that mean that videos can get stuck for 5 seconds too? or only when you're typing?

i mean, if there's no tool that can tell me that, how do firefox devs figure out what to do to the code in the first place?
nah videos are fine
i do have issues with videos, but they're only screwed up on a really old computer
and that computer isn't in front of me

Keep-Left-sign: this might give something https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Debugging_memory_leaks

and i just waited 5 seconds, 5 seconds, 5 seconds, and another 5 seconds to post this message

how do i make firefox allow images to load in wikipedia alone?

ok, what happened just now?

jeez1234: options > content > uncheck "Load images automaticaly" > add Exception

firefox froze again, then everything messed up
then i tried twice to get back on freenode and it wouldn't let me connect

Guest38671: and what do i put as the exception? does it support wildcard chars? thanks!

so, anyway... why does firefox keep freezing for 5 seconds at a time?
i don't want to mess around with 10 million combinations of stuff that might work; i want to determine why the perfectly reasonable config i have right bnow doesn't work

sigh...

(Action) killes freenode

surely people wouldn't try to push firefox as a usable product if there was no way to diagnose it

jeez1234: in the options dialog
jeez1234: after the Load images automaticaly" you have a button "exceptions"

i click on it
type out the exception
reload
images still don't load in wikipedia

<_<

so, uh, where's the debug interface? i want to know why firefox takes so long to respond sometimes

jeez1234: do you want to prevent loading images on other pages, or is the problem that they won't load on wikipedia?

this functionality obviously already exists, or there wouldn't be a firefox released in the first place. so, what part of the help file did i miss

i want to block images in other pages [except wikipedia]

jeez1234: privoxy

fnHatesMyName: why'd i use privoxy? :|

as far as i can tell, even firefox devs don't care to give you control over image loading, so your best bet is a proxy
proxomitron, privoxy, squid, etc

fnHatesMyName: but i'm trying to use a feature they've built in it, which doesn't seem to be working :|

opera has image loading controls, but, well, it's opera, so meh

jeez1234: you might have to check the url of the image

oh, what are you trying to use again?

jeez1234: i'm not sure if it filters agens the site url or the image

i copied and pasted it from the url box

the impression i get from chatting here is that the best way to diagnose a problem is to try random combinations until something works
there MUST be a better way

fnHatesMyName: i've blocked all images, i want to add wikipedia to the exceptions, but wikipedia pics still wont load

jeez1234: adding en.wikipedia.org, wikipedia.org and upload.wikimedia.org
was what i needed

jeez1234: browser? blocking mechanism?

oh yeah, the images are wikimedia commons! :|

(Action) waits yet another 5 seconds

Cork[home]: thanks man :)

np

fnHatesMyName: fixed :D

what's fixed?

fnHatesMyName: if you don't wan't to debug you'll have to keep waiting

my 5s delay isn't fixed

whatever my problem was! :|

Cork[home]: huh?
ok, well, enough of that, <5s delay> back to the subject at hand. how do i find out where this 5s delay comes from?
so, it seems like this isn't the sort of channel where i complain and get actual ff devs to respond.
do they hang out on another irc network?
i would love to see a "mainstream" "web browser" with associated diagnostic tools
i would love to see good advice on where i should apply more scare quotes
if that fails, i'd at least like to see one reason to use firefox over ie, other than ie suppprting activex
blocking activex makes them about equal
what kind of <30s> problem is this channel <5s> meant to help with?

hi

hello
question about firefox+foxyproxy+squid: Sites seem to take way too long a time to fully load. I tried disabling the proxy in Firefox and watched everything go back to normal. Are there certain squid.conf parameters that I can look into that'd make it faster?

Roey: have you checked #squid ? obviously your distance from the proxy and the number of users using the proxy will cause browsing through a proxy to be slower

I have; got no response there
kbrosnan: well my proxy runs locally
and I'm the only user

ahh
http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/SquidProfiling but it looks like it gets to some gritty details

oh my God.
one moment
kbrosnan: thank you very much!
from this I gather that it's just not worth it to use Squid. At all.
for me.

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples looks useful

ah
thank you for that
(giant 4k-line config squid.conf, jesus christ ;)