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jatt
hi, I'm trying to send emails with exim through gmail but I get:
no IP address found for host smtp.gmail.org
message: host lookup for smtp.gmail.org did not complete (DNS timeout?)
lennard
:q
wwe
Night_Elf
Hello all. This could not be the right channel but I'm asking anyhow. It's simple: I have set up a smtp server (it's not the first time) using exim. It works, but at some places emails are directly classified as junk (eg. hotmail does). A newly created domain, a newly created server, the very first email generated is seen as spam. Why does this happen?
petemc
could be any of a dozen or more things
the ip address / netblock its sending from not reputable
Night_Elf
petemc: even the entire block? That means I have to change host provider to avoid that?
petemc
im speculating
hotmail spam filters are hard to figure for a lot of people
Night_Elf
petemc: <<deleted harsh language towards Microsoft>>
petemc
gmail can be tough too, but they have tools for measuring spamminess and explaing where the problem is
Night_Elf
petemc: But I find it very odd this practice that "if it is neutral, default it as spam, unless they are prepared to explain to my spamfilter that they are not spam"
         

petemc
its not really odd, its a reaction to the fact that the overwhelming majority of email is spam
Night_Elf
petemc: It looks so bad to the superiors when the first email of the newly acquired domain, goes to spam. Their eyes read: What have you done?
petemc
then they dont understand how fu*ked email is
Night_Elf
petemc: I know what you mean, and no they don't and they care about bean-counting but not about technicalities. The problem is that now I will face potentially all the servers in the world by convincing their spamfilters that my emails are genuine. This is just wrong.
petemc: there are not any standard things to implement? I've done some things, like reverse-dns to match the forward dns, open-relay checks, will continuously keep an eye on the blacklist, am implementing a slow-down mechanism for any client that gets viruses which send emails, etc.
petemc
Night_Elf: there are things you can do that might help, spf, dkim etc
Night_Elf
petemc: I am reading and rereading all what I can find about these. Including what on the sites of Microsoft and gmail and yahoo is written about their respective spamfilters.
petemc
good job
mrtuple
In the /etc/passwd.client file, do I need to specify a connection port (587) and do I need to escape \?
... as you may have guessed, I have to use an exchange server that wants 'DOMAIN\login' ...
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