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Re: http://wiki.exim.org/FAQ/Performance/Q1002, it says "deliveries per day", how is this usually measured?

by the log? :)

essentially, i'm not exactly sure how to best evaluate the log...
eximstats /var/log/exim_mainlog doesn't exactly tell you anything apart from errors
any ideas how to correctly measure the log to show return a "deliveries per day" figure?
or "deliveries per hour"

deliveris, as local or remote or what kind?
you have to exactly define the task
after that check your configuration, check the log syntax, and grep for the proper thing

phx remote
in the above website it says: seeing ... " [230,911 deliveries in a day: 4,475MB] "
i'm thinking there's already something that can evaluate performance

i can understand that. you're seeing a statistical data without further explanation

*nod*

you'd like to achive this. you'd like to achive an undefined thing.

exactly
best approaching the mailing list?

you'd like to do something, that you haven't even decided
it's like programming without a specification

the specification is there, defined in the url above

best approaching is to FUCING DEFINE your requirements, EXACTLY

i'm asking how to return the figure that is defined within that page

and i'm still asking what i just did

are you retarded or something?

nope, that'd be you

right...

you can't do something without exact specification. but you'd like to. first you have to realize this

it's a simple enough question, if you don't know, it's ok.
dude, the spec is as per the page
i don't understand what can be more simple...

i know. and i already suggested you the sufficient resources to get it done

you said use the logs and grep, that's about as useful as a chocolate penis
i already know this...
thus why i asked if you're retarded, you seem unable to hold a civil conversation

i don't, and i never will hand the complete solution to anyone. i suggest where i'd begin researching on the topic. and i said more than that

at present, you're acting like it's smoke and mirrors
give me some substance to go on

right.
http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch49.html
here you go

if that's the list of commands i'm gonna shoot you

no, it's not

ok, that's a start
<= message arrival
sorry
=> normal message delivery
i presume i need to grep for that

< phx> after that check your configuration, check the log syntax, and grep for the proper thing
beg your pardon?

my issue is that there are binaries such as eximstats and eximgrep which one would presume would be a it more helpful

sorry but i never used those

lol, right

if ever i need to do some statistics, i'd use something like continue= and a database

i'm not familiar with continue=

should i suggest the docs, or can you find it yourself? :)
but where is our rack-packed screwdriver

sometimes a human interpritation to docs is a bit more useful
it helps with conversation too
i'm not really that interested at present to go hunt it down myself
but, since you mentioned it, i'd be willing to hear your take on it
fgrep "2010-05-20 01" /var/log/exim_mainlog | grep -c '<='
seems a bit of a crude way of returning the value; i'd expect there was some pre-existing method to do this; but i guess not
fgrep "2010-05-20 01" /var/log/exim_mainlog | grep -c '=>'
probably want that for delivered

well, you might want to consider [-=]> for grepping

eximstats does exactly what you want

depends if you mean deliveries as per messages, or per destinations

petemc thanks, you're right; turns out i was using it wrong
eximstats -ne -nr -nt /var/log/exim_mainlog
shows me less verbose; before it was useless.
turns out eximstats only shows per hour, but not per day
... figured out i can pipe eximstats, which is nice
fgrep '2010-05-20' /var/log/exim_mainlog | eximstats | grep Delivered

any life in here?

nope, sorry

nice, 2010-05-21 11:29:55 socket bind() to port 25 for address 127.0.0.1 failed: Addre
ss already in use: daemon abandoned
any thoughts on what i can do -- ubuntu server

netstat -a | grep :smtp

tcp 0 0 localhost:smtp *:* LISTEN
online it says i can ignore this error, but it is in the paniclog
and i am not receiving mail on test
is this a conflict with sendmail?

yes

how do i remove sendmail and all its cruft

try #ubuntu ?

so i removed sendmail, how do i reload exim4

are you really sure you want to run a server?

phx: why not?

with such questions...

kill -HUP `cat /var/spool/exim/exim-daemon.pid`

HM2K: thanks
HM2K: so it is dead -- looks like it was not alive, at least not from ps aux | grep exim
how do i give it a try again -- do i need to go through the whole config process
echo "test this" | mail -s testing tim@gmail.com <-- no error, but no message
is there any other way to test?
sorry folks, is this a help channel or just for dev's?

it's a support channel for exim, and not for different linux distributions
so far you had questions related for a given distribution

actually, i am just curious how i can test to see if exim works? piping data to the mail command?
can i ignore the error: socket bind() to port 25 for address 127.0.0.1 failed: Address already in use: daemon abandoned

first, check if the process is running
if it's running, check whether it's bound to all the specified ports
you can ignore that message as far as you don't need it on that port, obviously
if it's running on all the ports, you can start doing case tests for different ACLs, routers, transports and such, this part is testing your configuration itself

no, it is not running, but the mail command doesn't return an error -- the binary /usr/sbin/exim doesn't start -- mail is loaded and runs
can i see if mail maps to exim?
exim is running, but mail messages are not sending

what's on 25/tcp? what mta provides the sendmail interface?

bonhoffer: readlink -f $(which sendmail)
lsof -i :25

yeah it is /usr/sbin/exim4
endmail- 13871 root 4u IPv4 83158 0t0 TCP localhost:smtp (LISTEN)
that is sendmail . . . result of lsof -i :25

did you install something outside of the packaging system?
dpkg wont let you install 2 things that provide mail-transport-agent

petemc: no, but i did install sendmail first, then uninstalled it
just ran dpkg again
followed: http://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-9.10-karmic
currently working through http://wiki.exim.org/TestingExim
everything seems to be working, but i am not getting the mails

what do the logs say?

petemc: sorry, the panic log?

mainlog
there shouldnt be anything in paniclog

looks good to me: http://pastie.org/971037
would it possibly be taking 10 minutes ?

it was delivered to google
it shouldnt, checked the spam folder?

ha! -- yes -- they are all there
would have solved all my problems . . .. wow
thanks guys

Here's one for you. I created a hostlist:
hostlist do_greylist_hosts = !^.*\\d+\.com\$ : ^.*\\d+[x.-]\\d+[x.-]\\d+[x.-] : ^ppp : ^a?dsl : [.-]dynamic[.-] : [.-]a?dsl[.-]
I use it in a block of code to determine if I'm going to greylist an incoming connection. Pretty straightforward.
I missed something though. The above is from a working server. On a second server, I had an older testing version at the end of the line that looked like: \.dynamic\. : \.a?dsl\.
It caused an error that is not clear to me:
>>> check hosts = +do_greylist_hosts
>>> no IP address found for host .dynamic. (during SMTP connection from mail.webtoolset.net [38.101.255.9])
If I change \.dynamic\. to \\.dynamic\\. then I do not get that error and it works as expected. I am just trying to grok why \.dynamic\. results in that weird dns lookup error, when \\.dynamic\\. and [.-]dynamic[.-] do not give me an error.

if it's not a regex it's a hostname that will be resolved
\. is not a valid escape sequence

hi.
phx: can you watch svg files ?
my network setup is: http://yfrog.com/0omailerfp
router forwards port 25 and exchange connections to "srv"
srv has internal address, and runs a vm with the "projects" hostname.
that machine runs exim4
I want to be able to send from that internal vm emails to my domain users.
currently it doesn't work.
I think I need to setup the srv server (which is exchange 2007)
I mean I need to configure it differently.
but I don't know how.
basically I want exchange to behave as smart host (If I understand the terminology correctly)