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wasamasa
tsk tsk
that's just a sed 's/fear/annoyance' 'Litany Against Fear'
wilornel
Anyone knows how I could have a list of all locations where a TAG is defined when I use find-tag?
A sort of tags-apropos but for the token under the cursor?
cutnunt
/GQUIT
Fuco
wasamasa: you kitten hater
wasamasa
lol
Fuco
also everythingisbetterwithpipes
wasamasa
ITYM everything|is|better|with|pipes
Fuco
ce n'est pas la useless-pipe
so what do you think about my newest project
wasamasa
not much
         

Fuco
I know you're are commited stalker so you already know about it
wasamasa
I'm one of these guys using the FS as their database
in all of its ad-hoc glory
Fuco
I see that my readme actually doesn't mention the most important thing :D namely how you query for the files
ack006
this is a question i would jove to ask an applicant at a programming job interview: given the layout of a scrabble board wrt bonus squares and a list of valid scrabble words, find the word which would give the most points. after a correct solution, let's discuss optimization...
*love
according to google, the god word is: oxyphenbutazone
bremner
ack006: what's interesting about that from a programming point of view?
ack006
bremner: well, the algorithm and its correctness, of course! :)
the strategy used for attacking the problem
slugobers
how do i group two actions in elisp so they are undone/redone together?
bremner
ack006: and what's interesting about the algorithm? is there something other than brute force backtracking?
ack006
bremner: that's part two of my question, optimization. assuming the candidate comes up with a correct answer.
TheCowboy
question is biased towards people who have played scrabble enough to know the board and rules
bremner
ack006: yes, but do you know anything non-trivial about the proble?
ack006
TheCowboy: nope, they are provided as part of the test
TheCowboy
you're still likely selecting for people with prior scrabble knowledge since it will be more familiar to them, and not necessarily ability to perform the job
ack006
TheCowboy: one can argue the same thing for fizzbuzz, iq tests, etc.
TheCowboy
yes, I would argue that for those things as well, and it would be a valid point still
except fizzbuzz might be more benign
ack006
especially since it's a bit more involved than fizzbuzz, it is less likely that people will come up with a canned response. if they do have one, chances are they have relevant experience for the job.
cube`
hello
TheCowboy
but since businesses who come up with questions like these don't have a control group to compare against, it's easy to miss that it's not more or less effective than other approaches
and the sample size is likely to be too tiny even with a control
ack006
TheCowboy: sample size? same as any other programming interview (the candidates don't know what questions will be asked)
to_json
What is the job being interviewed for?
         

ack006
to_json: a hypothetical one
to_json
Like, unless I was hiring for Words With Friends, I'd never consider that scrabble question
parsnip
suppose you're in a job interview...
TheCowboy
you would need a sample of people hired using that question compared to a sample of people hired using some other standard question
and it can't be size 2
ack006
TheCowboy: you think companies would share that information?
TheCowboy
google has released some information like that
ack006
link?
TheCowboy
http://www.google.com
ack006
har har
TheCowboy
can't remember, read it awhile ago
to_json
i feel like google's diversity statistics indicate that their hiring practices are kinda trash, though it's hard to say if they're trash before or after the interview stage
probably both tbh
TheCowboy
http://www.wired.com/2015/04/hire-like-google/
miskatonic
maybe they should try to hire Stallman
ack006
:-D
TheCowboy
my view is that hiring is just simply still an unsolved problem, people are just guessing, and if they end up with good hires, they write a blog post explaining why it's the way you should do it
ack006
they could become tax-exempt as a religious organization if they hire RMS
parsnip
in *nix, read write execute are like elements or subsets of open?
ack006
parsnip: job interview question?
miskatonic
but someone could post the job interview of Stallman at Google Inc
ack006
nil
the right answer i think ;)
mrmyers
I feel like there should be a national employment registry or something, that intermediates applicants and employers.
ack006
ELISP> would you like to work at google?\n*** IELM error *** More than one sexp in input\nELISP>
ecbrown
M-x doctor
ack006
:-)
blaenk
I'm trying to copy my backtrace buffer to submit a bug report but it contains control characters that are preventing me from copying the entire buffer
is there a way I can do this, like maybe stripping all of the control characters somehow
ack006
https://ileriseviye.wordpress.com/2008/11/13/lisp-google-killed-in-2001-reborn-in-2008/
rudybot
http://teensy.info/FZAgLVqqN0
ack006
turbofail
man. watching these guys try and figure out wtf is going on with our DSL reminds me of why i never want to work in hardware
TheCowboy
hardware support is a thankless job
rm-r
wow emacs even viewing a pictures ;o
its nice
parsnip
rm-r: i wrote a file in org-mode with screenshots explaining how to check size of user directroy in windows, ability to preview the image while i compose was nice.
*images
rm-r
:)
ntaxid
hello, I was just wondering if someone could help me change the indicator characters when the lines are truncated? I mean the $ and the \ signs?
parsnip
heh, stupid presses in vim:
ESC : wq RET
i mean, in emacs
basphemy
anyone here any good with chrome packaged app/extension DOM semantics per chance?
bpalmer
ntaxid: in emacs (at least emacs since emacs 23), see fringe-indicator-alist
you would need to define your own bitmap
admittedly, that's only for graphical (non-terminal) displays
ntaxid
bpalmer: Thanks for your reply. Yeah, the thing is that I am using the terminal?
bpalmer
I don't know then.
if you happen to be using xemacs, it's easier to tweak.
ntaxid
Ah, ok. I don't really know what xemacs is. I have just moved. :)
I am using emacsclient - emacs 24
bpalmer
Not to worry; xemacs is an alternative to emacs; they're forks of one another from a long while back. Most new users seem to be using emacs.
ntaxid
bpalmer: Also, I am trying to figure out if apropos can help me find out where those characters are? Am I getting apropos right?
bpalmer
apropos works off names; apropos-value works off of the string representation of the values
oh, I'm quite silly.
ntaxid
bpalmer: I guess I have heard a bit about xemacs. But don't really know. Is it the editor that the firefox guy did create?
bpalmer
in terminals, this is hardcoded into the display table
ntaxid
bpalmer: Ah, so it can't be changed if that's the case?
bpalmer
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Display-Tables.html ; you set the character to use by setting it in the slot
rudybot
http://teensy.info/ZXBcSf593t
ntaxid
bpalmer: Thanks, currently reading on it.
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