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forcer
offby1: Was that you?
offby1
doubt it
wish it was though, it was terse and mildly amusing
forcer
Then I'm assuming jlf or maybe ijp.
offby1
or even e1f
one of us literate witty types.
Could be bpalmer too
rudybot: seen bpalmer
rudybot
*offby1: bpalmer was seen quitting five weeks ago, saying "Remote host closed the connection", and then bpalmer was seen joining in #emacs four days ago
offby1
(Action) rubs chin
honeymoon? Vacation? Kidnapping?
bpalmer: ping
dance contest?
jlf
sad to say it wasn't me either
wgreenhouse
wow, magit update on marmalade
holomorph
wgreenhouse: it happened
         

offby1
is that unusual?
wgreenhouse
offby1: it's a once-every-few-months occurrence at best, as opposed to org having an update every time I ask list-packages
forcer
Release When It's Done vs. Continuous Integration, I guess.
I should switch my packages to rolling releases.
ryouma
org maint has not included at least certain new features for a /very/ long time
i'm thinking of switching to master
forcer
Incidentally, "Release When It's Done" is an euphemism for "Release When We Feel Like It", which is a procedural description of "Release Every Once In A While".
wgreenhouse
ryouma: afaik the orgmode.org package.el repo is equivalent to master rather than maint
hence the there's-an-update-every-time-I-turn-my-head-ness
ryouma
ah, i don't use emacs packages
wgreenhouse
forcer: what's Continuous Integration a euphemism for?
offby1
ooh, more colorful-er
forcer
wgreenhouse: Well, I guess I should have used "Rolling Release" instead of CI there, which is a euphemism for "users as beta testers"
<.<
jlf
is ext4 the recommended fs for an external ssd these days?
offby1
egads, the new magit has reworked the keybindings!
bremner
Let's make a Steam-Rolling release of Emacs.
offby1
oh my aching brain
wgreenhouse
bremner: that's the Jacquard loom port, naturally
parsnip
yil fat32 isn't sufficient for backing up virtual machines
forcer
jlf: This seems to have a good summary: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13314/file-system-for-an-ssd-drive
bremner
wgreenhouse: of course. That's the real reason we need MSDOS support.
rudybot
http://teensy.info/qMwitwwCkO
parsnip
(files over 4GB in size)
         

crocket
Has "bug#19731: 24.4; /dev/null is deleted by tramp-sh.el" been fixed in the development branch?
wgreenhouse
crocket: is the bug open?
crocket
wgreenhouse, I am not sure.
wgreenhouse
crocket: why don't you read it and see?
crocket
The bug is maintained in a mailing list, so it's not easy to know if it's closed.
wgreenhouse
crocket: since you already have the bug number, nothing could be easier. try debbugs.gnu.org/19731
holomorph
https://debbugs.gnu.org/19731
too slow
crocket
"Fixed in version 25.1"
wuh
offby1
.oO("Magitians")
crocket
I was just affected by the bug 19731, and I thought I was affected by another bug.
bremner
maggots??
fsbot
Improbable
crocket
I have bad memory.
After hours of fiddling with my computer, /dev/null occurred to me.
jlf
forcer: thx
wgreenhouse
crocket: it appears it was fixed by 24fa4ff944c63cda41ea8ad041f9e434603157fc of git master emacs
of 3 February
crocket
I'm so stupid..
offby1_
why don't most UIs make git hashes into links?
crocket
I even installed Arch Linux again to work around the bug until I remembered the bug.
offby1_
they should be easy to recognize, and it's easy to guess the URL prefix: https://github/something
I'm at least 20% serious
jlf
people upvoting "If available in your kernel and you are feeling adventurous you may wish to consider [...]" for primary filesystems gives me a sad
wgreenhouse
offby1_: have you heard about chris ball's gittorrent thingy?
offby1_
wgreenhouse: maybe; can't remember for sure
wgreenhouse
offby1_: he's trying to make more-or-less globally accessible git repo references even in the event of apocalypse, i.e. github falling over
forcer
offby1_: Circe turns jorgenschaefer/elpy#123 into a link. I'm not sure how to handle git hashes well.
offby1_
gosh, apparently I was more serious that I thought
s/that/than/
wgreenhouse
:)
jlf
does circe support sasl ootb?
offby1_
Sassle Ootbee?
(yeah, I know)
wgreenhouse
offby1_: that's banned in 51 states!
offby1_
ixnay on the asslesay ootbay
jlf
sassle boot??
fsbot
Probably
wgreenhouse
offby1_: https://github.com/cjb/gittorrent (warning, may be terminally hip software, uses node, bittorrent, and bitcoin all at once)
offby1_
heh
wgreenhouse
(I actually think it's pretty cool, but I have a keyboard and must snark)
offby1_
ooh, magit lets me save defaults for magit-log
ooh ooh
jlf
rudybot: he's a magit man
rudybot
jlf: when I change branch in magit, the change is not reflected in the buffer containing a sourcefile. I have to kill buffer and reload file. Is there a better way?
forcer
jlf: Current dev version of Circe supports sasl ootb, yes
jlf
ok i think i'm finally going to give circe a try.. i've had one too many erc annoyances :)
forcer
You can replace them with Circe annoyances!
holomorph
yay!
forcer
jlf: If you encounter problems or annoyances, please do open issues on github (if I am here, I am fine with being told here, too, but issues make it easier to track). There is no problem with "too many issues" or something like that. :-)
jlf
forcer: thanks, i will
forcer
And at the moment, the dev version deserves the name. We have been rewriting a good part of the core, so stuff is breaking in various places. :-D
Actually. brb.
jlf
lucky for me i'm unlikely to be affected by the current instability, considering the fact that it's often as little as several months after i declare my intention to do something that it actually happens
forcer
I knew I had a bug in my earlier commit.
offby1
I knew it!
quotemstr
(Action) goes through three months of emcas-devel messages
wasamasa
don't die
quotemstr
(Action) half expects to find "oh, we rewrote redisplay in React". Kids these days.
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