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dxtr
ryouma: What if the firmware is infected? :P
offby1
,g evil maid
fsbot
[g] http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/evil-maid-attack
http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2009/10/evil-maid-goes-after-truecrypt.html
wgreenhouse
ryouma: if I had a system returned to me, I'd be worried about tiny hardware keyloggers inside the case, etc.
ryouma: I know I'm not qualified to diagnose all that kind of stuff
offby1
I resent your insinuation that my maid is evil
ryouma
then you're not using the hw. i was assuming youwere going to use the hw anyway. got it.
wgreenhouse
ryouma: yeah, I'm saying I'd probably donate returned stolen hardware or so
and just deal with recovery of data from old backups
ryouma
i suppose you could mark your case to detect entry, but that still does nto fix the firmware
wgreenhouse
general purpose computing: it is both the best and worst thing
         

offby1
sort of like alcohol
wgreenhouse
offby1: for some, one leads to the other
wasamasa
alcohol is no solution, but milk isn't either
wgreenhouse
wasamasa: milk is no solution because it's a colloid
max`
is there anyone can help me to check why my auctex can not preview
wasamasa
(Action) rolls eyes
wgreenhouse: this is one of the things I'll hopefully never hear in a playful meetup over a beer
dxtr
wgreenhouse: You have inspired me to go fetch a beer
wgreenhouse
wasamasa: rants about the fundamental insecurity of general purpose computing leading to drink, or bad puns about what kind of chemical composition milk is?
wasamasa
wgreenhouse: the latter
miskatonic
ping miskatonic
benaiah
,tell miskatonic about schizophrenia
wasamasa
miskatonic: did it succeed?
wgreenhouse
ryouma: I wonder if something like the ,,g usb armory,, mounted inside a PC could be rigged up for intrusion detection
fsbot
miskatonic: 13:38 We have sent forth other documentations before you and given them wives and children. Yet none of them could work miracles except by the will of EMACS. Every age has its scripture. EMACS confirms or abrogates what He pleases. His is the Eternal Documentation.
[g] https://www.crowdsupply.com/inverse-path/usb-armory
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2850172/usb-armory-is-the-swiss-army-knife-of-security-devices.html
dxtr
By the way; so if I were to set scroll-conservatively in, say, erc-mode-hook would I use setq or setq-local? Maybe wgreenhouse's example (set (make-local-variable 'foo) 'bar)?
benaiah
dxtr: that example is identical to (setq-local 'foo 'bar)
or possibly (setq-local foo 'bar), don't remember which
wgreenhouse
benaiah: the latter; setq means the variable name is interpreted as quoted
benaiah
wgreenhouse: right, thanks
asti
join #git
dxtr
benaiah: well then. Thanks! I've only been using emacs for a couple of weeks now :p
         

ryouma
ok. got it. tamper detection for the laptop, and a little combination lock thingie for each usb port?
s/ for the laptop//
(Action) expects refutations
benaiah
dxtr: good luck! hope you enjoy it.
ryouma
(Action) starts a business with laptop-sized envelopes, signet rings, and sealing wax
wasamasa
benaiah
wasamasa: the scariest thing so far in that article is that 2008 was 6 years ago
wasamasa
benaiah: I find it scary that most of the dnb albums I enjoy are from 2008
benaiah
wasamasa: is the dnb genre exactly what the name says it is? (never listened)
wasamasa
benaiah: well, yes, that pretty much nails it down
benaiah: the key is of course what is layered on top of the broken beats and bass lines
benaiah: and there is a surprising amount of variety, ranging between samples from scifi movies and live jazz
benaiah
wasamasa: huh
wasamasa
benaiah: I've also heard attempts of adding trance or minimal techno to it
benaiah
jazz over dnb sounds pretty sweet
or, sounds like it would sound
wasamasa
I also find it interesting that it emerged from dubs gone wrong after someone sampled the hell out of a funk break
but uh, currently I'm mostly listening to instrumental hip-hop
asti
in white-space mode, how do I set the "space" character to be shown as "."?
benaiah
"instrumental hip-hop" did not know that was a thing. Is it just producers without rappers?
wasamasa
yes
I eventually renamed it to "Beats"
because it works best for coding
benaiah
wasamasa: I'm gonna have to check that out - recommendations?
wasamasa
benaiah: you could do worse than starting out with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNO7-OYLI9U
ryouma
bluemangroup -- dnb?
benaiah
wasamasa: this strikes me as "early 2000s movie hacking scene background music"
wasamasa
lol
benaiah
pretty good though
ryouma
it would be good for that, or somebody running through the subway to get to the place where the bomb has to be defused
(Action) thinks there is almost nothing new under the sun
wasamasa
benaiah: or for another example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRytCzlueDs
dtw
asti, see M-x customize-group RET Whitespace RET (and variable whitespace-display-mappings).
kovrik
IS there a package that allows renaming the same _symbol_ (not just a portion of text) everywhere in a buffer?
aka refactoring
asti
dtw: I tried to modify that but it doesnt do anything. Like I have "chracter mapping: Char Kind: [Value Menu] Space. Vector List: Vector Characters: Char: ."... But it doesnt display the "."
bremner
if A is before B in package-directory-list, shouldn't A/foo/foo.elc be found before B/foo/foo.el ?
wasamasa
benaiah: or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYn4BHYcgqs
benaiah: or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgM87_BRoAA
benaiah: ok, that should be enough
benaiah
wasamasa: thanks, I'll check those out
wasamasa
(Action) accidentally rm -rf'd his ~/music once
bremner
hrm. OK, that's not my problem.
wasamasa
so I've recovered these recommendations from memory
there should be a lot more
benaiah
wasamasa: I see. I have a music.org, but it doesn't have much in it
wasamasa
especially if I systematically check the years around 2008 for nice releases
benaiah
wasamasa: lol
wasamasa
which should be a lot saner than compiling a list of the big names and snatching all their discographies
benaiah
wasamasa: yeah, that's how I typically explore a new genre if I don't have anyone to ask
it usually takes a while to get a sense for the genre that way
since you don't know which ones were supposed to be unusual
wasamasa
I have a rather unusual interest in records spanning genres
dtw
asti, the customize interface doesn't seem to work, indeed. Setting it manually works: (setq whitespace-display-mappings '((space-mark 32 [46]) (space-mark 160 [164] [95]) (newline-mark 10 [36 10]) (tab-mark 9 [187 9] [92 9])))
asti, the important part is (space-mark 32 [46])
aidalgol
wgreenhouse: ping
wgreenhouse
aidalgol: yo
aidalgol
wgreenhouse: Could you perhaps explain the joke here? http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2373
I looked up "contextualization", and it didn't make much more sense.
asti
dtw: thanks a lot. unfortunately though, it doesnt work for some weird reason. it's not the end of the world I think though ;)
wgreenhouse
aidalgol: I think the joke is that there's always some context you're not taking into account, or some meta-analysis of your analysis that makes your analysis wrong
aidalgol: (IRL, this realization is often a good one, but in the world of this comic it appears to be keeping people from arriving at reasonable, practical compromises via overthinking)
aidalgol
Seems to fit.
rudybot: So why am I still not laughing?
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