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bpalmer
rudybot: apparently people make money on phones now.
rudybot
bpalmer: i read an interesting stat that ms makes more money from android than for win7 phones-- htc pays some sort of licensing fee to ms for some patent, for each android they sell
dakrone
technomancy: hey didn't know you switched, welcome to mu4e :D
RusAlex
bpalmer: it's true
twb
bpalmer: by gold farming in WoW?
bpalmer
WoW doesn't run on phones, does it?
twb
That was what I was slyly hinting at
technomancy
dakrone: oh yeah ages ago
brandure1_: I run my HTML email in mu4e through shr; if you google around you can find the setting for that
twb
Why not just look at the text/plain part
(setq mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "multipart/related")) ;; Discarding text/html and show the text/plain version.
         

catern
not everything has a text/plain part
ane
the mail in spain stays mainly in text/plain
kuner
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cyphix
I use a .authinfo.gpg to store the credentials of my gnus accounts. But now, eveytime I open files in su: or ssh:, it asks to open the file, and then asks for the root or ssh passphrase anyway. So apparently, no reason for it to ask to open the authinfo file. How can I avoid emacs opening this file all the time?
coventry
Can someone remind me of the magic key binding which stops "*Minibuf-1*" from appearing at the head of my iswitchb buffer list?
python476
C-u g ?
coventry
Nope, still there. Thanks, though.
python476
heh
*points for trying*
quotemstr
Let's use strace as a profiler
python476
+1
technomancy
I wonder if there's a bot that spiders github and yells at people who have published code that doesn't have a license
cyphix: I don't know if you can avoid it, but gpg-agent can at least cache the passphrase
python476
i was wondering how much background analysis they were doing
viruses, etc
mloy
how do y'all feel about xwidget_mvp
cyphix
technomancy: But I just don't understand why it tries to access the authinfo file. Is it possible to put the su: and ssh: passphrase inside it? That would at least reduce the number of passwords I have to type each time
technomancy
cyphix: it is quite strange. .authinfo is absolutely the wrong place for that; it should be handled by your ssh-agent controlling your key pairs. but it must be possible I guess; why else would it decrypt it?
cyphix
technomancy: That's the weird thing. I only use it for gnus. Not for root connection.
coventry
You could set debug-on-error to true, quit out of the .authinfo interaction, examine the backtrace to see where it's happening.
debug-on-quit, I guess.
technomancy
what's the name of the feeling you get when the further you read through a shell script the greater your certainty that the person who wrote it has no idea how shell scripts work?
roadie
so is there a correct place for storing email account credentials when using rmail in emacs?
at the moment I have it plain in msmtprc I think
technomancy
roadie: ~/.authinfo.gpg
         

roadie
.. and in fetchmailrc ... I had the same problem when I put it into authinfo.gpg
technomancy: oh, so that is the place ..
that messed up tramp and led to constant gpg pass requests...
like cyphix said
technomancy
local tramp or remote?
python476
technomancy: may we read it too ?
roadie
technomancy: that is the thing - ido C-x C-f would trigger it for local files too - maybe to have everything covered?
technomancy
python476: why not https://github.com/rachelproject/rachelpiOS/blob/master/rachelpios
roadie: for local files without attempting to change the user?
roadie
technomancy: iirc yes - minibuffer would switch automagically
to bring up the completion possibilities
technomancy
roadie: O_O
wow
roadie
but then Fuco told me about depositing keys on the server and all was good. But I have not used authinfo.gpg since then for the mail creds
python476
technomancy: the inversion of `sudo` ?
netrobyatmobile
@technomancy is the guy who wrote lein?
roadie
that being said - I am not savvy - my config is not correct someplace I guess
cant figure out how to have multiple email accounts to send from in rmail ...
python476
netrobyatmobile: both have the same nickname
technomancy
netrobyatmobile: yeah that's me
roadie: oh right; I just remembered I turned tramp off years ago
roadie
technomancy: also tramp would try an ftp connection to ssh and demand a nonexistent password ...
netrobyatmobile
Oh, that's great.
roadie
which I think came from me flushing tramp instead of just leaving it running
netrobyatmobile
Interesting you were using emacs also.
coventry
netrobyatmobile, python476 is mucking around. It's the same technomancy.
technomancy
roadie: (setq ido-enable-tramp-completion nil)
save you a load of headache
netrobyatmobile: what else would I use? =)
Firedancer
How do you people keep your password manager solution portable? Do you carry for example Keepass in usb stick so that you have your passwords when are using some other computer than your own?
roadie
technomancy: much obliged :) will put that in
Firedancer: have you read about KeeFarce? I saw that the other day
apparently it could be adopted for any password manager...
not that anything is 100% anyways
Firedancer
I have heard about that, but yes, if your computer is completely under someones control, you can't guarantee security
roadie
yep
adapted even
benaiah
evening, #emacs
roadie
dobar dan benaiah
never knew about .cache neat
forcer
Firedancer: I use pass(1) on my VPS, so passwords are an ssh session away
roadie
forcer: do you have an automatism cleaning .cache?
forcer
(Recently switched to pass(1) from my own, similar implementation before that)
roadie
the emacs backups?
forcer
144M .cache/
<.<
roadie
excellent - will do
Fuco
868M .cache/ :O
spotify I guess :D
YoungFrog
sorry I missed the beginning. what's .cache ?
forcer
Fuco: Hehe
roadie
hahaha got it
Firedancer
Isn't VPS still a little risky as passwords and private key is in someone else computer?
Fuco
YoungFrog: in your home, it is used as temp space by various programs
instead of /tmp... for reasons
probably privacy
forcer
Firedancer: The private key is password protected. Other than that, the risk seems manageable to me.
Work: 14G.cache/
:-D
nullie
.cache is more persistent than /tmp
Gamayun
1.1G .cache/ -.-
YoungFrog
Fuco: thanks
Gamayun
forcer wins
Fuco
14G is more than 10% of my entire disk :O
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