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gopar
sshbio, Yeah I only see Gnome, Gnome classic and system default. Im on ubuntu 15.04 with Gnome as DE :p
python476
yeah, unless you aim for an IPS panel or DIY ... you're stuck with lame defaults
sshbio
offby1: I tried quite many windows managers, if you did not, I would be glad to help you somehing that suit you!
optikalmouse
x200? has anyone tried a system76 linux laptop? they look reasonably priced
Sketch
python476: mine has an IPS panel ;)
python476
optikalmouse: nope, neither s76, nor libreboot
Sketch
i think
or maybe it's just LED
python476
Sketch: enjoy !
Sketch
i froget
i had to replace it after i stupidly dropped something heavy on my screen :(
         

benaiah
offby1: ah, nice. I'm running debian on an x201 these days
python476
IPS means 179 deg viewing angle
I think LED don't have such reach
sshbio
gopar: It should be on the list that appear while clicking here: http://www.nextstep4it.com/how-to-install-the-gnome-classic-desktop-in-ubuntu-15-04/
rudybot
http://teensy.info/i38LA13S4N
Sketch
cost like $300 for a replacement screen
python476
but a LED is already mighty
JordiGH
paluche: My thinkpad's battery lasts like 8 or 9 hours.
On Debian.
Maybe more, actually. I've never tried to run it all the way.
paluche
JordiGH: model?
Sketch
my battery lasted almost an hour longer on linux than it did with the preinstalled windows on my laptop
JordiGH
paluche: I don't know, how do I find out?
Sketch
(7)
gopar
sshbio, hmmm. let me try again
thanks for the help
sshbio
gopar: Welcome! You may only need to switch session.
paluche
JordiGH: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/find-product-name
I guess I meant "product name"
sshbio
JordiGH: I have an old HP whose battery lasted 1:50 on lubuntu, with another window manager (and no desktop environment), I'm now at 3:50 :)
Sketch
dmidecode -s system-product-name
offby1
sshbio: the most important quality for a window manager: not stealing my keystrokes.
deepdeep
how can I prevent python-mode from re-arranging my buffers
JordiGH
paluche: x250
Sketch
JordiGH: that's new.
         

paluche
JordiGH: thanks.
JordiGH
Debian stable runs beautifully on it.
Are any of you in Toronto? Could I crash on your couch on the weekend of December 19?
(Action) is an upstanding member of society.
C-Keen
every upstanding member needs a couch once in a while
optikalmouse
man you picked the wrong month, I *just* finished moving out of my apartment ;/
JordiGH
Comrade C-Keen speaks the truth.
sshbio
offby1: luckily, nearly all can do that with configuration! But some have less bindings by default.
offby1
JordiGH: e1f is a Toronton
JordiGH
I don't think e1f and I like each other very much.
offby1
sshbio: I have never found a single window manager that could do that with a reasonable amount of configuration. Either you and I live on different planets, or we have very different criteria
deepdeep
python-mode C-c C-! Symbol's function definition is void: indent-rigidly--pop-undo
the new python-mode plus python3 are driving me a bit batty
JordiGH
Although if e1f has no quarrel with me and can offer me quarters, I'll gladly accept.
bremner
arr, no quarter given
sshbio
offby1: Do you like tiling or "conventionnal" window managers?
Digit
or window managers with a third paradigm, like clfswm?
Sketch
offby1: I'm not sure I'd want to lodge with a Toronton. I hear they smell even worse on the inside.
offby1
sshbio: all else equal, I'd probably prefer conventional, but I'd probably be pathetically grateful for even a tiling one, if it didn't f*** me over
sachac
JordiGH: I could ask my husband if he's cool with it. I should warn you that we have three cats, though, so the couch is not likely to be very restful.
offby1
"Thick skin needed"
Ideally, "thick skin whose texture resembles rope or carpet"
Sketch
or chain mail
aidalgol
Has JordiGH become a drifter?
offby1
naw cats don't like to sharpen their claws on chain mail
paluche
BSPWM <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U17CLayt_a
Sketch
oh, i thought the idea was to avoid the claws
benaiah
offby1: have you tried i3? I've never had a keyshadowing problem with i3 that I didn't manually introduce
gopar
sshbio, got it working thanks \o/
JordiGH
sachac: I like cats and cats like me.
sshbio
gopar: Glad to know it :)
benaiah
it is a tiling wm, though
sshbio
offby1 sure! Openbox can do sort-of tiling (put a window to fill left/right half of the screen), but is a conventional window manager that can unbind /everything/ by providing a blank config file.
JordiGH
aidalgol: I'm not a drifter, just cheap. I have already spent my allowance this month on hotels in Toronto. Also, I thought it would be fun to try to meet someone from #emacs.
aidalgol
JordiGH: I'm just teasin'. :)
offby1
God bless jwz:
forcer: Is there a long German word for: "You Google a problem, and the only results are you asking about it the last time you ran into it"?
nzst
erdos was a drifter
paluche
:-)
offby1
benaiah: never even heard of i3
forcer
offby1: I don't understand that, could you rephrase?
Oh, now I did
python476
dwm / wmii / i3
~similar
josteink
forcer: the void function is still void :)
Digit
i3 is many people's first tiling wm these days, because it's very unintimidating n quite intuitive (compared to some of the competition). it doesnt quite seem to have the long staying power something like xmonad has though
josteink
forcer: so yes, I call that a crashing bug
python476
I use it because suckless dwm loses his mind sometimes
boycottg00gle
which desktop environment let's you choose the windoe manager these days?
offby1
Digit
i dont consider i3 n dwm much similar at all.
sshbio
offby1: An alternative is using a window manager that only use Super key in its default keybindings, that is never bound by default by anything. Do you mind having to learn how it works and its keybindings or do you prefer things to always be instinctive?
forcer
offby1: I guess you could make something like "Problemgooglenselbstfindung". I doubt that's easily understandable without context, though.
benaiah
forcer: do germans use "google" as a verb too?
offby1
forcer: jwz probably has plenty of German-speaking readers; I stuck your name there mostly out of reflex
forcer
benaiah: Yes
aidalgol
"What's German for toilet." *receives answer* *Beavis & Butthead laughter*
sshbio
offby1: Some window manager avoid the problem by using a prefix key (C-t) and let all other to apps. Like M-x term that only bind C-c and still can do C-c by pressing it twice. (Or like tmux or screen)
offby1
aidalgol: c'mon now, don't be shy
aidalgol
I went looking for an Android SSH client, and the top five or so all had in-app micropayments. :|
wasamasa
aidalgol
e.g. cough up dough to forward ports
forcer
German for "toilet" is an acronym pretty much no German actually knows what it is an acronym for. <.<
wasamasa
how silly is this one?
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