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e1f
why not a separate file? because it looks like "garbage" at the end of the file when it's a multi-person project and everyone doesn't use emacs
perhaps there could be an option
ngirard
Baughn: yeah, exactly
Baughn
scott__: I'm also pondering writing some sort of memory debugger for haskell just so I get to call it "valcurry".
ngirard
e1f: In a nutshell, I want to store LaTeX configuration stuff within LaTeX documents
Baughn
ngirard: I'd be happier if you stored them as latex comments
Or, in general.. it should be possible for the writer to look at the comment style for the current mode
konr
test
ngirard
Baughn: yes in my mind they would be stored as latex comments
e1f
ngirard: but what you suggest could apply to all types of files. i am only thinging of text files, which don't have a comment style
so it would make sense to store the properties outdoors
ngirard
e1f, sure ; i'm especially interested in editing latex and org-mode files
I wish my config + the text it applies to, to be self contained
err, to be stored in a sole file
         

e1f
what i'm suggesting is that the user have an option to store it internally or externally
ngirard
why would it appeal more to you that the conf data was stored externally, e1f ?
e1f
so if they're writing a text file, their properties get stored externally
i am looking at predictable consistency across all possible file types
by text file, i mean .txt
or perhaps rtf mode will suffice in tat case
ngirard
well, what i have in mind would be specific to authoring documents, using a workflow that involves LaTeX. It's the only stuff i'm interested in
vinjacob
god speed then.
dto
there seems to be a function to hide all #begin_src blocks in org, is there a function to show them all or show Everything?
bpalmer
let's substitute ourselves with match-string 1
thunk
,yow
fsbot
I wonder if there's anything GOOD on tonight?
sword
rudybot: suck
rudybot
sword: i don't like the syntax of any language particularly much, they all suck in one way or another. in lisp however, the syntax at least makes sense.
dto
hi.
ok, i am working on actual elisp code again, and officially Getting Back Into Emacs.
i've just been using emacs the last 2 years without really doing anything special in elisp
bpalmer
let's do a very special episode.
dto
http://dto.github.com/notebook/litprog.html
hi bpalmer
here's my thoughts, i'm going to try making this "hypermedia programming" thing work
sword
Is that like Hypercard?
dto
nope.
it's more like cannibalizing some of my old hyper linking code and hooking it up to this org-babel thing.
they have already done the work, i just need some frills and extras.
sword
*whoosh*
thunk
rudybot: We're on the Information Superhighway!
rudybot
thunk: don't seem to have that on my info system; but I think I know the online version; it is a good introductory resource
sword
These bots are getting into the uncanny jordanbvalley
         

e1f
transcript of an interview with stephen fry http://dotsub.com/view/7f7af95f-88fe-4b64-aefb-812011c2af00/viewTranscript/eng
quotemstr
Awesome /topic.
rudybot: What do you think of the Space Needle?
rudybot
quotemstr: actually I think I just found a chapter in the site's manual about recursion, the answer will definitely be there
quotemstr
rudybot: rudybot
rudybot
quotemstr: Perhaps rudybot could have some sort of strict rate-limiting feature, to reduce its noise in the channel? (Sarahbot had #schemerepl, at least, for encouraging folks to do their public evaluation away from #scheme.)
damd
damn it feels good to be a gangsta
legumbre
wot
quotemstr
"Good morning," he lied.
^^^ --- marketing majors.
damd
,..
fsbot
[Too many DB matches] [google] http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/
http://www.emacswiki.org/GPL
damd
,...
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
rudybot
Woof.
rolando
...
I tought it would activate without the comma
damd
you sir are a vimfag
rolando
quite indeed good sir
damd
leave
leave before the admins ban you
rolando
(Action) wonders why ERC doesn't have a /version command
damd
did you try /ctcp nick version?
rolando
the idea was to show the version of ERC
(Action) 's brains are entering in the 2AM mode
DraX
M-x erc-version
damd
rolando: /sv
rolando
...well now I feel dump
DraX
I'm using ERC Version 5.3 with GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0, GTK+ Version 2.18.7, multi-tty) of 2010-04-12.
damd
you sir must learn to C-h f
DraX
wow, that's awful
rolando
I'm using ERC Version 5.3 with GNU Emacs 23.1.93.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.14.4, multi-tty) of 2010-03-04.
damd
is 23.1.1 > 23.1.93.1?
rolando
damd: I didn't knew there was already a command for that
DraX
i think 23.1.93.1 is the pre-release version
damd
rolando: how does vim treat you?
rolando
good, good
can't complain
when I ssh to the college shell it's what I use
damd
real men use C-x C-f ssh-blah
rolando
damd: I tried that, but the server has a weird configuration
damd
tramp does have that flaw; it doesn't work
rolando
and I couldn't work with the redirection system of tramp
(Action) notices that flyspell isn't spellchecking English
quotemstr
I may begin using ERC at work.
rolando
oh dear
quotemstr
Windows IRC clients aren't as nice as Colloquy.
The best is probably mIRC, and that's a goddamn nightmare.
damd
mirc is fu*king horrible
rolando
I've never used mirc
on Windows I used HydraIRC
damd
i used mirc for six years and even mastered the full "mirc scripting "API"" but fu*k that was a sh*tty client
rolando
it was good enough
damd
no, way more than six years, probably like 10 years
i'm drunk, i have no sense of time
rolando
(Action) only got the internet in, like, 2006
thunk
,yow
fsbot
Yow! Is this sexual intercourse yet?? Is it, huh, is it??
sepult
,yoda
fsbot
That is why you fail.
sepult
lol
thunk
rudybot: You're made of code!
rudybot
thunk: what do you mean by "be made working in emacs"?
sword
(Action) twitches
Why do lusers not read documentation? Is there some kind of disconnect between eyes and brain?
jordanb
they're busy?
sword
Pfft
tcr
If you just yanked something, I think someone told me a nifty command to make the just yanked text the current region. Both my head and muscle memory fail me at the moment, though.
offby1
sword: speaking as a luser: because I'm lazy
sword
tcr: Isn't that the case normally?
Or do you mean "active region"
tcr
Yeah the latter
For example I want to comment out what I just pasted
so C-y <foo> M-;
offby1
tcr: with transient-mark-mode on (which is the default these days) you'll need to do C-y C-x C-x M-;
,dk C-x C-x
fsbot
exchange-point-and-mark is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
`simple.el'.
It is bound to C-x C-x.
(exchange-point-and-mark &optional ARG)
Put the mark where point is now, and point where the mark is now.
This command works even when the mark is not active,
and it reactivates the mark. ..[Type ,more]
offby1
,moar
fsbot
If Transient Mark mode is on, a prefix ARG deactivates the mark
if it is active, and otherwise avoids reactivating it. If
Transient Mark mode is off, a prefix ARG enables Transient Mark
mode temporarily.
sword
Oh yeah I've got the alternate setup
tcr
offby1: Right that was it, thank you
offby1
(Action) nods
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I love it how arc does rendering in table-based html.
offby1
(Action) renders horse's hooves into glue
rudybot: wend
rudybot
*offby1: eh? Try "rudybot: help".
offby1
rudybot: wim wenders
rudybot
*offby1: eh? Try "rudybot: help".
sword
rudybot: offby1
rudybot
sword: I have a CVS repo that I can't convert to git...
offby1
(Action) nods gravely
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
LETS SEED AN UBUNTU BITTORRENT USING MY DSL LINE!!!!
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's swap without a temporary.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's start wearing diapers so that we can IRC for longer periods of time.
jordanb
:<
I went to TBP to download the next doctor who
and then I realized there isn't one!
(Action) cries
zc00gii
soliek, I'm using erc, and if I make a small erc buffer, the line gets all fu*ked up, also, I don't really like the fact that it only takes up half the buffer(split vertically) when fullscreen. I assume if I solve the latter, the former will get fixed
jordanb: lol
offby1
(Action) stares blankly
dto
hi.
offby1
(Action) glances around nervously.
jordanb
nervous nelly
ok I gave up on bing.com/news
the obnoxiosu thing is they don't print the whole headline
you can't even hover to see it
thunk
You gave it a first chance?
God, man, it's a matter of PRINCIPLE!
,bing
fsbot
I think bing is [0] a person who dislikes the unnecessary use of his name in irc conversations
[1] a person who reads documentation
offby1
,frink
fsbot
frink -- Professor John Frink, discoverer of the "Third Dimension" and such geometric figures as the hypersquare or frinkehedron, also known to laypeople as the "cube".
ivan-kanis
how do I get the current font information?
sepult
M-o d ?
default face info that is
oww
couldn't find it
,font
fsbot
hmm, font is [0] see http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SetFonts
[1] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rf10/pstex/latexcommands.htm,
[2] http://ctan.org/tex-archive/info/Free_Math_Font_Survey/survey.html
sepult
,current font
fsbot
ivan-kanis
sepult: (insert (pp (frame-parameters))) did the trick
isn't elisp documentation bundled with 23.2? I can't find it...
vinjacob
,aum
fsbot
I think aum is P
vinjacob
there used to a be a time when unicode could mess up your client.
unifont?
fsbot
From memory, unifont is X11 dual-width GNU unicode font .. + other entries
vinjacob
,,unifont
fsbot
vinjacob, From memory, unifont is [0] X11 dual-width GNU unicode font
[1] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gnu-unifont/
vinjacob
yahoo groups? that's the best we have on unifont?
thunk
You could try ... oh, what was it called ... googol?
vinjacob
so yahoo & google, no kitchensink?
thunk
There should be a kitchen rfid tagging and grocery list construction app called kitchensync.
vinjacob
kde had something with the 'K', dunno what it does.
Saizan
in grep mode, RET over a grep hit makes the location appear in the other buffer, is there a command to open it in place of the *grep* one?
holycow
bah, emacs cheezburger mode doesn't work in terminal mode
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