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JordiGH
jordanb: That's basically more or less what happened.
I just phoned CorpA. Apparently they're about to launch their lawyers at CorpB for breach of contract.
Also, CorpA isn't paying CorpB. But for some reason, they can't give me the money instead or something.
Meh.
jordanb
Ok, they paying you though right?
Yeah that's unacceptable.
JordiGH
(Action) has to talk to his lawyer.
jordanb
"they can't give me the money or something" is bullsh*t, make him explain exactly why, and write down what he says, and date it. Let him know you're writing it down "I want you to explain why you can't pay me."
If you were talking on the phone with them, call them back now and ask that.
You probably blew it by accepting that explanation to begin with.
JordiGH
I haven't accepted anything.
I talked to his secretary anyways, not him.
jordanb
call back and demand to talk to him then
JordiGH
Hm, my lawyer is out of town, comes back on Monday.
jordanb
fu*k man, don't be a pu**y, call him and demand your money
JordiGH
YO BITCH WHERE'S MY MONEY
DINERO MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU HAVE IT
         

xristos
i want my money
jordanb
Most computer nerds should not be in buisness for themselves, buinsess involves confrontation and most nerds avoid it.
I'm saying, he owes you money, call him up, talk to *him* and make it very well understood that he owes you and he needs to pay you now.
JordiGH
Dude, I'm quite confrontational.
Tell me Debian sucks, for example.
jlf
debian sucks
jordanb
You let his secretary turn you away?
JordiGH
jlf: Your mom sucks.
jordanb
Whatever man, it's your life.
JordiGH
jordanb: He's on his lunch break, I believe him. I do remember he would come back late from the lunch break.
jordanb
It's 4PM
JordiGH
It's Mexico.
jlf
,flame JordiGH
fsbot
(Action) gives a cookie to JordiGH
xristos
jordanb would be talking with his enforcers about now
JordiGH
jlf: Lame.
jlf
worst flame ever
xristos
if he was in your position that is
jordanb
All I'm saying is that I've never been not paid by a client, but I've had to get very firm in the past. You connect to the person who owes you the money, and make it very clear that it's his responsibility to pay you.
xristos
do you break his legs if he doesn't
or make him get that impression
jordanb
No. No threats. I've gotten firm with clients with whom I still do buisness. It's not about threats or anything, it's about responsibility and both sides living up to their agreement.
The thing is that most computer people are *such* pussies that they are terrified of having a frank discussion, and buisness people who *know* computer people are pussies, but who are used to having frank discussions, use it to their advantage.
JordiGH
I too am not a pu**y.
         

legumbre_
YESSSSSS
JordiGH
legumbre_: Goal?
legumbre_
we won!!!
penalty shootout
amazing game
JordiGH
Holy sh*t.
Is that semifinals already?
legumbre_
yes
JordiGH
First time ever?
anaximander
legumbre_: and now you will lose from the netherlands. :-)
legumbre_
dude
we won the worldcup two times already
anaximander
but a long time ago
JordiGH
Heh, what do I know
anaximander
are those players even still alive?
legumbre
anaximander: I was telling JordiGH :)
JordiGH
Wasn't some really wtf country the one who won the first world cup?
legumbre
yeah, us
JordiGH
That's what I thought.
jlf
http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-will-suffer-humiliation-when-the-sports-team-f,10804/
anaximander
legumbre: but the win against brazil after having been some goals against was quite good
legumbre
anaximander: such as the the .nl win today :)
dberg
legumbre: that was sad
JordiGH
I love the Onion style.
legumbre
dberg: what was sad?
dberg
losing the game to nl
legumbre
(Action) was rooting for brazil
I wanted all southamerican teams in the semifinals
JordiGH
:-(
You said you wanted a rematch with Mexico.
legumbre
JordiGH: I did
it wasn't possible though, given the teams that made it to the quarterfinals.
JordiGH
Oh.
Man, if that ref hadn't made that bad call... maybe morale wouldn't have dropped.... and maybe, maybe...
:-(
anaximander
JordiGH: which call?
legumbre
argentina's first goal
anaximander
do remember that both in '94 and in '98 nl was denied a penalty
ah that one
JordiGH
anaximander: A goal by offside which wasn't clear until some FIFA cameraman who's probably hanging from his balls right now put a replay on.
anaximander
yeah, really, don't believe it. But then i'm dutch
JordiGH
Man, I can't clean the grime off my laptop's screen.
I can only rearrange it.
CEO of CorpA has emailed me.
He says I will get paid.
jordanb
Awesome! Good job!
jlf
demand interest
bremner
I'm interested
jlf
and a sabbatical to recover emotionally
JordiGH
He said he'd phone me soon to talk about it.
I just entertained a 4-year-old with compiz.
I made him move the cube.
Kid was enthralled.
ggole
JordiGH: the jiggly cube?
JordiGH
ggole: The spinning cube.
ggole
My knowledge of compiz is limited to a hazy memory of something jiggling.
Windows, maybe.
nodie
every time I use replace-regex I became mad
ggole
nodie: then don't use replace-regexp
nodie
I want to match strings like " | "
regex-builder match with \s+|\s+
why it doesn't works with replace-regex?
ggole
Interactively or programmatically?
nodie
interactively
ggole
re-builder uses a few different syntaxes. Make sure you have it on the one you want.
nodie
ggole, what should I use to match separators then?
ggole
I don't follow. As far as I can see, the problem is that re-builder uses string syntax and so \s is becoming something it will not using interactive regexp-replace.
,"\s"
fsbot
[google] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WanderLust
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XEmacsExtents
ggole
Hmph
Basically, type [ \t] instead of \s
nodie
ok
jlf
or [ SPC C-q TAB ] to avoid the how many backslashes do i need game
ggole
jlf: interactively, it's just \t
But yeah, that does get a bit old. It'd be nice if emacs had raw strings.
nodie
so
[ \t]+|[ \t]+ will match " | "
ggole
nodie: if you aren't sure whether it will match what you want, use ,df query-regexp-replace
Sigh
,df query-regexp-replace
fsbot
oops, Symbol's function definition is void: query-regexp-replace
ggole
Bloody hell.
,dk C-M-%
fsbot
query-replace-regexp is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
`replace.el'.
It is bound to C-M-%, <menu-bar> <edit> <replace>
<query-replace-regexp>.
(query-replace-regexp REGEXP TO-STRING &optional DELIMITED START END)
Replace some things after point matching REGEXP with TO-STRING. ..[Type ,more]
ggole
Use that. If you have a lot to replace, do a few manually until you are confident that things are working, and then ! to do the rest.
JordiGH
"while open source focuses on the perceived strengths of its peer-to-peer development model."
Peer to peer?
Do I need to torrent my source code?
nodie
omg! query-replace-regex make my day xD
thanks ggole jlf!
ggole
Another emacs victim.
(Action) blows away the smoke that gently swirls out of the barrel of his gnu
thunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmEEnWEaeRk
Sketch
who is Garry and why is his name spelled wrong?
jlf
JordiGH: maybe it means p2p in the sense that nobody is forced to work on some crap feature from on high, but individual devs have autonomy to direct their own efforts
JordiGH
jlf: I know what they mean, but I don't think they mean what they said.
Can you embed a jpeg in an email address?
ggole
In a comment, maybe
(Action) wonders which idiot thought that people would want to comment email addresses
Nested comments, no less.
JordiGH
I've never seen anyone use that.
jlf
jordigh+www.example.com/foo.jpg@example.com might work if / is a legal constituent character
JordiGH
Almost nothing accepts that.
jlf: No, I mean, the actual contents of the jpeg.
jlf: Without base64 encoding it.
ggole
JordiGH: you could convert it to ppm or some format like that
JordiGH
Boo, cheating.
ggole: I once had as an interview question, "how would you write a regex to validate email addresses?"
I gave them the smartass answer.
They weren't impressed. :-(
jlf
what answer was that?
ggole
Was that the "regular expressions can't match nested constructs" answer, or the "email addresses are valid if you send an email and it doesn't bounce" answer?
JordiGH
jlf: That you don't write a regex for that because the RFC is impossibly complicated and an actual email regex looks like encrypted text and it's probably gonna be wrong anyways.
sword
Isn't there one in an oriely book that's 800 chars?
ggole
That's not smartass, it's sanity
sword
Or some insane number
JordiGH
ggole: I think the regex I've actually seen for email addresses manages to hack around that requirement with lookaround expressions.
shabble
JordiGH
So it's not really a regular expression.
jlf
there's unlikely to be a good reason to implement such a regexp oneself in this day and age
shabble
although 'dear god don't do that' closely follows :)
jlf
interview questions included
JordiGH
That looks a lot larger than 800 chars.
6425 chars, according to wc.
"This regular expression will only validate addresses that have had any comments stripped and replaced with whitespace (this is done by the module). "
Hahaha...
I guess it doesn't get it all
technomancy
how many colors does the linux console support?
shabble
8/16, I'd guess
Sketch
i think that depends on how you define console
technomancy
Sketch: I mean totally outside X
I'm only getting 8, but I'm wondering if there are Tricks
Sketch
a framebuffer console can display way more colors
shabble
if you're using a framebuffer, there might be sneaky
Sketch
you should get 16 though
(well, 8 regular and 8 "bright" by ansi standards)
shabble
bright & dim versions of the normal 8
technomancy
well, Emacs only shows 8; possibly the console is capable of more.
JordiGH
technomancy: Linux ttys can do 256 colours.
hober
(xterm-register-default-colors) should do the trick then
Riviera
it would be nice if fbterm or something like that could show 256 or more colours
technomancy
JordiGH: with a framebuffer?
JordiGH
God, I remember using a SuSE tty once that had that damnable green colour as a background.
technomancy: Maybe.
jlf
silly suse, green is supposed to be the foreground color
jordanb
yeah that regex is everything that's wrong with perl
jlf
what's specific to perl, exactly?
JordiGH
Dude, Perly regexps rule.
jordanb
the worldview that would create that thing
JordiGH
\\\\this[:space:]\\\\\\is\\\\*why\\\\/\\.\\\emacs\\regexpcs\\\\suck
jordanb
JordiGH: :)
jlf
dym rfc822?
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