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ggole: it means you're absolutely right
kensanata
How do I set my GTalk/Jabber status using bitlbee?
legumbre_
kensanata: I think you can just /away busy
patrickaroo
Is the init.txt on my emacs/windows version the saem thing as the .emacs?
*same
ggole
xristos: thanks
sword
patrickaroo: I don't think so, my .emacs lives under Application Data/.emacs
patrickaroo
sword:ok
sword
Depends on what HOME is for you
kensanata
legumbre_: Yeah, that's what the user manual seems to imply. The weird thing is that I'm not really away, right?
         

legumbre_
kensanata: well, if you're /away busy, you'll show as busy
kensanata: you can also /away idle
kensanata
legumbre: Hm, I think you are right. I just reread that part of the user manual.
legumbre: Heh. This is cool. Thanks.
legumbre
kensanata: yw
(Action) is enjoying bitlbee's twitter support
kensanata
legumbre: I'm still stuck with the old bitlbee with broken MSN on this Ubuntu laptop.
legumbre
kensanata: there isn't an updated package yet?
patrickaroo
sword: you're on windows, running 23.1?
sword
patrickaroo: yeah, something like that
patrickaroo
ok... weird, just finding the init.txt file, and no .emacs
sword
patrickaroo: C-x C-f ~ to see where HOME is
kensanata
legumbre: Not that I know of. And I'm too lazy to figure out how to get the repositories set up to get it. If it ever annoys me enough I'll go and compile it myself.
patrickaroo
sword: did, emacs
sword: ok... figured it out... virus is still forcing hidden files
sword
yeah dotfiles are typically hidden
patrickaroo
sword: I'll have to find the virus, as even the eshell can't find hidden files
sword
virus?
Emacs ignores w32 visibility attributes typically
patrickaroo
sword: yeah, never had one that's serious, but I got a fun.xls... and maybe another... and it prevents one from showing hidden files, and so far AVG, Malwarebytes, and bitdefender can't find it
sword
so it's probably just not there
patrickaroo
sword: no, I totally got into it last night... even registry editing doesn't help
sword: could be my big sign to finally go linux
sword
Welp, wear a condom next time
Err, i mean...
patrickaroo
sword: you meant, a jimmy hat
sword
I meant a top hat
(Action) tips the brim.. good day sir
         

legumbre
kensanata: nod. The broken msn auth thing made me realize I don't use msn all that much anymore. I went for like two weeks without updating, and when I did update it was because I wanted to try twitter support.
pizzledizzle
how do you search for \ in emacs regex?
kensanata
(re-search-forward "\\\\")
sword
\\, or if in lisp "\\\\"
(rx "\\")
patrickaroo
how do I get dired to do a simple listing... I'm getting too much information
sword
As in, too many dotfiles or just too much crap otherwise
patrickaroo
well, it's only a problem with a split screen, i guess
sword
Think Wider (TM)
patrickaroo
all right, and I have been searching for the answer, how do you search down a tree for a file in dired?
sword
,df find-name-dired
fsbot
find-name-dired is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
`find-dired.el'.
(find-name-dired DIR PATTERN)
Search DIR recursively for files matching the globbing pattern PATTERN,
and run dired on those files.
PATTERN is a shell wildcard (not an Emacs regexp) and need not be quoted. ..[Type ,more]
xristos
whats the status on using defcustom for buffer-local variables
should i do it purely for documentation purposes so that the user knows what is there that can be customized
or not bother
patrickaroo
riiiight
so it looks like you figure out the globbing pattern, then feed that into a command...
is this why steve and bill got busy?
I mean, to simply search down a tree for a file with a certain file name, there isn't a simple command?
sword
C-s
patrickaroo
sword: that just searches a buffer, right?
sword
True
patrickaroo
sword: so, to automate the task of opening the 2,000+ directories down from where one sits in a tree, maybe... maybe a computer could do that...
sword
M-x find-name-dired (with tab completion) does that.
patrickaroo
gotcha
cool
sword
Maybe you should try it.
patrickaroo
I think I did, but probably did in wrong
sword
M-x find-name-dired RET ~ RET *.txt RET
patrickaroo
aha ok I see
it worked!
sword:thanks!
sword
yw
ngz
How can I attach a patch with an inline text/diff mime type under wanderlust ? All I get is 7bit 8bit or base64 when I try.
patrickaroo
I've marked a number of buffers I want to kill in the buffer list, what command kills them en masse?
sword
x i think
Try C-h m for help
x works in ibuffer at least
patrickaroo
it's insane... I'm in two windows most of the time... some commands output to the window your in, some to the other window... it's like whack-a-mole wondering which hole the outputs going to pop up in
sword
,dedicated
fsbot
try: dedicated-window Dedicated_Minibuffer_Frame DedicatedKeys
sword
,dedicated-window
fsbot
From memory, dedicated-window is Dedicated mode tries to prevent a window from being used; in emacs-goodies-el; see set-window-dedicated-p
patrickaroo
sword: ok i'll look at those
plus, I get the feeling everyone is using ibuffer, as you guys told me too, so I should do that
is it possible to delete an entire directory (say, in windows, 'documents and setting') from ibuffer with no confirm?
kinda paranoid
if c-m-v scrolls the other window down, what scrolls it up?
legumbre
M-- C-M-v
C-M-- C-M-v if you want a "non-breaking" chord
patrickaroo
what do the dashes imply?
M-- is what (meta is alt for me)?
Odin-LAP
Alt+hyphen :p
(hyphen-minus, to be pedantic, but&)
patrickaroo
ok cool thx
legumbre
dangerously close to kthxbye
patrickaroo
lol not at all... worked great ;)
pizzledizzle
hm, i put a defun in my .emacs and a global-set-key for it (C-c r) but when i start emacs and press those keys, it doesn't do anything. the function is loaded because i can see it in help and alt-x
what could it be
if i evaluate the function and then run it again, it works
molqr
hello all i keep getting this "Enabling Flyspell mode gave an error" ... earlier i was on ubuntu when it worked ok but now i m on archlinux and i keep getting that...
offby1
molqr: was there any other information?
Any detailed error message?
molqr
offby1, no sir... but this is what i get in the *Messages* buffer "Starting new Ispell process [default] ...Enabling Flyspell mode gave an error"
ggole
pizzledizzle: how did you describe the binding?
pizzledizzle
why cant i (search-forward "\223" nil t) but when i put \223 as C-Q 2 2 3, it works
ggole i figured out that problem, but now i have a new one :(
ggole
Works fine here.
nak
where's that guy, patrolli or something
pizzledizzle
ggole, how did you get it to work
offby1
molqr: all I can think of is that the "ispell" or "aspell" program might be missing.
ggole
pizzledizzle: M-> M-: (insert "\233") RET M-< M-: (search-forward "\233) RET
molqr
ispell is present... perhaps i am not able to explain the situation.. never mind thanks for the help offby1
ggole
With the necessary " in there
pizzledizzle
ggole, i did it your way with the insert and it worked. why doesn't it work when you insert it with C-Q 2 3 3
i got all these crazy \223 characters and i can't get rid of them cuz search-forward "\223" wont match them for some weird reason
ggole
Because C-q is in octal by default
pizzledizzle: just copy them and paste them into M-%
pizzledizzle
i need to match it in search-forward in defun
bpalmer
as is backslash, no?
offby1
pizzledizzle: try (search-forward (string #o223) nil t)
pizzledizzle
that worked thanks
offby1
or better yet -- (re-search-forward (rx (not (any ascii))))
pizzledizzle
whats this #o223 convention called? i want to read about it
ggole
offby1: clobbering nonascii is a bit aggressive
offby1
it's just the read syntax for integers in octal
ggole: pfaw!
bpalmer
it's clobberin' time!
offby1
ASCII was good enough for Jesus!
pizzledizzle: (info "(elisp) Integer Basics")
jbms
what's being clobbered?
ggole
(Action) consigns offby1 to a lifetime of EBCDIC
wgreenhouse
offby1: it was? didn't he speak Aramaic and Greek?
offby1
wgreenhouse: heresy
and hearsay
bpalmer
wgreenhouse: but the Dragon Naturally Speaking he was using to record the speeches transcribed into ascii.
let's all speak to a dragon.
rryouumaa
but, running linux, he had to turn water into wine first
nak
hi bpalmer
bpalmer
hiya nak
nak
:D
devhost_mb
hmm, while running make install (under nextstep) I recieve an error :
url/url-dav.el:36:1:Error: Cannot open doc string file "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/DOC-24.0.50.1"
Suggestions?
nak
;x
offby1
use a real operating system?
(Action) ducks
xxtjaxx
offby1: who is not using the emacs os here?
nak
what is emacs os?
xxtjaxx
nak: emacs Linux is our devicedriver :)
nak
http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html
devhost_mb
offby1: Not very helpful. Ive compiled emacs many times on Win7, 2 Linux distros, and OS X.
I have never seen this error before.
offby1
I know it wasn't helpful, it's just my snarky way of saying "I'm sorry, I have no idea, and don't know anything about nextstep"
seriously, though, I fear emacs-on-Mac is sort of unloved
jlf`
rudybot: are you a mac or a pc?
rudybot
jlf`: at the ipad demo, everyone wears black with the exception of a lumberjack and a couple of pc users http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/PxwjWaWD8zE/
jlf`
rudybot: got any other lumberjack stories?
rudybot
jlf`: Maybe if I was a lumberjack or smelter by day, I would need the extra feedback of a buckled spring to get past the callouses and arthritis
offby1
(Action) nods gravely
ReinH
Hmm, anyone know why I would get an error running make on org mode's source? error: http://gist.github.com/445429
offby1
ReinH: my hunch is that the complex s-expression in the command is broken.
rryouumaa
,vi
fsbot
I heard vi is [0] a visual editor (see ,viper ,vim ,nvi)
[1] "visual" meaning not a line editor like ed
jlf`
ReinH: you're inadvertently closing your opening double quote in the expand-file-name form
try escaping the eval argument with a single quote
marioxcc
hola a todos
jlf`
howdy marioxcc
marioxcc
:)
jlf`: what font are you using?
nevermind
legumbre
Do not ask for whom the vuvuzela buzzes&
jlf`
how long is this world cup thing going on?
legumbre
typically, a month
jlf`
let's patch fsbot to sound a vuvuzela periodically while the world cup is in progress
legumbre
that'd be awesome
ReinH
jlf`: erm, I'm not actually doing anything, I'm just trying to run make on this project
legumbre
or he could poll twitter for goals
jlf`
rudybot: have you a vuvuzela?
rudybot
jlf`: Do not ask for whom the vuvuzela buzzes&
ReinH
I haven't edited the files at all
offby1
that bot gets all the best lines.
ReinH: I'd poke around in the revision-control history; perhaps a recent checkin broke it
rudybot: is it true that Starbucks now offers free vuvuzelas in its stores?
rudybot
offby1: apple stores, easy targets of mockery may they be, are at least often in pretty nice locations
offby1
what, "store" is a more interesting word than "vuvuzelas"?
(Action) tinkers with the machinery
jlf`
ReinH: oops, your escaping is fine. the end of file during parsing error suggests an unmatched open paren or quotation
offby1
actually, his escaping _isn't_ fine; now I have to pay a skip tracer to track him down.
jlf`
in org.el i guess
skip tracer? i think i went to high school with him.
offby1
you mean Tracy Skipman. She was one of the "soshes".
rryouumaa
,t8 es en vuvuzelas
fsbot
vuvuzela
rryouumaa
,t8 pl en vuvuzelas
fsbot
vuvuzelas
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