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parolang
Has anyone made crossword.el?
,g emacs crossword
fsbot
[google] http://www.peterbe.com/plog/emacs-on-palm
http://www.ronazajac.com/Putz/
e1f
only page 3 of the sun is nsfw
aartist_
,ipod
Sketch
Ex-engineer Jack said: "I was shaken. The images were horrendous. I didn't know this sort of stuff existed."
fsbot
I think ipod is like twb's verbal abuse
aartist_
, ipod
fsbot
From memory, ipod is like twb's verbal abuse
e1f
speaking of which, where is twb
         

JordiGH
e1f: What if you work as a sculptor?
turbofail
or if you're working for a censorship bureau
then you HAVE to find the pr0n
JordiGH
I actually have had a job where looking at porn was part of the job, on occasion.
turbofail
hm
want this job
JordiGH
It sucked. It was a think-of-the-children job.
turbofail
oh
was it something along the lines of what i suggested?
shabble
I've seen job ads for various porn and streaming video sites
but they're mostly php :(
turbofail
makes sense... porn hypertext processing
e1f
but you have to test your php code
you have the opportunity for extensive testing
shabble
I daresay you'd get bored/desensitised after a while
e1f
or you'll get rsi
JordiGH
Like rms.
You'll be more rms-like.
Rmsliness is next to cleanliness.
parolang
There needs to be a regexp for images.
turbofail
i've always wanted to be closer to the square root of my variance
parolang
So you can search for what's in the image.
shabble
I believe there are some things along those lines
damd
god i hate bzr
i hate it SO MUCH
turbofail
i've never used it and i already hate it
but in all seriousness, i've heard nothing but bad things about it
what in particular do you hate?
cvandusen
It even slows Emacs down when opening a file that's in bzr.
shabble
I think I installed it just to get a copy of emacs source
         

damd
turbofail: the extreme slowness, if that's a word
"bzr up" downloads 9 MB, i mean wtf
what could possibly even go on during those 9 MB
turbofail
heh
that's why i usually use the git mirror at repo.or.cz
for emacs source
cvandusen
Just to verify, I opened the README for Emacs. It took at least 3 secs while "Loading vc-bzr...done" was in the minibuffer.
ieure
tromey, Im having an issue installing clojure related stuff with ELPA, can you help me debug it?
turbofail
yeah... vc-mode might have to be made asynchronous just to deal with bzr
tromey
ieure: actually technomancy might be better for that
ieure
technomancy, Are you around?
technomancy
ieure: on the phone right now
maybe a bug report to the swank-clojure mailing list?
damd
is there any command which moves to the *last* non-whitespace on the current line?
kind of like M-m but reversed
ieure
technomancy, Bleh, Im not on it. And Im not sure what is actually buggy, since installing stuff fails with a message about clojure-mode.
technomancy
ieure: you actually only need clojure-mode and slime-repl, if the other one is giving you trouble then skip it. some bugs are worked around most easily by rm -rf'ing the package from ~/.emacs.d/elpa and trying again, at least until my patches to package.el get applied. =(
ieure
technomancy, I can install clojure-mode and the slime stuff, but installing clojure-test-mode dies with "let: File exists: /Users/ieure/.emacs.d/elpa/clojure-mode-1.7.1/clojure-mode.el"
Similarly, installing swank-clojure dies with "let: File exists: /Users/ieure/.emacs.d/elpa/slime-repl-20100404/slime-repl.el"
technomancy
ieure: yeah, that's a package.el bug I fixed
ieure: grab my fork or wait for tromey to apply my patch
another workaround: rm -rf all affected packages and just install clojure-test-mode and slime-repl; those will pull in the others as dependencies and not get bit by the bug.
I know it sucks... the bug is fixed though
ieure
It doesnt seem to realize that I nuke stuff unless I restart Emacs. :(
damd
i can't find the info node on regexp "character classes"
is \\S- any character which is not whitespace?
shabble
(elisp)Char Classes
damd
thank you
shabble
you probably want "(elisp)Regexp Backslash" though, for \s and the like
ieure
technomancy, Alright, after nuking everything in elpa, updating to your package.el fork and restarting, I can install stuff.
technomancy
sweet. sorry for the hassle.
I need to start publicizing my fork better.
JordiGH
technomancy: Github, bitbucket, launchpad...
What does bzr use? Launchpad, right?
technomancy
yes
marioxcc
hi all
yesterday I stupidly deleted some changes in a file
then i tried to recover them but i found no backup file
aren't backup files enabled by default?
ts33kr
They got cleaned up when you exit emacs.
marioxcc
oh :S
ts33kr
Exit normally, I mean.
marioxcc
ok
well
i mean those with *~
not #*#
are *~ also deleted?
oh
i just fould the reason
vc-make-backup-files is nil on my system
i'm going to set it
ts33kr
marioxcc, I suggest you to use a VCS.
marioxcc
thanks for your time
ts33kr: I'm using GIT, but what i did lost were uncommited (but saved) changes
then i made vc-revert...
ts33kr
Well, sh*t happens.
marioxcc
:(
yeah, it's a pity but well
thanks :)
rryouumaa
marioxcc: it is an extremely stupid default
magit is good
turbofail
ha, xedit
marioxcc
rryouumaa: yeah, a bogus default
i don't know of magit
what it is
rryouumaa
,magit
fsbot
I heard magit is [0] http://zagadka.vm.bytemark.co.uk/magit/
[1] a relatively full-featured Emacs interface to git,
[2] see screencast at http://vimeo.com/2871241
marioxcc
,magit
fsbot
magit -- [0] http://zagadka.vm.bytemark.co.uk/magit/
[1] a relatively full-featured Emacs interface to git,
[2] see screencast at http://vimeo.com/2871241
marioxcc
LOL
turbofail
also a version control that eventually sprouts into a fly
rryouumaa
the only change i would make to magit's existing feature set is inline history
a la egg
damd
how do i use re-search-forward and match-* to get the buffer position of the LAST non-whitespace character on the current line?
marioxcc
rryouumaa: :)
damd
or maybe there's some much easier way?
shabble
damd: http://pastie.org/998531 might work?
damd
shabble: yeah, but that's pretty naive
shabble
it's easier :)
damd
not that it normally matters at all, but...
petafile
Is there a way to run several commands (specifically a few from my .emacs file) when I open a new frame? Thins like setting default font, etc
damd
there should be a "new frame hook" shouldn't it?
turbofail
there's before-make-frame-hook and after-make-frame-functions
mxey
For setting the font, you should use default-frame-alist
JordiGH
<KaffeeJunky123> why does emacs not use ctrl+s to save and ctrl+c to copy etc?
damd
well, why doesn't it?
benny
<madeUPperson> why does JordiGH ask such questions via proxy?
because it's older than ctrl+s
damd
emacs is a mish-mash of old unix conventions and rms preferences
JordiGH
<KaffeeJunky123> Actually I'm a 12 years old girl :3
shabble
damd: hit that link again for another version
(Action) is pretty bored
JordiGH
(Action) read "pos" as "piece of sh*t".
damd
shabble: oh, i got the char classes mixed up... argghh
i did \\s-\\S-*$
shabble
doh
damd
i should probably just start looking into that fu*king rx stuff
shabble
that's the sexp based regex thing?
benny
yes
shabble
I just piss about with re-builder+
but I miss my perl regex :(
benny
I don't miss them, but then again I don't do the same tasks with pcre as I do with emacs
JordiGH
Who doesn't?
Okay, benny doesn't.
benny
<KaffeeJunkey123> I hate pcre
damd
lol benny
JordiGH
lol
damd
seriously though, ffs, pcre already...!
petafile
mxey: would the frame-inherited-parameters variable work for what I want?
fledermaus
(Action) sleeps
later
mxey
petafile: I don't know that variable.
petafile: But the description sounds good.
petafile
This variable specifies the list of frame parameters that a newly created frame inherits from the currently selected frame. For each parameter (a symbol) that is an element in the list and is not present in the argument to make-frame, the function sets the value of that parameter in the created frame to its value in the selected frame.
sounds like what I want :)
marioxcc
hi
please, someone can explainme what C-u C-x C-s does?
I'm unable to understand the manual wording, it's a bit confussing
JordiGH
ONE WAY TO FIND OUT
marioxcc
,backup
fsbot
backup -- [0] (setq backup-directory-alist '(("." . ".~"))) to keep backups out of the way in a .~/ directory
[1] (setq backup-directory-alist (list (cons ".*" (expand-file-name "~/.emacsbackup/")))) for a more elaborate setup., ..[Type ,more]
JordiGH
What's the default nice priority?
If I just reniced to -20, I didn't hog all the CPU to myself, did I?
(CPU is mine mine mine you can't have any)
legumbre
hogging!
madsy
JordiGH the hedgehog
JordiGH
I hope that make -j2 reniced to -20 is fast enough as Sonic.
legumbre
(Action) prefixes ionice -c 1 to JordiGH 's make
muahaha
anyway, coffee!
petafile
So, I'm not understanding this whole elisp business. I want to add the alpha option to the frame-inherited-parameters list, and I can't figure it out. My expression is (setq frame-inherited-parameters (cons '(alpha (frame-parameter nil alpha)) frame-inherited-parameters)). When i run it, I get an error Wrong type argument: symbolp, (alpha (frame-parameter nil alpha)
can someone explain to me why I fail at lisp?
JordiGH
Tweet your elisp errors.
technomancy
petafile: that's kind of a low-level way to do it; have you tried add-to-list?
petafile
I have not... but i will
okay, I'm still lost. (add-to-list frame-inherited-parameters 'alpha) gives me a wrong-type-argument symbolp error
technomancy
petafile: put a single-quote before frame-inherited-parameters
petafile: also: look for examples of elisp that do similar things
petafile
that's it
thanks
my lisp education at college was like 2 weeks in my prog lang class, some of the details are a bit fuzzy :)
technomancy
"There might come a day where I don't feel like a twat using an iPad in a public place, but that day isn't here yet. It's a little too ostentatious, like toting around a scepter." http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/6/9/
Sketch
"The only thing it can do that my iPhone can't is be more expensive."
heh
legumbre
you mean "hgh", amirite?
marioxcc
hi
¿why most emacs source files are above 4K lines?
¿is that larger files are more comfortable for Emacs hackers?
kodein
and yet emacs complains when I open 150M files? ;)
JordiGH
marioxcc: Probably a consequence of lisp and its penchant for very-descriptive-identifiers.
marioxcc
hehe
I think that have little to do with the long files issue but it's a funny truth anyway
JordiGH
So whaddya guys think about the second Octave logo proposal?
http://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/Abstract-logo-td2249584.html#a2249584
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