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JordiGH
Je mange des chats kazhdiy den'
isomer`
,t8 fr en quoi?
fsbot
what
JordiGH
Hahaha... That's how it came out of my head.
My brain goes into "L2 mode" but isn't particular about which L2.
,t8 ru en 064K9 45=L
fsbot
Every day
jordanb
I'm prett sure "Je mange des chats" means in french pretty much the same thing it means in english.
isomer`
,t8 fr en to parle francais comme une vache espagnole
fsbot
to speak french like a Spanish cow
isomer`
*tu
         

JordiGH
,t8 fr en C'est propre, tu parles comme un fermier.
fsbot
C is clean, you talk like a farmer.
technoma`
"How appropriate; you fight like a milkmaid."
jordanb
How do you say "carpet licker" in french?
jlf
,t8 fr en c'est terrible
fsbot
c is terrible
dim
it's terrible, actually
isomer`
lecheur de.... something. but i don't know the right expression
JordiGH
Oh, svn update is finally done.
(Action) goes back to work, ttfn.
dim
I think "carpet licker" is a phrase that would translate to "l├Ęche cul"
quotemstr
What does taxoplasmosis have to do with the French in particular?
jordanb
LIke 120% of french people have toxoplasmosis.
quotemstr
Is there an inexpensive way to test myself?
I want to know whether my behavior is being subtly manipulated by microbes.
dim
you have a cat? you like raw vegetables?
jlf
check your passport?
jordanb
jlf: :)
quotemstr
dim: I've lived with cats and I've eaten plenty of raw vegetables...
isomer`
dim: that'd be the posterior, not the anterior
quotemstr
Oh, fun.
dim
so good chances are that you already have/had it
         

quotemstr
It's treatable with antimalarial medication.
jordanb
It is estimated that between 30% and 65% of all people worldwide are infected with toxoplasmosis.[46] However, there is large variation between countries: in France, for example, around 88% of the population are carriers, probably due to a high consumption of raw and lightly cooked meat.
dim
yeah and the only problem I know about it is that you don't want to catch it while pregnant
jlf
let's order pork tartare
dim
I don't feel that concerned, personnaly
jordanb
dim: Are you or are you planning on becomming pregnant?
dim
raw meat suppose beef
jordanb: no, no.
jlf
still, accidents do happen
dim
I already have 2 kids :)
quotemstr
(Action) gets to know Emacs biblically and becomes pregnant.
JordiGH
Gaaaaah I hate centralised VCSes.
Every operation on this svn tree takes like 30 seconds.
quotemstr
JordiGH: Once you go dVCS, you can never go back.
jlf
quotemstr: i guess msft will soon be indirectly supporting emacs
bpalmer
eh.
JordiGH
What's the status? 30 second wait. Hey, diff this file! 30 second wait. Hm, gotta remove those files! 30 second wait.
bpalmer
let's not use fsbot as a vehicle to flame people.
jlf
,flame bpalmer
fsbot
bpalmer: Artificial intelligence - natural stupidity. You know which you are? Thought so.
quotemstr
jlf: If I can make Emacs work better with MS stuff without violating my contract, I'll see what I can do about submitting changes.
jlf
oops
technoma`
JordiGH: tried git-svn? it eased the pain a bit when I was last stuck with it.
JordiGH
technoma`: I'll give it a try on Monday. I'm almost done with this task for now.
bpalmer
JordiGH: sounds like you're having issues separate from svn's communication. svn status should be working off of the local checkout.
JordiGH
technoma`: Also, I'm more of an hg guy, but git's fine.
quotemstr
Now, on the other hand, whether the emacs-devel crowd would accept patches that let Emacs talk to Active Directory is another story.
JordiGH
bpalmer: Maybe it's LAN latency, then.
quotemstr
Speaking of Microsoft, by the way, there's a subversion-TeamGateway bridge available.
JordiGH
quotemstr: I don't know how well Emacs can work with MSFT stuff without violating the GPL. :P
quotemstr
Which means I can use git with Microsoft code. :)
isomer`
jordanb: carried primarily by house cats. maybe they eat them in france?
dim
not that I know of
JordiGH
How can I use ediff to review an svn diff I'm about to commit?
isomer`
JordiGH: http://www.xsteve.at/prg/vc_svn/ may help
(i don't use svn though)
JordiGH
(I wish I didn't too.)
Oh, silly me, I guess I can use ediff-revision.
isomer`
maybe there is a git-svn gateway or something
JordiGH
There is. I'll look into it late.r
cvandusen
JordiGH: You can also do C-x v =
JordiGH
cvandusen: That's not ediff, is it?
cvandusen
JordiGH: Nope. vc-diff, but it'll show the diff
JordiGH
vc-diff is for chumps.
(Action) is not a chump.
leo2007
svn is for JordiGH.
JordiGH
Ouch, low blow, leo2007. Low blow.
dranreb
hi
JordiGH
,twitter
fsbot
twitter is, like, [0] http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs/twit.el
[1] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Twitter,
[2] or use a twitter plugin from http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins#AdditionalProtocols with elim http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ELIM
JordiGH
Where's the Haskell thing?
tgunr
I am trying to convert some code in Emacs list into a shell script. One thing I would like to do though, is to display the buffer and not save it, and I can't seem to find any print-buffer to stdout
fledermaus
.df princ
,df princ
fsbot
princ is a built-in function in `C source code'.
(princ OBJECT &optional PRINTCHARFUN)
Output the printed representation of OBJECT, any Lisp object.
No quoting characters are used; no delimiters are printed around
the contents of strings. ..[Type ,more]
fledermaus
,df buffer-substring-no-properties
fsbot
buffer-substring-no-properties is a built-in function in `C source
code'.
(buffer-substring-no-properties START END)
Return the characters of part of the buffer, without the text properties.
The two arguments START and END are character positions;
they can be in either order.
tgunr
cool, i looked all over the emacs doc for that
bpalmer
technically that character position bit is wrong.
guess someone should fix emacs.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'll spam you.
bpalmer
(i.e, START and END are values that point could assume; points are between characters, as witnessed by char-after and char-before )
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
We should become APL bigots.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'll callback your function.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's need 2GB of ram to run our file system.
jordanb
Let's make a data transfer system where people get implants in their brains.
And they have to fly around and then have the data downloaded from them.
That sounds like a superb way to move data around.
jlf
let's throttle rudybot
JordiGH
Rudybot: Full Throttle
jordanb
We can remove the part of Keanu Reeves's brain that stores his acting skills.
turbofail
apparently keanu reeves is canadian in some sense
jlf
take off!
turbofail
i'm not sure what the implications of this are
JordiGH
jordanb: The idea is that you use that for super-secure data, and way much more data than you can store on any artificial device.
jordanb: It kinda made more sense in writing.
jordanb: At least it's not "humans are batteries lol".
jordanb
JordiGH: That still is fu*king asnine.
Also he had like 300GB in his head. I can easily put 300GB in my pocket.
JordiGH
jordanb: It was the eighties, dude.
turbofail
was it?
JordiGH
jordanb: To be fair, in writing it was about 300 megs.
turbofail: Early 90's?
turbofail
i guess that could be interpreted as the '80s
ggole
jordanb: in the original story it was a few megabytes
turbofail
in some other numeral system
jordanb
Even in the 80s, no logical way would it be 'more secure' to send someone on a friggin airplain with an implant.
JordiGH
jordanb: Eh, perhaps you want someone who will fight for the data with their lives?
jordanb: C'mon, it sorta made sense, where's your suspension of disbelief?
We'll get Molly on the silver screen one of these days, mark my words.
jordanb
Suspension of disbelief only gos so far.
JordiGH
jordanb: Neural cryptography is way stronger than any other cryptography?
How about that?
That was part of it, nobody was able to recover the data.
jordanb
Then why were they so sure that they could hack his head off and get the data out so easily?
JordiGH
That's not canon!
jordanb
And also.
fledermaus
as the actress said to the bishop
jordanb
If pharmacore didn't want there to be a cure for the disease, why'd they bring the cure all the way through clinical trials had have it all ready to go?
JordiGH
Oh, the disease is a movie thing.
The movie was kinda cool, but that whole "let's take Molly out" was dumb.
fledermaus
zzz
laynor
hi, where does gnus store its configuration? I want to revert it back to "factory defaults".
damd
laynor: M-x customize-group gnus?
click "erase customization"
laynor
it still tries to connecto to a group i subscribed
I want to erase all subscriptions
(basically because it seems I can't find an nntp server where I can connect)
Astrobe
maybe in a dotfile then?
JordiGH
Wow, usenet.
damd
usenet should come back
laynor
Astrobe: i was looking for it, but unless it's this .kkrc file I found in my home, I have no idea. Googling for emacs kkrc yelds no results either.
tgunr
In the shell script i am trying to create as the last line I have a (princ (current-buffer) but when I execute it a, all it prints is the name of the buffer. How do I get it to print the entire buffer?
JordiGH
damd: Agreed.
Mailing lists are a poor substitute.
quotemstr
gmane
damd
very poor indeed
tgunr
er, (princ (current-buffer))
laynor
oh, found out, it's not. It's kanji chache -_-'
turbofail
(princ (buffer-string))
tgunr
hmm, ok
jlf
tgunr: fledermaus already pointed out buffer-substring-no-properties earlier
tgunr
I must have missed that
damd
does anyone know what chong yidong's "first name" is?
jlf
yes
damd
cool, just checking
turbofail
let's bring back microsoft bob
quotemstr
s/bob/windows 7/
turbofail
it brought us such wonderful things as "comic sans ms," the classiest font ever devised
leo2007
how true is this!
When developing a program such as Emacs by CVS, it only takes a few bad programmers among people with write access to greatly lower the quality of the code.
JordiGH
Wait...
Is leo2007 suggesting that too many cooks spoil the broth?
IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION of esr?
tromey
emacs is a lot more anarchic than most projects
jlf
let's make an analogy about the cathedral and the bizarre
JordiGH
I've noticed that Russians in general are distrustful of free software.
I think it reminds them too much of the Soviet Union.
sohail
really
I notice the opposite
JordiGH
Maybe I'm talking to the wrong Russians, then.
sohail
or maybe I am
turbofail
i think it depends which generation of russians you're talking to
the guy who made tetris hates free software
JordiGH
Is that the one who's sent the recent waves of DMCAs?
turbofail
maybe
jlf
more likely he just hates those who've released free versions of tetris
JordiGH
Intellectual thieves.
turbofail
also, true story, one of the original authors of tetris killed himself and his family... his was attending my middle school at the time
s/his/his son/
JordiGH
turbofail: You're Russian?
turbofail
no
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