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SirNick
What's the easiest way to use ido to find files at any level below the current working directory?
yonkeltron
rudybot: seen yrk
rudybot
yonkeltron: yrk was seen joining in/on #emacs one week ago, and then yrk was seen quitting in/on pdpc/supporter/student/yrk one week ago, saying "Quit: ERC Version 5.1.2 (CVS) $Revision: 1.809 $ (IRC client for Emacs)"
yonkeltron
lovely...
OH
it's there now
FFighter
How can I find out the last lisp code emacs evaluateD?
evaluated*
There is function to see the last evaluated code, right?
bpalmer
what do you mean by "evaluated" ?
cutting to the chase: You may be thinking of repeat-complex-command.
FFighter
might be... to find out what has been called last
let me try
bpalmer
FFighter: every time you type a key, self-insert-command is evaluated.
but is that useful to you?
FFighter
yeah, thanks :)
         

ggole
,dv last-command
fsbot
The last command executed.
Normally a symbol with a function definition, but can be whatever was found
in the keymap, or whatever the variable `this-command' was set to by that
command.
The value `mode-exit' is special; it means that the previous command ..[Type ,more]
rryouumaa
(Action) thinks that upcase-word and its ilk should go backward, not forward
has anybody written a caps-lock for emacs?
pjb
rryouumaa: yes.
legumbre
,milesbader
fsbot
MilesBader is, like, at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MilesBader
rryouumaa
great! care to paste?
legumbre
rryouumaa: ^^
pjb
caps-mode: http://paste.lisp.org/+25GK
rryouumaa
legumbre: pjb: thank you!
kbs
silly question -- in interactive query-replace-regex -- is there a way to use back-references to matched patterns?
legumbre
kbs: sure, \1 etc
pizzledizzle
what does #( mean when it begins a list in elisp?
pjb
it's a special kind of string, string with attributes.
pizzledizzle
does it have a name? i keep googling for #( but not finding anything
kbs
legumbre: ah -- thanks :-)
pjb
(type-of #("abc")) --> string
Well, 'property' is the right word. A string with text properties.
sword
There is no such thing as fontifillectual property
jlf
,property
fsbot
property -- [0] That part of what you call "your own" which you don't use yourself. Ten cars, a factory, etc. (cf. http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB3.html#secb31)
[1] in Proudhon's words defined by the 'right of increase claimed by the proprietor'., ..[Type ,more]
         

jlf
,m
fsbot
[2] "Any material thing, having no particular value, that may be held by A against the cupidity of B. Whatever gratifies the passion for possession in one and disappoints it in all others. The object of man's brief rapacity and long indifference."
legumbre
pizzledizzle: (info "(elisp) Text Props and Strings")
indio
,threads
fsbot
try: DivergingThreads ThreadServer
indio
,thread
fsbot
try: CopingWithLossOfThreadLinearity CustomizeThreading DivergingThreads InterruptedThreadMode LossOfThreadLinearity multithreading NoThreading ReworkingThreadMess ScreenCaptureThreadMode slrnthreading ThreadMode ThreadServer TurnBasedThreadMode TurnBasedVsInterruptedThreadMode ..[Type ,more]
sword
Let's weave.
bpalmer
note that #("foo") is only in emacs.
I'm not sure that propertified strings have any readable syntax in xemacs, hmm.
indio
,m
fsbot
TypedThreadedDiscussion
indio
,multithreading
fsbot
[->] NoThreading is, like, [0] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NoThreading
[1] see http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl/2003-12-04,
[2] See also async-eval,
[3] See also LaterDo
jlf
bpalmer: only in emacs?
oh in distinction to xemacs, nm
pjb
Yes, in CL, #( is for vectors.
jlf
(Action) nods
pizzledizzle
thanks guys
bpalmer
let's compile to Parrot.
jlf
let's cast perls before swine
sword
The Perl of Great Price
woodworks
the girl with one pearl earring
aksionov
Happy Towel Day to everyone
fledermaus
(Action) apologises for the inconvenience
woodworks
that's alright fledermaus, nothing a new diaper and powder won't fix
fledermaus
(Action) clips woodworks round the ear
woodworks
ouch!
kelsin
NICE
fledermaus
,ping
fsbot
pong
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's vacation in Darfur.
jordanb
Let's go to the redneck riveria.
Riviera
What?
8)
Drakeson
what would make emacs say "X protocol error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) on protocol request 2" ?
(emacs -Q, that is)
yonkeltron
Drakeson: oh.
Drakeson
yonkeltron: guess I should stop keeping my machine afloat ubuntu+1
yonkeltron
Drakeson: emacs says that? you're sure it's from emacs and not a generic messagE?
Drakeson
yonkeltron: no, I am not sure. maybe someone (X) tells that to emacs when it is creating an X window.
yonkeltron
plausible
Drakeson
yonkeltron: it is most likely not emacs' fault. I am trying to find the offending library or package that causes it.
yonkeltron
Drakeson: what are your ssh settings looking like?
Drakeson: and by that i mean 'what do your ssh settings look like?'
Drakeson
let me mv my .ssh and see ...
still the same error ...
yonkeltron
oh
well
hmmm
Drakeson: hey, you get any log messages?
Drakeson: if it's not an emacs problem, you might get something in syslog
Drakeson
yonkeltron: not even "tail -f /var/log/*" helps :(
yonkeltron
oh
Drakeson
or tail -f .xsession-errors
yonkeltron
Drakeson: so maybe it is emacs then
nothing special in *Messages*
?
Drakeson
nope
yonkeltron
well then you're out of my league then
other x-forwarded apps work, right?
Drakeson
yonkeltron: thanks anyways
yes, they work
some library might have got upgraded since a few days ago
I am trying to find which one
emacs-lucid works btw. Should be gtk related
anyway, thanks. I guess I go try to look deeper ...
aartist
Is there any speedtest.net like service in emacs>
bpalmer
what would it do?
aartist
measure the internet connection speed, for example mine is 15MB/sec
jeeez
'sendmail-send-it: Sending...failed with exit value 1' <-- can someone help me with that?
offby1
not I
bpalmer
jeeez: sounds like it's a sendmail problem. Can you send email manually using /usr/bin/sendmail ?
jeeez
bpalmer: i'm just installing sendmail :|
jlf`
let's send email by telneting to port 25
technomancy
netcat!
sword
jlf`: I remember days when that was possible
jlf`
sword: it still is
sword
Err, to random servers out there, before the days of spam
jlf`
let's MAKE.MONEY.FAST!
twb
You can still talk to port 25 on any good host
It's just unlikely to *relay* your mail
jlf`
i still nc to port 25 and vrfy to guess people's email addresses once in a while
rgr
btw, whats all this "let's" carry on? Is it some sort of seed for fsbot?
jlf`
rudybot: quote
rudybot
jlf`: I'll attempt to remove your nonexistent passive grab!
herdrick
Hi. Question about ELPA: where are its docs? I read the comments at the top of package.el, and they were useful, but are there some more docs somewhere?
What I'd like to know is about upgrading packages
Is there a command to upgrade a package, if possible?
rgr
do people use elpa?
herdrick
rgr: Yes. You don't?
rgr
I tried a year or so ago and couldt make head nor tail of it. I tried to install a few packages but it seemed a little overly complicated and prone to fall over. Dunno if has changed. I tended to use auto-install packages from the emacs wiki.
technomancy
herdrick: just install the latest version of a package; that will upgrade it
just like any package manager, really
rgr: I fixed a number of bugs in it and also made it decentralized
but there's still several order of magnitudes more libraries on the wiki
rgr
will try it again - but I kept bouncing between sticking with debian packages or auto-install or elpa .... heh. choice is not so good at times ;)
herdrick
technomancy: ok, thanks. (this is in the service of installing / upgrading swank-clojure and lein btw. so thanks again!)
technomancy
herdrick: check the readme of swank-clojure; you shouldn't need to upgrade swank-clojure.el itself, just the slime packages
rgr
yegods. there is a "twilight" theme for android. gah. Who writes these things?
technomancy
rgr: elisp packages in debian are generally aaaaancient
but yeah, if you don't need the new features that might be simpler
herdrick
technomancy: thanks - i'll look at that
rgr
yeah but work. I started sticking with debian emacs 23 as I coul dnever ever get info files installed properly when I tried to build myself from source. Am mental block if you will. And problems install-info/tex in Debian.
huh, must sleep ...
jordanb
let's include qr codes on our websites.
Cause you know.
Linking is a Hard Problem.
(tm)
bpalmer
QR codes seem primarily set up for mobiles.
jordanb
There's some logic to putting a qr code on a bus station sign.
The person standing there doesn't have to type a URL.
But it doesn't at all when the URI is already in the computer.
bpalmer
people might take photographs/screenshots of the website, and the data would persist.
sort of an edge case, I suppoes.
*suppose.
jordanb
Seriously.
How about this theory:
People are wankers.
QR codes are "cool" and "hip" so hipsters stick them on their websites to show how hip they are.
technomancy
QR codes linking directly to apps are great.
you don't have to manually copy from your browser's location bar to your phone's
jordanb
Nothing says 'hip' like my "hacker glider"
Well, except my geek code block.
technomancy
Real Geeks have a glider gun emblem.
oh man... I remember geek codes.
jordanb
Yeah, they were popular until someone decided to turn them into XML and broke the internet.
Maybe now somebody will come out with a JSON version.
technomancy
...
jordanb
{"p": "++++", "c": "--"} etc.
twb
FSVO geeks = conformists
technomancy
twb: come on, a glider gun emblem gif would be hilarious
as long as it's interpreted ironically.
twb
Yeah, it can go on my "home page" next to my list of ten favourite CDs and a picture of my cat
"Oh, wait," as e1f would say, "it's not 1995 anymore"
technomancy
twb: don't forget the "best viewed with Mozilla" gif
jordanb
I believe all of those are on eric raymond's site!
Oh, and don't forget the encoding fu*kup!
bpalmer
twb: you mean your social graph?
technomancy
"created with GNU Emacs 21.2"
jordanb
Gotta have those question marks all over the place.
"Free Kevin!"
twb
Heh, remember that "best view with ANY browser" button campaign?
rbarraud
Freak Evan!
bpalmer
remember when XUL was going to be the future of webapps?
twb
bpalmer: that was last week
And microsoft had some other embrace-and-extend version of it
rbarraud
remember when we were all going to have 3 day workweeks and the biggest problem would be figuring out what to do with all the leisure time?
twb
rbarraud: I'm not French
bpalmer
twb: XAML wasn't embrace-and-extend, I don't think; just a different, similar system.
twb
bpalmer: NIH, then
offby1
Remember when movies were a nickel?
Anyone?
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