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totic_
thanks
rgr
basix: there is one
well, cedet is supposed to approach that. the only problem is that its almost impossible to use for all but the most advanced emacs users. however, things like company mode include a semantic completion backend which works.
disturb
Has anyone made an emacsen uzbl config ?
yoga
When I am in a cygwin shell in Emacs for Windows, I see the line ^[]0;~^G when ever I type in command.
Any idea?
ams
it is emacsish for 'don't use non-free operating systens'
disturb
:P
jlf
,ansi
fsbot
From memory, ANSI is [0] see ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on
[1] see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code
neuro_damage
so what's with emacs saying end of file while parsing .emacs? is that an error?
         

ams
neuro_damage: yes.
neuro_damage: you're missing a paren, quote, or some other balanced thingie
sweetandy
Why is emacs so much fun to use?
ams
cause it is free software
caoliver
sweetandy: Sarcasm tags elided?
sweetandy
No
yoga
Any idea on how to get rid of those ansi charactors ^[]0;~^G
sweetandy
</honest-question>
You know what's annoying is non-Unix line endings like ^M
stepnem
sweetandy: what ams said, and 'cause it's Lisp
ams
yoga: repeating the same question after getting an answer, however unsatisfatory, is rude
stepnem
ams: (s)he doesn't repeat the question, though
sweetandy
I only wish that gnewsense came with emacs 23
ams
23:31 <yoga> When I am in a cygwin shell in Emacs for Windows, I see the line ^[]0;~^G when ever I type in command.
seems like it.
stepnem
well, we saw that
doesn't seem like it to me
ams
did we?
i'm not sure we did..
can you show me again?
stepnem
hm? I'm not following; let's agree that we disagree on that point (i.e. the similarity of the two messages)
ams
stepnem: if the point is sharp,i'd rather not disagree... could hurt...
stepnem
ams: you don't like pain?
ams
stepnem: no
stepnem
ams: never?
yoga
ok guys/girls don't argee, I am sorry to all the troble.
argue
         

bozhidar
must stop drinking
r4yner
yoga: change your prompt
ams
stepnem: i love you.
yoga
r4yner: Thanks, that works.
stepnem
ams: hm...
r4yner
yoga: or (add-hook 'shell-mode-hook 'ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on) to your .emacs
ams
stepnem: <3
stepnem
ams: I guess that's nice; love tends to make people better
ams
stepnem: lets have sex
stepnem
ams: from that single photo I've seen, you look rather handsome, but I still prefer females; besides, we barely know each other
sachac
yoga: It looks like your console's trying to use escape sequences. Try running cygwin stuff in M-x term instead.
ams
stepnem: whatphoto?
sachac
yoga: (if you're going to have a fancy prompt. =) )
stepnem
ams: one with your flute
sachac
r4yner: Mm, that hook's a better answer. Thanks!
jlf
let's leave ams' flute out of this
ams
stepnem: and thanks... frankly, people are not keen on complimenting on guys looks.. for whatever reason
stepnem
ams: hm... dunno
r4yner
sachac: hm. thanks for your org mode tutorials
Sketch
i have noticed that in asia, guys have no problem saying other guys are handsome or whatnot
ams
stepnem: or atleat, not any people i know of.
Sketch
but in the US, if a guy says another guy is handsome, it seems he is generally assumed to be gay
ams
yeah
stepnem
haha
how sad
alex4nder
woah, what did I just talk in to.
ams
or if you have a guy compliment a guy on his choice of shirts..
automatically gay
alex4nder
er walk.. but I guess it's the same.
ams
alex4nder: are you insecure about your sexuality?
(Action) scoots over to alex4nder, and places his hand on his thigh.
alex4nder
no, I just thought I was hanging out on #emacs.
I normally go to craigslist for these discussions.
legumbre
there's gay, there's straight and there's emacs.
ams
anyway
jlf
,yow
fsbot
Now I'm telling MISS PIGGY about MONEY MARKET FUNDS!
ams
i think guys should complimentmore
i've noticed that guys who cannot compliment another guy, have a really hard time complimenting a girl for nor reason..
r4yner
ams: maybe if you really want people's approval you can compliment them all the time
ams
shug, not about approval
that isnt what a compliment is...
yoga
sachac: M-x term says Spawning child process: invalid argument
ams
i can admire things that i do not approve
jlf
ams: it turns out royal enfields aren't approved for sale in california yet because of emissions requirements :|
ams
jlf: ah shut
jlf
so i'm looking at the w650
ams
jlf: find a bsa or norton
i wanted to restore a bsa..
jlf
i want something a bit newer
ams
but just the frame plus engine all rusty cost me more than my ref :)
a triumph
jlf
you can find decent bsa's for like US$3-4k iirc
fsvo decent
ams
jlf: yeah, my ref went for 1k :)
jlf
(Action) ducks
ams
jlf: or get yer wify something fun...
jlf: my dream bike is a junak m10
sachac
r4yner: You're welcome! =)
jlf
very pretty but i want something more modern/reliable for her
sachac
yoga: Hmm, might be a Windows thing. =| Sorry!
ams
jlf: wuss :)
jlf
otherwise i have to be on-call with the pickup when she goes out riding!
yoga
sachac: that's ok, I am good.
stepnem
sachac: so we're back at ams' original response :)
my_haz
when was this the emacs icon? http://www.teuton.org/~ejm/emacsicon/index.shtml
what does i mean?
s/i/it/
ams
my_haz: what you mean i do not know
my_haz: no, that was never the emacs icon.
my_haz
ams: when was the overflowing sink the icon for gnu emacs?
ams
my_haz: never.
my_haz
it says "r the "retro" kitchen sink icon that was originally associated with GNU Emacs."
ams
my_haz: but emacs has been associated with `kitchen sinks'..
my_haz
how so?
ams
cause you kow, emacs includes everything... including a kitchen sink
my_haz
why overflowing? because of bloat?
ams
probobly..
my_haz
its kind of a funny icon
stepnem
Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping
rgr
kitchen sink? It looks more like an old style toilet cistern.
jlf
kitchen sink icon is mentioned in http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/E/EMACS.html
stepnem
rgr: indeed
Lenbok
Anyone know how to make flymake only work on buffers that are changed only by my editing (i.e. not those that are updated by auto-revert)?
(I get a flood of flymaking when I do a version control update in my project)
ams
Lenbok: you need a flysquatter
jlf
maybe maintain a do-not-flymake list where entries were added upon auto-revert and removed upon save-buffer, and use a flymake hook to abort if the current buffer is in that list
Lenbok
Maybe if there is a auto-revert hook, I can get it to set flymake-last-change-time to nil on the buffer if it exists?
jlf
if that would have the intended effect, sure
Lenbok
but there doesn't seem to be such a hook.
vinhdizzo
i want to invoke a minor mode for all buffers in .emacs. how do i do this? what hook shall i add the command to?
jlf
,dv after-revert-hook
fsbot
Normal hook for `revert-buffer' to run after reverting.
Note that the hook value that it runs is the value that was in effect
before reverting; that makes a difference if you have buffer-local
hook functions.
If `revert-buffer-function' is used to override the normal revert ..[Type ,more]
jlf
(that was to Lenbok)
vinhdizzo
used define-globalized-minor-mode
technomancy
hrm; conkeror on the latest ubuntu beta is really crashy =\
probably a xulrunner issue I guess.
legumbre
There is no road to emacs. Emacs is the road.
quotemstr
There are no operating systems; merely Emacs bootloaders.
sav
good one
legumbre
:)
quotemstr
(Action) just found a nasty lisp bug.
Err, in my Lisp, not emacs. Imagine you have a global variable 'foo' that has a cons-cell value. In C, you grab a reference to it and start working on the object described by its car.
You think, "hrm, that's okay. The reference to the cons cell will keep the object alive". Then another thread comes along and calls rplaca on that cons cell.
If that cons' car was the last reference to that object, it's deallocated and you lose, badly.
jlf
rudybot: seen dsmith
rudybot
jlf: dsmith was seen joining in/on #scheme three days ago, and then dsmith was seen quitting in/on cpe-173-88-196-177.neo.res.rr.com two days ago, saying "Quit: Leaving"
Lenbok
jlf: Thanks, I'll take a look at using that.
jlf
for those who are interested, apparently the emacs kitchen sink icon was designed by #emacs' own dsmith
quotemstr
What icon?
jlf
http://xahlee.org/emacs/i/sink.png
quotemstr
(Action) shudders.
jlf
xahist!
legumbre
classy
sav
"show me your .emacs and I'll tell you who you are"
jlf
hmm, evidently dsmith's was based on xemacs' sink.xbm from antiquity
Matson
when I hit "tab" in many modes it does correct indenting - is there a command for re-indenting the whole buffer from the beginning?
I tried a help on keystroke, but it doesn't register tab
jlf
Matson: C-x h C-M-\
here's a very early (1991) mention by ted stockwell of a kitchen sink icon on comp.human-factors but no link to emacs that i could find: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.human-factors/browse_thread/thread/c52b43222d4dd9a8/5e5d271f81ca1ddc
Eraldo
how can I kill a read-only server in gnus? {nntp:news.gnus.org} (opened)
I think I got it
I had it in the config that is why
Matson
jif C-x h sets my mark
jlf
,dk C-x h
fsbot
mark-whole-buffer is an interactive compiled Lisp function in
`simple.el'.
It is bound to C-x h, <menu-bar> <edit> <mark-whole-buffer>.
(mark-whole-buffer)
Put point at beginning and mark at end of buffer.
You probably should not use this function in Lisp programs; ..[Type ,more]
jlf
,df C-M-\\
fsbot
Oh sh**! End of file during parsing
jlf
,df C-M-\
fsbot
ERROR: Symbol's function definition is void: C-M-\
jlf
meh
,df indent-region
fsbot
indent-region is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `indent.el'.
It is bound to C-M-\.
(indent-region START END &optional COLUMN)
Indent each nonblank line in the region.
A numeric prefix argument specifies a column: indent each line to that column. ..[Type ,more]
Matson
thank you - indent-region is it!
jlf
np
Matson
works great!
malsyned
Is there a way for a mode to cause the isearch minibuffer to inherit some keybindings?
sword
Inherit what bindings?
malsyned
sword, Inherit might not be the best term. I have written a minor mode that binds the dash key to a function which inserts - or _ depending on the preceding character, and I'd like isearches on buffers using that mode to also have that binding.
Would it be an OK thing to do to make minibuffer-setup-hook buffer-local and add my minor mode to it?
blackdog
is there a way to get emacs to only ask about saving files if diff-buffer-with-file shows a difference?
(or is this a terrible idea?)
Eraldo
how can I download emacspeak from the (ubuntu) repository without installing emacs22 aswell? (running emacs-snapshot)
malsyned
blackdog, I personally can't think of any reason why it's a bad idea, unless diff-buffer-with-file cares about things like narrowing which would result in false-positives.
Eraldo, you're probably better off asking in an Ubuntu or Debian channel.
Eraldo
malsyned: I guess you are right
malsyned
Well, minibuffer-setup-hook doesn't work the way I hoped it would.
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