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e1f
"Dawkins and Hitchens are planning on getting the Pope arrested when he visits England in September"
_pj
btw, I use emacs 22.3.1 on Vista, the bug also occurs when I ignore my .emacs
are there others that use emacs on windows for python?
in here, I mean..
woodworks
_pj: i think windows is a cuss word in here....
_pj
I wouldn't be surprised
bremner
no, aquamacs is a cussword. windows is just a bit distasteful :)
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
We should conduct this channel in accordance with Robert's Rules.
jordanb
I second that.
woodworks
hehe, exactly
         

jordanb
woodworks: You don't have the floor.
woodworks
i yield to the honorable jordanb
Eraldo
in what range does gnus score move? -9999 till 9999 ?
jordanb
Let's make an IPC system based on Robert's Rules.
shabble
cursor-motion to adjourn!
stepnem
Eraldo: be sure to read the Gnus manual, it's a delight
woodworks
_pj if you have a question go ahead and ask, they're not that viscious, yet
legumbre
Let's increase gnus score dynamic range.
sybariten
crap, i wish i understood why the google notebook emacs extension doesnt work
_pj
the question is this: does anyone have a solution to python hanging when loading up the Tkinter module and using a function from it in a python process in emacs on windows?
jordanb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGIn9bpALo
woodworks
hrmmnn, _pj that might be better asked in #python since it seems to deal more with python behavior than emacs
_pj
well, it only happens when controlling the interpreter from emacs
in cmd.exe everything runs fine
but i'll have a look at #python
jordanb
That's not a python question, that's a ...
...
....
I don't know what kind of question that is.
woodworks
(Action) waiting....
jordanb
_pj: Maybe it's because of your friends?
bremner
,...
fsbot
[In the distance, you hear a dog bark]
rudybot
Woof.
woodworks
quote from #lisp: (when (< pos buf-size)) ? That's what I thought but my handler hangs when trying to read hunchentoot's raw-post-data
huchentoot?
you guys warned me about that channel
         

johnw
it's a web server in Lisp
woodworks
oh well, guess it makes more sense then
johnw
i've actually blogged about it: http://www.newartisans.com/2007/11/a-quick-hunchentoot-primer.html
francogrex
Hi how can one bring forth a buffer to the active screen just using command line?
sav
command line?
francogrex
yeah, I don't have a mouse; no cursor
stepnem
C-x b
francogrex
stepnem: cool yes works fine
legumbre
cool story bro
francogrex
stepnem: that brings whatever I need into the active window
sav
johnw: I bet you have Ledger integrated with org-mode. do you? I'd love to have that.
johnw
no
stepnem
francogrex: it's magic
johnw
i'm still thinking on that
sav
oh! I see.
francogrex
is there also a way to get me switch to another window (wehn the screen is split using cx-c2 for example)
stepnem
C-x o
_pj
perhaps C-h ? is useful for francogrex
stepnem
or even C-h t
francogrex
hah, yes needs the help files
I'm happy because I installed a very small linux dist on a very old pc and I installed emacs on it
_pj
johnw, do you use emacs for python code?
johnw
_pj: absolutely
to do otherwise would be uncivilized
_pj
but not on windows I guess
johnw
why not?
_pj
I mean, you don't use it on windows
do you?
johnw
of course I do
_pj
ok, great
stepnem
hahaha
_pj
so when you import the Tkinter module, run, say, Tkinter._test(), and then run '1+2', does you python process hang?
could you try that, johnw?
johnw
i could not, sorry
legumbre
sav: I've been using org-babel to produce ledger reports. I don't know what kind of org/ledger integration you're thinking about; but maybe that's one way.
johnw
i'm allergic to Tk
_pj
why?
fsbot
Why not?
johnw
legumbre: that is a great way; I was thinking about data integration
_pj: because Tcl sucks so bad my face gets stuck to my screen
_pj
heh, ok, what do you use instead?
johnw
i'm not a GUI guy
_pj
ok
legumbre
johnw: care to elaborate on "data integration"?
_pj
so, could you then pretend you are for a second, try what I described, and tell me what happens?
johnw
legumbre: like, if you're on a trip you could accumulate your expense into an Org-table, and then either easily export that to your Ledger file later, or maybe even have Ledger read such data directly
_pj: sorry, I'm busy with other things
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I blame pedestrians
_pj
ok
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'LL SVN YOU.
johnw
i have to go wash my fingers after even typing the word Tcl
legumbre
johnw: ah yes, that'd be awesome
shabble
I was forced to write some tcl once
I'm not sure I've ever recovered
legumbre
johnw: do you use mobileorg?
johnw
legumbre: absolutely
please don't tell me it runs on Tcl
what's funny about Tcl is how one of its proponents displayed three scripts in Python, Perl and Tcl. He claimed the Tcl one was so obvious it didn't even need comments, and yet it was the only implementation of the three that I couldn't even understand
legumbre
johnw: I haven't tried it yet. Something like mobileorg plus what you just described would be pure awesome.
sav: this is the kind of stuff I've been mucking around with org-babel/ledger: http://legumbre.no-ip.org/mail/2010-04-11-184509_1280x800_scrot.png
johnw
ooh, very nice
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Lets get 210 million dollars in severance pay.
bozhidar
,praise
fsbot
24:36 As for the unbelievers, their works are like a mirage in a
desert. The thirsty traveler thinks it is water, but when he comes
near he finds that it is nothing. He finds EMACS there, who pays him
back in full. Swift is EMACS's reckoning.
sav
legumbre: woah, very very nice.
I didn't know about org-babel; I'll try to adopt it. really nice use case
johnw
legumbre: i should do something similar to gather together all the standard reports I typically need to make at tax time, and put them under my Do Taxes recurring todo
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's make an expert system.
sav
very nice.
Guthur
I am using this small script http://paste.lisp.org/display/97612#1
How can I make it so the buffer can be closed with 'q'
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's drink like Phil Katz.
_pj
what about wxPython vs. Tk?
wait
this is the wrong channel for that questino
question
Guthur
ya this is the bot abuse channel
quotemstr
,smite
fsbot
I think I'll do BOTH if I can get RESIDUALS!!
jordanb
rudybot: quot
rudybot
jordanb: eh? Try "rudybot: help".
jordanb
,yow
fsbot
..Are we having FUN yet...?
maden
shu the fu*k up with the bot jordanb
jordanb
,flame maden
fsbot
maden: i hope your meta-key breaks and your escape-key stops escaping
maden
kids on these days..
rudybot
maden: Debemos tener un sistema GNU Genuino Ventaja que desactiva su computadora cuando un servidor de la FSF baja.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'll transform you.
danklesman
Where is a good tutorial for elisp?
offby1
danklesman: the Emacs Lisp Reference manual comes with emacs.
You can read it by typing C-h i d m elisp RET
actually the Emacs Lisp Intro is more like a tutorial.
You can read it by typing C-h i d m eintr RET
er,
You can read it by typing C-h i d m Emacs Lisp Intro RET
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's write bad check.
jordanb
Let's flood the channel.
rudybot
fsbot: invalid translation language pair
offby1
*snicker*
rudybot
fsbot: Ðà×àÕ æèÙÛÙÝ éâÕß çÙå ÛÜ ÔÙÕÝ.
fsbot: invalid translation language pair
offby1
fsbot: quit tantalizing the bot!
fsbot
fsbot, with botheart broken into a thousand pieces, has left: "Goodbye"
offby1
fsbot: quit tantalizing the bot!
fsbot
fsbot, with botheart broken into a thousand pieces, has left: "Goodbye"
dshep
this might be good too http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2008/01/emergency-elisp.html
offby1
*whew*
(Action) waits for jordanb to vent about yegge
dshep
(Action) ducks
jordanb
Why? I ran him off.
He went running back to his mommy crying the whole way.
bozhidar
night, mates
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's write a parser for emacs font locking.
jordanb
heh
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's all write mouser hate mail for not stocking the electronics that I need.
fsbot: ‘Â byte-compile.
danklesman
thanks offby1
rudybot
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Mimi lawama pixies
Mimi lawama herons.
offby1
(Action) suspects "Mimi lawama" means "I blame"
rudybot
I'll likn d. yako
danklesman
whats with the bot?
maden
some idiot is abusing it. thats whats up with it.
passwordoff
What means TRAMP file name?
sav
passwordoff: Tramp means 'Transparent Remote Access, Multi-Proto', you should try C-hi m tramp.
passwordoff
How to use default tramp method?
sav
there's no default afaic. try this for example: C-xf /ssh://user@host/.
passwordoff
It's very annoying to type so much chars. For example, I have insert in .emacs (setq tramp-default-method "\\`localhost\\'" "\\`root\\'" "sudo"). And how to use this default method?
sav
does emacs profiling tells me which elisp is consuming cpu? I guess so, but I'd like to be sure before going for it.
legumbre
http://multisocialmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ttsgfeatured.jpg
sav
wth
passwordoff
gsom
legumbre
is that _the_ penguin?
e1f
"NPR listeners, after all, are two times more likely than the average U.S. citizen to be Mac users"
legumbre
do #emacs! do #emacs!
LegendaryPenguin
me?
e1f
(Action) looks smugly at the average u.s. citizens
LegendaryPenguin
i will grace you all with my legendary presence
e1f
http://www.npr.org/blogs/gofigure/2010/03/25/125169191/npr-listeners-react-to-the-ipad
LegendaryPenguin
lol ipad
apple fans will buy anything with an apple on it
regardless of how useless it is
e1f
no, there were a few "failures"
LegendaryPenguin
i think the real question here is why doesn't emacs load my color theme file
it says "cannot open load file"
white background, that is rough
e1f
,colortheme
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