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quotemstr
You'd think more than one person would be dispatched to inject something that can destroy a whole star.
JeffVC`
Eraldo: I don't think I've encountered a *Server* buffer before. Is hitting "q" not doing it?
Eraldo
JeffVC`: oh sorry should have made that more clear... with closing I meant so that it says "{nnfolder:archive} (closed)"
I pressed enter on it once and it now shows "{nnfolder:archive} (opened)"
how can I get it back to closed?
JeffVC`
Eraldo: ah, gotcha. No idea.
rgr
C
C-h b, C-s close
although its something I have never needed.
Eraldo: ^^^^^
Lenbok
Hey all - if I split horizontally with C-x 3, is there a way to scroll both visible buffers at the same time (kind of like less-ing through sdiff output)
bob2
,,synchronized scrolling
fsbot
synchronizedscrolling is [0] m-x scroll-all-mode
[1] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MasterMode,
[2] See also FollowMode
quotemstr
(Action) wonders whether anyone actually uses the two-column stuff.
         

Lenbok
bob2: Thanks for the pointer. I just tried scroll-all-mode and it doesn't seem to work though :-(
bob2: Ok - seems to work with keyboard scrolling, but not with mouse wheel.
Mosu
Lenbok: it only works with a few cursor movement keys, but also not with things like incremental search or anything else that moves point, e.g. goto-line
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'LL META YOU!
Lenbok
Mosu: OK. It's a bit unwieldy. Ideally I would like to just hold down a modifier when mouse-wheeling to scroll all visible buffers and without modifier to scroll just the current buffer (to allow minor re-alignment).
schemer999
yikes. visual beep in emacs 23.1 is a black square?!?
any way to change it?
tensorpudding
got a tramp problem...
enthymeme
indeed I do, how'd you know?
tensorpudding
heh, what's your tramp problem
mine is "selecting deleted buffer"
enthymeme
mine was not being able to write files to a remote machine
quotemstr
I have a tramp problem too. I start editing a file on a server, and the next thing I know, I'm in Acapulco, I have a huge headache, and I'm banned from #emacs.
:-)
schemer999: Let me guess: Darwin?
schemer999
quotemstr: yes
quotemstr
schemer999: Someone was here a few weeks ago with a patch. I think it might be applied to trunk now.
schemer999
built from scratch.
ah.
emacs source is maintained at savannah, right?
quotemstr
Yes, in bzr.
schemer999
but i can pull through git, here (http://savannah.gnu.org/git/?group=emacs) to get latest?
quotemstr
I don't know how often the git mirror is updated.
tensorpudding
according to the savannah page for emacs, the cvs and git repos are not up to date
schemer999
ah, ok.
tensorpudding: oops. didn't see that, despite the bold.
wowza. this pull of emacs is taking a while.
offby1
schemer999: I hope you're not using bzr
         

schemer999
offby1: arg. yes.
is there somewhere else that has the current trunk version?
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/ ?
jordanb
I know I am.
offby1
schemer999: git://repo.or.cz/emacs.git
schemer999
how else can i get latest?
offby1
bzr is too slow to use. It's a shame the Emacs Gods chose it.
schemer999
um. i'd prefer a trusted source ...
offby1
it's trusted by me
schemer999
and who are you? :)
jordanb
offby1: The alternative was arch.
offby1
schemer999: I'm me.
schemer999
heh. quite.
offby1
schemer999: seriously, if you insist that it's "trusted", bzr is your only option.
alex4nder
re..
schemer999
ok. biting the bullet then.
offby1
schemer999: I seem to recall that the recommendation was that you first rsync a tarball, unpack it, and then do "bzr pull" or something on it, to save time (since bzr is such a slow piece of ****)
jordanb
Taylor Swift == vapid blond bi**h + autotune.
offby1
there's a web page titled something like "Emacs for bzr devs", which is (at least partly) written by Karl Fogel, so I expect it to be worthwhile
schemer999
offby1: wow. that is shameful.
offby1
schemer999: sure it
schemer999: sure is
schemer999: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BzrForEmacsDevs
schemer999
thanks.
i'm at that stage in a project where it becomes more fun to tweak emacs than do real work.
offby1
schemer999: I think I gave you outdated information; I don't see anything on that wiki page about first rsyncing a tarball
but it's still absurdly slow
schemer999
no worries. i'm just using bzr. maybe tomorrow i can kill that black box.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's be no Jack Kennedy.
schemer999
(on visual bell).
mathrick
bpalmer: what's the status of xemacs? Last I see is 21.4, which has been released in, uhh, 2001?
offby1
(Action) laughs cruelly
schemer999
heh
offby1
mathrick: the impression I get from xemacs.org is that it's more like two years old
mathrick
I'm basing it on http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.5.html
which is dated to 2001
oh, wait, that's a wrong link I followed
it's not easy to navigate
right, there's http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.22.html
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
I'LL REFERENCE YOU TO THE ANODE IN A MINUTE!
quotemstr
Let's compute Graham's Number.
offby1
heh: "Indeed, the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number, assuming that each digit occupies at least one Planck volume."
My eyes! The exponents, they do nothing!
jordanb
"Grahams number is the size of Paul Grahams ego".
quotemstr
"Even n, the mere number of towers in this formula for g1, is far greater than the number of Planck volumes (roughly 10^185 of them) into which one can imagine subdividing the observable universe. And after this first term, there still remain another 63 terms in the rapidly growing g sequence before Graham's number G = g64 is reached."
jordanb
Think-geek should sell n-dimensional hypercubes.
THat's something I'd buy.
quotemstr
I want a Klein Bottle.
jordanb
Plush n-dimensional hypercubes.
quotemstr: I think you can get those at your local 'medical marajuana' store.
Although you have to use it for a while before it starts to look right.
quotemstr
ggole
jordanb
How do you clean that thing?
ggole
No idea
quotemstr
Slowly.
ggole
jordanb
So is there a 'power tower' complexity class?
ggole
You mean like O(2^n)?
jordanb
No, I mean one that has to be defined using knuth's up arrows.
On above exponential notation.
One
ggole
No idea
jordanb
Like, the problem of determining what the "nothing" is that has a woman so pissed off.
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's die from exhaustive game playing in a korean internet cafe?
quotemstr
Heh, http://www.theonion.com/articles/city-of-chicago-to-modernize-outdated-graft-progra,17140/
jordanb
Haha
jlf`
the onion is slipping
talk about low hanging fruit
jordanb
This is hilarious.
William Caldwell, a corruption efficiency consultant hired by the city, believes Chicago could be mismanaging itself far more effectively. He recommends instituting a diversified racketeering strategy with more clearly defined goals, and implementing new procedures to oversee the way money is siphoned from desperately underfunded schools.
spcshpopr8r
I know I've read this somewheres (but figured it couldn't hurt to ask:), how can I tell what function is bound to a keyboard shortcut?
shabble
C-h k
spcshpopr8r
shabble: thanks....but...er...I'm in viper and it's doing something silly to C-h
jordanb
Let's define our support to be [-,).
shabble
spcshpopr8r: M-x describe-key ?
danklesman
some of the menus in gtk emacs for different modes dont work, anyone know why?
spcshpopr8r
shabble: ooh cool...thanks
shabble
,menufix
fsbot
event security kilderkin industrial espionage csim csystems AMW Syria
legumbre
,menuproblem
fsbot
The LOGARITHM of an ISOSCELES TRIANGLE is TUESDAY WELD!!
jordanb
I hate it how mismatched parentheses doen't bother mathematicians.
legumbre
,yow
fsbot
There's a SALE on STRETCH SOCKS down at the "7-11"!!
danklesman
x_x
legumbre
,menu-problem
fsbot
menu-problem is [0] empty menus under X11? export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 before you launch emacs
[1] in fact, you can M-: (setenv "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS" "1") RET to fix all subsequently created frames, no need to restart emacs
quotemstr
jordanb: How would you spell it?
ggole
When do mathematicians mismatch parens?
Oh, intervals
nvm
danklesman
thanks
jordanb
I love it how all the nerd politics blogs obsess with the same horse race that the cable news channels cover.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ <-- Case in point
underdev_
hi. when i have more then 2 windows open, is there some way that i can target which window C-x o targets?
jordanb
underdev_
ultimately i would love to make some mappings to jump to repl, jump to erc, jump to w3m, etc
nze
i added
(eval-after-load 'tramp '(setq tramp-completion-function-alist-ssh (cons '(tramp-parse-hosts "/etc/hosts") tramp-completion-function-alist-ssh)))
to my .emacs, but tramp still does not use hostname completion. what's wrong?
jlf`
underdev_: ,,windmove
fsbot
windmove is [0] a package that makes switching windows easy; just use shift and a direction key to switch to another window
[1] activated via (windmove-default-keybindings),
[2] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WindowNavigation,
[3] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WindMove
underdev_
jlf, nice. thanks!
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's have a penny stock spam.
jlf`
underdev_: also check out ,,slime-selector if you're using slime
fsbot
jlf`
,slime-selector is http://common-lisp.net/project/slime/doc/html/slime_002dselector.html
underdev_
jlf, i am. awesome
fsbot
created.
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's sue youtube.
spcshpopr8r
hrmm...M-x describe key tells me about C-u (universal-argument), but that's not what's actually happening...I know it's (my beloved) viper that's making it bounce up the page a little and that seems to be getting in the way of what I'm trying to do with org-babel (C-u C-c C-c is supposed to run some code)...ideas?
jlf`
spcshpopr8r: read the doc for C-c C-c and see what it says about "with a prefix argument, ..."
spcshpopr8r
jlf`: thanks
(Action) begins reading
jlf`
np
rgr
viper-mode would be like asking for a spag bol in a curry house. It just doesnt seem right.
spcshpopr8r
rgr: I know...call it a guilty pleasure
rgr
,viper-mode
fsbot
ViperMode -- at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ViperMode
underdev_
jlf`: looks like it was already turned on somewhere in ESK. thanks for the help!
jlf`
you bet
jordanb
rudybot: quote
rudybot
Let's put a giant, burning, lower-case t in their yard.
jordanb
http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Selling-Mustache-Trimmers-Online/dp/B000O0F94I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269819215&sr=1-1
quotemstr
From the authors of " How To Sell Gold Coins Online With Absolutely No Inventory" and " Dielectric Units Internet Business Building Bootcamp"!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_1?_encoding=UTF8&sort=relevancerank&search-alias=books&field-author=Jassen%20Bowman%20and%20James%20Orr
jordanb
I love how specific he is.
The Techie Stuff: Setting Up Your Effective Farming Manuals Online Storefront
Unraveling The Inner Game To Energy Efficient Light Bulbs Sales Success Online
underdev_
prolific
quotemstr
His blog is called "Six Figure Results".
God, I hate marketing types.
jordanb
Emacs needs a marketing consultant.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/universal-slashes-cd-prices,17148/
"I think a more realistic way for Universal to increase CD sales would be to develop some kind of device that erases the memories of everybody on earth so that no one realizes the Internet still exists."
quotemstr
Heh.
offby1
or even, so that they forget that they bought that Jewel CD, and thus buy another
and another
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