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,elpa
fsbot
elpa is, like, [0] the Emacs Lisp Package Archive, an apt-like utility for elisp <http://tromey.com/elpa/index.html>
[1] maintained by tromey,
[2] at http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ELPA,
[3] promoted in this essay: http://dto.github.com/notebook/blog-2008-01-14-1205.html
lamdk
hmm is it possible to enter in a Ctrl-g? like i want to send ^G, not run keyboard-quit
(i wanna send a beep in a telnet sesion)
lelf
C-q C-g
ams
or
(emacs) Inserting Text
lamdk
thx thx
shabble
M-: (beep) ?
rryouumaa
ok, i have tried this: (setq backup-directory-alist `(("." . ,my-backup-directory))) -- but it just isn't saving backups to there. i have all the other variables set correctly afaict (make-backup-files, version-control, etc.). what might be going wrong?
ams
have you evaled theexpression?
         

yonkeltron
is there a good way to create a TAGS from within emacs?
ams
M-! etags ...
yonkeltron
hehe
ams
have a cookie
e1f
check the lisp paste website i posted some code that automatically generates tags files
someone asks every three months
emacs should auto re-generate tags files if a tag can't be found
and only then complain
that that would be too useful
bpalmer
e1f: that'd just encourage people to use tags
e1f
so it's prefcerable if everyone on earth has a copy of 5 lines of lisp code repeated in their .emacs
Ober2
wow that default beep on mac is a major pita
e1f
no wonder our disks are filling up
bpalmer
e1f: we've got to leave something for the software archeologists.
e1f
(Action) uses 'tink'
system prefs > sound
shabble
I found a wild eep!
e1f: snippet on the wiki or paste.lisp.org?
e1f
lisp.org
jlf
let's generate our tags with cans of spray paint
bpalmer
who tags the taggers?
Guest666
hi!
legumbre
,fortune
fsbot
Learn to pause -- or nothing worthwhile can catch up to you.
bo0ts__
I was looking into a way to hook erchighlighting with random functions? Has anybody tried that and succeeded?
Just setting URGENT for the window would be sufficient for now^^
jordanb
http://media.theonion.com/audio/articles/article/17048/306_Increased_Fossil_Production_W.mp3
Let's have a pity party.
I think Biden got the money quote on the healthcare reform.
         

quotemstr
Haha.
jordanb
Man. At what point do the republicans become the monster raving loony party?
Now they're suing to try to see if Roberts and friends will overturn it.
twb
Han: ping.
bob2
er, I think that was about 1997
twb
Han: can you push the patch for http://bugs.debian.org/573447 (on that page) into the OpenBSD mg repo?
fledermaus
jordanb: you see there's good democracy and bad democracy.
jordanb
bob2: 1995 I guess. When they shut down the government because Gingrich had to sit at the back of Air Force One.
fledermaus
when the system doesn't operate in favour of the bloated corporate kleptocrats, it's clearly broken and needs fixing
quotemstr
jordanb: "become"?
fledermaus
also, that's quite insulting to the MRLP
unless the republicans suddenly got a lot better?
quotemstr
I think the number of people with thick southern accents in government is a good proxy for the idiocy of that government.
fledermaus
the foghorn leghorn party.
jordanb
quotemstr: So you think Russia's got a swell government? :P
cluck
bo0ts__: if you want to be warned when your nick is mentioned there was a snippet in the wiki that used dbus to pop up a balloon, iirc
quotemstr
jordanb: A lack of southern accents is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for good government. :-)
fledermaus
maybe he has a southern _russian_ accent.
to paraphrase: "lots of countries have a south."
jordanb
Sothern Russia sure isn't very *far* south.
fledermaus
but northern russia is quite far north.
so I guess it balances out.
bo0ts__
cluck: That should be a could pointer. Essentially I just need to hook into that function somehow.
jordanb
http://www.politico.com/wuerker/
cluck
bo0ts__: look for a real hook
fledermaus
cluck: funny you shoul dmention notification daemon, I've just written a utility library to poke it from inside elim/garak
bo0ts__: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/elim.git/tree/elisp?h=notifications
dbus-util.el and notify.el are what you can borrow for that
bo0ts__
fledermaus: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcPageMe seems what I'm looking for. Thanks anyway.
quotemstr
I seem to have started an lwn.net flamewar over whether Shakespeare wrote his own plays.
jordanb
http://www.businessinsider.com/just-changing-one-word-in-an-amendment-could-change-everything-in-the-volcker-rule-2010-3
I can't believe that that's contentious.
I mean, in re quotemstr.
Britian is still a class-based society.
The upper class have a chip on their shoulders.
The fanatics who are attacking you probably fancy themselves from the upper class.
,g upper class twit python
fsbot
[google] http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dk5ba1OKY7Xc
http://www.jumpstation.ca/recroom/comedy/python/twit.html
jms
Hi all! I'm testing ERC!
twb
quotemstr: OBVIOUSLY they were all ghost-written
quotemstr
Facetious?
twb
Of course
ded
On ubuntu, how do I install C source code so that C-h f will jump to C code when necessary?
s/jump/link/
twb
ded: just put it somewhere, then give it the path when it asks
ded
Is there an ubuntu/debian package, to go with emacs-snapshot?
hicx174
,--script
fsbot
[Too many DB matches] [google] http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/Matthias
http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/
hicx174
,-e
fsbot
[Too many DB matches] [google] http://www.emacswiki.org/alex/meme.html
http://www.emacswiki.org/OLD
hicx174
-.-
Piratero
Hello #emacs!
legumbre
(Action) waves
fledermaus
,dv find-function-C-source-directory
fsbot
Directory where the C source files of Emacs can be found.
If nil, do not try to find the source code of functions and variables
defined in C.
Defined in `/usr/share/emacs/23.1/lisp/emacs-lisp/find-func.elc'.
jordanb
Burma would make a good locale for a proxy war with China.
quotemstr
ded
I'm using text properties to display an image. I'm trying to get the image to update when the underlying file changes. It sometimes does, but often not until I run the cursor over it or some similar action. I've tried (image-refresh image) (redisplay) (redraw-frame) (redraw-display). Any advice?
fledermaus
,df clear-image-cache
fsbot
clear-image-cache is a built-in function in `C source code'.
(clear-image-cache &optional FILTER)
Clear the image cache.
FILTER nil or a frame means clear all images in the selected frame.
FILTER t means clear the image caches of all frames. ..[Type ,more]
fledermaus
,more
fsbot
Anything else, means only clear those images which refer to FILTER,
which is then usually a filename.
fledermaus
maybe
chrisb
good place to buy AC adapters mail order?
us
underdev
Hi, i'm trying something out, and in the directions i am told to "set the inferior-lisp-program variable to script/swank"
ded
fledermaus, thanks. It seems that clear-image-cache was all that was needed. No need for any of the others.
underdev
assuming that my working directory contains script/swank, can someone translate this into elisp?
or tell me how to set this from the minibuffer or whatever?
twb
underdev: M-x customize option
ded
hmm, actually clear-image-cache has some undesirable effects. It's causing other images on the screen to change (temporarily) to the newly created image. And it segfaulted emacs. (If I find a repeatable bug I'll report it)
e1f
Ann Coulter's speech in Ottawa cancelled
jordanb
Will they be giving you a refund?
Or will they just give you credit at the Tea Party Emporium?
e1f
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/783830--ann-coulter-speech-cancelled-after-thousands-protest
i always think of coulottes when i see her name
jordanb
like it how the Tea Party Emporium has registered the trademark "TEA BAGĀ®".
Worn not just for its beauty, this TEA BAGĀ® identifies your support for conservative/libertarian beliefs which our country is in such dire need.
fledermaus
bunch of tea baggers.
anyway, time to sleep.
e1f
a different take http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ann-coulters-speech-in-ottawa-cancelled/article1509793/#article
rryouumaa
teabag is a verb that means something very different
jordanb
I bet the whole tea bag thing is really being run by some gay guys with a sense of humor.
"Let's get a bunch of right-wingers to walk around wearing tea bag jewely!"
rryouumaa
anybody have a clue why backup to a directory using the simple setup works for text files and emacs lisp files -- but not org files?
e1f
"Angry people listen to the radio longer"
i wasn't aware of that
rryouumaa
i'm referring to emacs backups
jordanb
e1f: NPR makes me mad.
rryouumaa
one must infer that people like being made angry?
or something?
jordanb
Mainly the way they play the same content over andover.
rryouumaa
are there any leftie moral-panic-inducing radio shows?
there must be somewhere
underdev
i gotta Tea Bag (R) for 'em
jordanb
Haha, the Freedom Megaphone and Freedom Cooler are sold out.
rryouumaa
any answers welcome re org and backup files
underdev
oh emacs? is that what this channel is for?
rryouumaa: but as for us lefties, we have comedy central for panicing purposes.
fledermaus
rryouumaa: doesn't work in what way?
rryouumaa
well, backup files are not created in org files
when i save
fledermaus
rryouumaa: goingto sleep now, but I suggest you look at whatever code org uses to save files
rryouumaa
ok, this is freaking weird. backup-inhibited is t in some files.
fledermaus
or ping me tomorrow if no-one here has solved it by then.
rryouumaa
(buffers i mean) and not others...
fledermaus: thanks
good night
fledermaus
rryouumaa: check the org mode code, it's probably setting it.
rryouumaa
i checked. i don't think it is.
i found that it is t in some elisp buffers and not others
with no apparent reason
twb
,-q
fsbot
I heard -q is if you start emacs with "emacs -q" and the problem goes away, it's YOUR FAULT; check your .emacs. If "emacs -q" has problems and "emacs -Q" does not, it's caused by your distro or local admin.
rryouumaa
i doubt -q would display the behavior
but i can try
it has to be some package or something
twb
,bisect
fsbot
bisect is [0] To find a problematic form in your .emacs: comment out half, and try to reproduce the problem. You should now know which half causes the problem. Recurse as necessary.
[1] Don't use this to find the cause of a lisp error; instead start emacs with --debug-init., ..[Type ,more]
underdev
i think someone should tell Glen Beck that wearing a pink triangle is a symbol of individuality and belief in personal freedom
twb
underdev: it's a symbol of individuality for everyone to wear a designated symbol?
quotemstr
Someone should tell Glenn Beck that wearing a rainbow scarf is how he can express his patriotism.
Wow...
Representative Slaughter's children get *death threats*.
underdev
red white and blue, and green representing a vibrant economy and yellow to represent the dependable gold standard...
quotemstr
She's in the next district over from mine.
underdev
they weren't death threats, they were just invitations to death panels
twb
"Representative Slaughter"?
What is this, some scifi B-movie?
underdev
Rep Slaughter is Dick Army's cousin
quotemstr
twb: Be glad we don't have a Ming the Merciless.
Oh, wait: that was Cheney, except more stylish.
underdev
The plan with tea bagging finally worked; now to figure out how to get the Conservative Right to co-opt the term "Dirty Sanchez"...
quotemstr
" Earlier this evening I went to the democratic underground website to read thier sh*t. No doubt they're all coming here to read this website. They're all whining about bricks...... Just wait until it turns to bullets."
HandyGandy
Running KDE4.4 when I create frame from inside linux I screw up my colors. How do I fix it?
quotemstr
,doesntwork
fsbot
we can help you with your problem better if your error description is more informative than "it doesn't work"
underdev
quotemstr: time to break out that confederate flag. Affordable Health Care? "RALLY 'ROUND THE FAMILY, WITH A POCKET FULL OF SHELLS!!!!"
HandyGandy
?
quotemstr
underdev: Rage Against the Machine is too bourgeois for teabaggers.
HandyGandy: How did it "screw up"?
HandyGandy: In general, phrase question as 1) I did X, 2) I expected Y to happen, 3) Z happened instead, 4) how can I make Y happen?
HandyGandy
When I open a new frame, my foreground color is different, my background color is different, and the syntax colors are all different.
quotemstr
How did you set the colors in the first place?
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